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Talk About All Things EU/Legends

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Legends' started by Kylo Solo, Jan 14, 2017.

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    The Darth Bane trilogy is gold.
     
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    I like the books so far, I'm on book two
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    I'm reading Dawn of the Jedi right now and have Lost Tribe of the Sith on Deck. I loved The Han Solo Trilogy. Anything with the Old Republic is interesting. The original Thrawn Trilogy is good too
     
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    Dawn of the Jedi had a lot of potential, but the book just didn't grab me. I finished it, but it took me a while to get through it (a couple weeks vs my usual reading time of a few days), and the story didn't stick with me very long after. I liked the overall concept, but for me the execution fell flat. I did really enjoy the comic series, however. And I liked it enough to give a second book entry a chance, but this book was released just prior to the LFL sale to Disney and any sequels were put on hold indefinitely. I can't wait to get more stories in this era though. But I have a sneaking suspicion that we won't get much on the Old Republic or the Dawn eras until after Episode IX.
     
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    What does everyone think of The New Jedi Order?
     
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    After reading the Tales Of The Bounty Hunters anthology earlier in the year I decided to check out Tales From Mos Eisley Cantina. I'm enjoying it so far although I'm only halfway through the second story. The first story, "We Don't Do Weddings: The Band's Tale" was fun although it seemed very similar to a Stephen King short story called "The Wedding Gig".
     
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    I wonder what the history of Moraband will be like in canon. Will there be a Sith species?
     
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    I'm trying to remember a book that I read when I was young, I've tried Google but I apparently haven't come up with the right combination of keywords. I read it in the late 80's or early 90's but I don't know when it was published. Given the settings/characters it had to have been after TESB and most likely after RotJ. I remember very little but it had something to do with a Hutt who had taken over Cloud City after Lando's evacuation. I remember being excited because it had Cloud City in it but not liking the book much. I think it was probably a kid's book because I think it was illustrated. Or at least had a few, but I may be mixing it up with somethin else.

    Edit: Nevermind, I think I found it. Pretty sure it's "Zorba The Hutt's Revenge".
     
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    A lot happened in that series. I think it ended well, though. In its course, it had its ups and downs. The characters who died, I think were given proper sendoffs, as difficult as some of them were to accept, we saw and experienced how they affected the other characters in meaningful ways. Seeing how the GFFA came together to fight off an entire other galaxy's worth of invaders, and how the Jedi learned to defeat them in combat, it was a generally compelling story. Also, with how the series tied in to the previous novels as well as the novels that followed, I found it interesting and on the whole, worth the read.
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    I love the "Tales" books. They're great. Tales from the New Republic is also definitely worth picking up. As are Tales from Jabba's Palace and Tales from the Empire.
     
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    I'm re-reading "The Han Solo Adventures" trilogy for the first time since I was a kid, it's been 20 years or more and I don't remember a thing about them so it's basically like reading them for the first time.
     
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    I liked it. My first foray into the now-Legends material was Dark Nest III: The Swarm War (around the time Episode III was released) and I was hooked from there. After reading the Dark Next trilogy I saw The New Jedi Order series as something of a prequel. Not that I have no other ideas about how things could have gone, but everything from Vector Prime to Invincible is largely golden to me and Fate of the Jedi has some great aspects to it.
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    Hands down for me Darth Plagueis is the best EU/Legends novel ever. It is a travesty that it has been rendered "non-canon". Little of the canon EU can hold a candle to the Legends material. Some of it is good, but not all of it.

    That said Darth Plagueis fits Episodes I-VI so perfectly while enlightening us on a great many mysteries. I feel like TPTB would do the entire saga a great service by making a movie verbatim from the novel.
     
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    I'm starting to read the New Jedi Order next week, and I can't wait!

    I really like some of the old EU stuff, and think LFL made a HUGE mistaken in decannonizing it and then not allowing any new material to be published under the "legends" banner. Makes no sense to me. But oh well, what do I know?

    As for the Darth Plageius novel, it is great isn't it??? I love that book big time. It's certainly way better than the Aftermath trilogy.
     
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    I personally liked the vong series, legacy of the force and fate of the Jedi.
    I’m currently re-reading the vong series. I’m reading the book “Star by Star”.
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    I enjoyed the darth bane books. I think they’re worth picking up. I’ll re-read them when I start to re-read the books starting at dawn of the Jedi again. I won’t read “red harvest” again though.
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    I read the bane series and the old republic series. Personally I enjoyed both of them.
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    I personally liked dawn of the Jedi. I think the plan was to continue the story. But it got canceled because it was around the time when Disney purchased LFL. I remember doing some research on the continuation and there was a second book that was being written at the time. There was a title for it too.
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    I enjoyed the new Jedi order. I loved the fact it took 21 books to tell the story.
    I wasn’t a fan of the small singularities on all of the vong ships.
    I’m currently re-reading this series right now.
     
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    I'll be starting the New Jedi Order series next week (once I turn in all my papers for the semester for grad school). I am SOOOOOO looking forward to reading some fun and enjoyable books for a change. LOL
     
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    Sweet. I know some people didn’t like this series. Some people had problems with parts of it. I enjoyed most of it. There were a few things that upset me, but not nearly like tlj. There’s great continuity in my opinion.

    Sure it’s 21 books long, but it’s great to pass the time. I usually read about 75-100 pages a day while at work.

    I wish Disney would’ve started episode vii with this series.
     
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    Or at least tried to. I wouldn't blame them for not making it word for word, but yeah, using this as the initial basis would be good, at least based on what I have read so far. I'm already massively interested in these characters, and i'm only a few chapters into the book.
     
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    Agreed. Disney could’ve picked and chose what was best and what didn’t work. I never liked reading as a kid. But these books helped me to enjoy reading.
     
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    So @Darth Wardawg , now that you’ve almost finished vector prime, You’ve obviously read that chewy dies in a pretty incredible way. I was completely shocked when I read it for the first time in 2011. I remember reading about the backlash the fans gave the people in charge of deciding the outline of the things to come. The author RA Salvatore received death threats for killing chewy even though he didn’t actually make the call. He was instructed to kill him off.

    The team wanted to kill off a major character. They actually wanted to kill Luke, but GL said Luke, leia and Han could not be killed. So they decided chewy was a good choice because he didn’t speak english. They were surprised about the backlash they received.

    That’s why I was surprised that Disney killed Han and Luke. They had this information about how the fans reacted and didn’t use the information to learn from past mistakes.

    I digress, there’s a lot of stuff that happens in this somewhat short novel.

    I like how they start to write the solo kids properly and we start to see them help and grow.

    @Darth_Nobunaga i would love to converse with you about the book your on, but I don’t want to ruin the surprises @Darth Wardawg has coming his way.
     
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    I don't have any qualms discussing Vector Prime, the book is great. I tracked down a Hardcover copy the second I was done reading my digital one.

    Chewbacca's death is something that gets a lot of heat from the anti-EU crowd, but to me, it's more the impact of Chewie's death that makes it so consequential. In the ST, when a character like Han Solo dies, it doesn't leave a whole lot if impact. Only a few characters react, and it doesn't facilitate any new or interesting plot points or character development. It exists to create some kind of climax in TFA, and that's it---it has very little lasting consequences across the trilogy overall, and doesn't create much of a narrative ripple.

    Chewie's death, on the other hand, is a shot heard around the world: Everyone reacts to this death. Han is completely shaken, and crippled by emotional shellshock, to where he even directs ire and bitterness towards his own son, blaming him for Chewbacca's death. And not to spoil anything for @Darth Wardawg, but this is something the NJO series builds upon, and uses to develop both Han and Anakin substantially throughout the series. That's how you do a character death---make something out of it, create new story opportunities off of it. When you make a character's loss something of importance, give it immeasurable weight and focal attention throughout the overarching narrative, you give the reader the sense that the death wasn't just an author's whim: instead, that it had purpose, and something substantial and worthy came out of the narrative for it.

    That, to me, is why Chewbacca's loss works. It's a new avenue for storytelling that the authors economize, not some gimmicky forced death with no consequence like Han's death in TFA.
     
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    Totally agree man. 100%. The fact that NO ONE truly feels anything about Han's death is appalling when it comes to story writing. Sure, Leia feels it in the force, and there is am moment between her and Rey, but who cares? Life immediately carries on. No hug between Leia and Chewie. No funeral service. Nothing. And Leia is alright immediately after that, as if she'd not really known him for +30 years. Heck, same goes for Luke. No time to show Luke mourning but time to have the idiotic Canto Bight dead end story line????

    I like how you put it with Rey and her failure on the Finalizer... if it was this major goal of hers, she sure doesn't seem to be effected by her failure. Next scene she's hooting and hollering and whooping it up as the Falcon flies around and she blows the bad guys outta the sky. So much for emotions.

    And yeah, I had no problem with Chewbacca's death. He dies saving Anakin, his best friends kid. In an attempt to save tons of people. Sounds like a heroic death to me. Not as silly as some have made it out to be "a moon fell on Chewbacca." Give me a break.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how the Anakin and Han relationship plays out now. I'll be starting book two tomorrow.
     
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