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SPOILER TBOBF EP. 2 - The Tribes of Tatooine

Discussion in 'The Book of Boba Fett' started by Choose Light, Jan 5, 2022.

  1. Choose Light

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    Chat about Ep. 2!

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    So the lesson we are to learn today, kids, is that if a man in a mask offers you a psychedelic lizard as a "gift"...just say no! :p

    Anyway, I liked the flashback part with the Tuskens far better than the "present day" section. Hutts, meh. So last-regime. How do you get permission to kill Hutts, and who do you have to apply to? I bet that application is several pages long and has a lot of red tape to get through. :D

    I am still annoyed that Mos Espa looks so clean. Surely it wouldn't break the set budget to find some modern-day garbage and roll it around in some sand to disguise it. :rolleyes:

    So how about that cameo by Luke's old flame, Cami, in the biker bar? I wonder if that dude she was with is supposed to be Tank or Fixer?

    Anyway, I like the character aspect of the flashback portion. Although I still don't see why Boba suddenly changed from ruthless bounty hunter to nicer dude (like when he offered to free the Rodian last episode). Just going through hard things like the Sarlaac doesn't necessarily change you into a better person. However, I do see why he would rescue Fennec--that part makes sense after what he went through with the Tuskens.

    The train sequence was Star Wars-y, but it kind of seems like we've seen this a couple of times now in the new Disney stuff. And I really don't understand why there's a spice route across the Dune Sea. But whatever.

    Still not sold on this show, but I do really appreciate having new SW content to look forward to in the after-holidays letdown. :cool:
     
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    Oh my goodness, what an episode! Amazing worldbuilding with some sweet references, but also with some of the most authentic storytelling in SW.

    Seeing the Hutt twins, Black Krrsantan, the Pykes, Luke's childhood pals all made me excited, haha. The entrance of the twins on the litter with the foreboding drum sounds was badass... I also definitely hope we see more of Black K in future episodes, such an imposing figure.

    And finally, my favourite part - the Tuskens. Love all the tribal stuff, from the hints of their past and ancestors, to their traditions and rituals. But most of all, I love how the series is finally humanizing them - loved that aspect in the old Kenobi book, and I'm very happy to see it in live action.
    Also, Tatooine had water in the past :eek:

    I liked the first episode and was very hopeful for the rest, but now I'm completely hooked. Think it's my most favourite episode of all SW shows so far.
     
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    One of the best parts of the episode!

    My first watch of this episode was another "meh" for me, but less of a "meh" than last week's episode.

    The present time stuff is interesting, and Ming-Na Wen still kills every scene she's in, but this episode was half flashback, and those parts are incredibly boring to me. Boba's strength is so wildly inconsistent that it's almost laughable in some respects. He can take down a whole group of guards by himself and sets up a raid on the Pikes without too much trouble in the flashback, but he still needs bacta healing sessions - I can't figure it out! All of that said, I'm going to give the show the benefit of the doubt and theorize that it's a late-flashback injury for which Boba needs a bacta tank for, not one we're seeing now...which means more flashbacks...yay.

    The Tusken Raiders themselves aren't better because we're spending more time with them - I still don't really care for them in any particular way, but I guess it's interesting to see Boba learn and use their language. They're in a tough spot. Humanizing the raiders makes them more akin to real world tribal people and those unjustly abused, which makes things more uncomfortable as Boba encroaches on the "Mighty Whitey" archetype. But keeping them alien doesn't help them either, as they're perpetually "othered" and dehumanized despite their own culture and way of life and everything else that comes with being a people. I think I just liked how they were in Mando better; there they were mysterious without being unknown, antagonistic without always being the enemy. It was a fine line walked and walked well for the most part because we had an intermediary in Mando himself, who was outside both cultures and only trying to broker a peace, not join one way or the other. But Boba needs to learn how to be in a family group/tribe from both an outsider and insider perspective, and this is how he's learning.

    The action overall was better than the first episode, so I'm happy about that. But this show isn't really proving my first instinct about it wrong, and I'd very much like for it to do so.

    Other notes:
    Boba getting slapped by the Tusken Raider while training was the highlight of the episode.

    I'm wondering when we'll see a lightsaber show up. Every live action Star Wars product has had one, so I'm sure we'll get one here.

    Camie was a nice Cami-o!

    We have officially entered into the Pocahontas/Blue-People-Avatar/"My Study Abroad Trip Changed My Whole Life-View" stage of the flashbacks. This isn't too derogatory, as I know firsthand how living in another country can impact one's life and change one's perspectives, but it's also very cheesy to see play out.
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    THAT'S the name! I called him Tarfful at first, but I remembered him from the 2015 Soule comics! I just couldn't remember how to say his (unpronounceable) name!

    I think I'm still a fan of the portrayal in Kenobi more than the one here, but I can see the resemblance!
     
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    Spoilers

    Overall still a couple of weak points but far far better than first one.

    More character development and more fan service, Yep, I still love some well done fan service. I think still are the parts that connects with SW universe cause the show sometimes doesn't feel that way.
    I absolutely loved Camie and Fixer appearance in Tosche Station!! That was so nice. Camie bts photos have been always some of the best of the Saga. Excellent recreation of the station and great leaving from Boba in silence.
    Loved the Hutts arc development, black wookie and loved the rituals of the tree, the making of the weapon and the ropes.
    Loved the Rancor joke and how they managed the Major Hammerhead voice over his natural language.


    Still don't used to see Boba taking his helmet off so often in the middle of the street.
    The train sequence has full of action but special effects sometimes looks weak. Still don't see a train like that in the middle of Tatooine but who cares.
    Tusken kid is still annoying with his body language. Thank the maker he has only a few scenes.
    Flashbacks maybe are too long, that's why i prefer to think are thoughts and not nightmares/dreams.
    I have not been very enthusiastic with all Tusken in TBOBF, although there are a couple of cool ones. Hope it's done and see more of Boba evolution after Sarlacc in different paths.
     
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    I love how one shot of this turned into 52 minutes.
     
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    I definitely prefer to Mando portrayal. I like some mystery, dagnabbit.

    I am kind of worried about how Boba's relationship with the Tuskens is going to figure in his role as Daimyo. I don't want the Tuskens to come into Boba's powerplay... Just let them be desert Tuskens, please, please, please.
     
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    Are you saying you DON'T want a season finale where Boba is down for the count and then the Tusken Raiders invade the city on his behalf, turining the tides of battle? And that you DON'T want Season 2 to follow the sociopolitical implications of people previously seen as the enemy now having the voice of the Daimyo and effective mayor on their side, and how the people of Tattooine have to struggle with Tusken Raiders in their city?

    I'm shocked, I tell you! Positively SHOCKED! :p;)
     
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    That too. :p

    I want Tuskens to be a mysterious people we sometimes get glimpses of and quick insights into. Like Yodas. Or Din's group of sewer-dwelling Mandos. Or (*sigh*) Pykes.
     
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    I liked it. Usually I have Wednesday off, but took yesterday off due to inclimate weather. I watched a little while dressing, a little while warming the car etc. I got through it.

    I was surprised to see Hutts, but it makes sense. I wonder how things will go with them. Im more interrested in that plotline. The Tusken plotline went from Dances with Wolves to The Last Samurai. It's cool, but yeah it's dragging things out. Now we have flashbacks within flashbacks.
     
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    omg i've been calling for aphra people to be in live action for years and we finally got one my jar literally fell off so now I don't have one
     
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    This episode kind of answered one of my questions.... How is Fett gonna be able to rule without a team on Tatooine? Well, his relationship with the Tusken Raiders should answer the question. The Tusken Raiders aren't evil, they're not perfect, but they have a right to live free like anyone else. I've always thought Anakin slaughtering them like animals didn't hit the audience as hard as it should have because no one really cared. I couldn't help but think of George Lucas in that final scene of this episode and think how happy this must make him. Over 40 years later and this is such an awesome world building story about the Tusken Raiders.

    Outstanding episode and so far I like where this is heading.
     
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    I might be one of the few, but I enjoy Tuscan parts much more than the 'present day' so far. I enjoy Boba earning his place among them by helping them, but also learning their ways. And they are clearly presented as civilized people, they accept advice and award loyalty. The adventure aspect of this episode, together with the train attack and drug induced 'journey', all of it, I loved it.

    That is not to say that 'present day' was bad, I enjoyed seeing the Hutts and, especially, Black Krrsantan. I can see how this will go or at least I think I can see, Boba having to overcome low-level obstacles because, frankly, he doesn't know what he is doing, only to have to do a Michael Corleone in the finale (I wanted respect, but they want fear, or something like that). And, yes, I think Tuscans will play the part and I am loving it.

    I think I am getting the gist and the tone of the show and I like it a lot. There were several moment in both episodes when I got the distinct feeling of "yeah, this is OG Star Wars". Brought tears to my eyes.
     
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    Holy Moley! What a FUN episode! After Ep.1 gave us all a better sense of what the show is all about, this one really ramped everything up! The thing I most enjoy overall is the 'Old West vibe' that Favreau has instilled in Mando and now TBoBF from GL's original Star Wars inspirations. To me, that vibe at the very core of what make Star Wars so special.

    A few reactions:

    THE TWINS. I loved the appearance of the Hutts and the ominous 'drumbeat' that announced their approach. For anybody reacting with 'meh, been there done that,' I would ask, what do you EXPECT in a crimelord series set in Tatooine? I also loved the appearance of the kick-butt wookie who I heard was a SW book character (@mythos said his name was Black Krrsantan) Just thinking about a future fight involving him gives me goosebumps!!! :)

    TOSCHE STATION. What an awesome segment! We got to see Boba Fett in all his badass glory again! And again, reflecting the show's Old West vibe, we have BF stealing speeders (instead of horses) to bring back home to the Tuskin Raiders.

    BOBA'S GADERFFII STICK. I imagine some fans won't like it, but I really enjoyed watching Boba become a force within his Tuskin community. I was particularly fascinated with his 'acceptance' and the sequence that led to Boba getting the wood that he will craft into his gaderffii stick. It's a story that now gives added emotional weight to his initial badass appearance with the weapon in Mando's "The Tragedy" episode.

    THE TRAIN HEIST. OF COURSE, Favreau wraps up the episode with an old-fashioned Old West train heist. :) LOVED IT!!!!

    THE DIRECTOR. I expected that Favreau wrote the episode (as he has most of his Disney+ SW shows,) but I was surprised to discover at the end that he DIDN'T direct it. I was unfamiliar with Steph Green and was surprised when I googled the name to discover that she directed The Watchmen. She did a good job because I assumed while watching the show that it was directed by Favreau and kept admiring it. :)

    I'm looking forward to discussing it with all of you fans. (yoda)
     
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    Solid 9/10, this, with so many call backs and morsels of greatness.

    The exploration of Tusken culture continues to be awesome, and the hutts entering the picture -- and with Black Krrsantan at heel, nonetheless -- sets up some extremely interesting things in Boba's future. :eek:

    The hover train heist was a bit long and action'y for me, and we've seen it a hundred times before, but its individual parts were good and I liked the droid and the hero-Tusken. And I never imagined that Tosche Station was a train station! (I always assumed it was a gas station where people bought their speeder fuel and whatnot). :oops:

    As a huge S:ASWS fan, I loved to see the pykes again, and they fought well and were fierce; cool. :cool:

    Boba's spirit quest was very unexpected, but I loved it. Also, his stick is better than bacon ;)

    And finally, I really appreciated how they staged Ralph McQuarrie’s Tusken Raider concept art towards the end <3
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    Also, to any Dune fans out there; Lisan-al-Gaib, Boba Muad'dib :D
     
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    It seems to me that is what the flashback portion's story will explain. He's becoming a new person and the story is about this transformation and how he's coming to be an even bigger legend than the stories that are told about him. The sand people showed him mercy, their mercy is leading them to be better people. He's sparing people for the same reasons.
     
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    Well, that was ... something! I really really enjoyed this episode. The cameos were cool without overdoing it. The Hammerhead mayor was such a great costume/CGI thing -- they really did that right. I thoroughly enjoyed the long flashback -- they really took us on a fun, informative, psychedelic ride. I've learned to just sit back and enjoy the story with the D+ shows. This one did not disappoint!
     
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    Also, if it wasn't clear from the pilot, it must be clear by now. Favreu was clearly playing with his action figures while writing this. He had all his toys out. :D
     
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    GREAT post, @Andrew Waples

    I previously mentioned how the origin of Boba's gaderffii stick has added emotional weight to his use of the weapon in Mando's 'The Tragedy.' But your shot from Mando's 'The Marshall' gives his surprise appearance a whole new meaning now that we've learned his backstory.
     
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    I don't know if anyone here has watched any Bruce Parry Tribes, but Boba its doing his best here to fit in with the natives and become an honourable member of the tribe, even partaking in the drug taking which is always a sure way to get acknowledged as one of their own.

    Also I wonder if Koo Stark and Anthony Forrest were asked to reprise their roles?
    Imagine having to go through the disappointment of being cut out of one of the greatest films of all time to only then get replaced by a couple of different actors for said part 40 years later
     
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    omg the hutts are so cute
     
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