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SPOILER TBOBF EP. 2 - The Tribes of Tatooine

Discussion in 'The Book of Boba Fett' started by Choose Light, Jan 5, 2022.

  1. NinjaRen

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    So, I don't like the show because I don't pay attention and don't get the simple intentions which the show tries to depict even though I just made a breakdown of what's bad and what's good about that approach? But I'm the ignorant one :rolleyes:

    Instead of attacking a person - which explains his/her personal likes and dislikes - you could actually lay out your points with arguments. Then we can have a discussion like adults.

    We don't have to agree with each other and that's fine. It's awesome that you like this show. For my part there are just too many weaknesses. Sure, it's my fault to expect more than the creators of this show intended.

    Maybe I get a more nuanced story (as @RockyRoadHux describes it) in the Kenobi show.

    I will keep an eye on TBOBF though, maybe there is still content coming which I'm liking then. You never know.
     
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    Of course you'll keep watching it so you can nit pick. That's what I never understood about sequel haters, if i don't like a movie, I walk out. I hate marvel movies, so i don't watch them. Why watch something you clearly don't like?
     
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    And again you name drop me as something I'm not. And people wonder why the SW community is considered to be toxic.

    I can only answer this question for me- why do I keep watching?
    1) I love Star Wars as a whole and I want to dive into this world.
    2) Because I still have the hope that I actually will like it, at least parts of it.
    3) I like to give my feedback (for the creators to see what they did right or what they could improve).
    4) I like to get to discuss with others. It would be really boring if everyone just agrees. Where would be the intellectual exchange then?

    Maybe because you can be surprised by it? I don't like Marvel as well, but I really enjoyed 'Spider Man: No Way Home' and the Hawkeye TV series. I've never expected that.
     
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    ....aaaaand you've just sparked a least one more $20 book sale. Lucasfilm should pay you for your advertising!!! :) :) :)

    It's subtle -- the creative team doesn't smack its audience over the head when it gives Boba a psychological family. But the Tuskin chief is certainly shown to be such a figure -- and the kick-butt, black-attired one who taught Boba how to fight with a gaffi stick has clearly become a brother (or a sister.) By the end of Ep.2, I certainly felt that Boba Fett had become a member of the tribe, both physically (the shot of his unveiling sporting his Tuskin attire ROCKED!) and psychologically.

    Don't hold back, RockyRoadHux, tell us what you really think. ;) :)

    When it comes to SW fan criticism, most of us have 'been there & done that' at some point along the way so its all good. But IMHO there's a big difference between disliking a film and the rollout of a new TV series. With a film, you left the theatre seeing what the creative team was trying to do from beginning to end. Many films I was 'meh' to until an exciting, drama-filled ending or vise versa. With TBoBF, we're getting pieces of the puzzle each week. Until we've watched the season finale, it's hard to judge the 'whole thing' -- bad or good. All we can do at this point is speculate and say whether we're enjoying 'the ride' thus far.
     
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    Are you sure that isn’t what we saw at the end with that lovely little dance number around the bonfire ;)
    I agree that Luke’s depiction in TLJ was, in no way, disrespectful. But to assert that an author is incapable of betraying the original essence of one of their character creations? That’s a little too sweeping a statement for me.
     
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    Yes, and this is the reason why I keep watching- to have the full picture. Now I can only rate the pieces. But is it wrong to have an opinion about the single pieces? Or shouldn't someone want these pieces to be great and stand on their own as well?

    I don't rate a bad movie as masterpiece only because the ending was great. If the ending is great then it's just that. The rest of the movie still sucked.

    The Boba Fett show will never be a 10/10 for me even if the next next episodes are all great. The first two were still bad for me. I hope you get what I mean.

    But I don't want to derail this thread any longer. I shared my opinion- my dislikes and likes. For a matter of fact no one cared about my likes. I did say, I liked they first 10 minutes of Episode 2 and that I hope we will see that black Wookie more often.
     
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    And that's fine, because that's why we have a thread for each episode, so I'd suggest you sit back and let people discuss what they liked about that episode and what the didn't like, @Darth Derringer.
     
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    Since this is apparently a bone of contention, I've addressed it in the Luke Skywalker thread in the TLJ forum.

    The author, George Lucas, didn't "betray the original essense" of his character, Rian Johnson did with -- I might add -- serious behind-the-scenes reservations from Mark Hamil.

    At least with Boba Fett, questions regarding his character in TBoBF is much more open to interpretation.
     
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    I hate to say it but I completely. Unless you’re DEEP into SW (I’m talking comics and EU deep) and get a kick out of seeing characters and details pulled out of there on screen, there’s not much redeeming about this show.

    I’m the SW person in my house but I’m only into what’s been out on screen (that includes TV). I’m barely hanging on because I’ve never really cared to go deeper with the Tuscans (can’t anyone ever just exist as a simple plot device to move a story along without having to go back and give their full backstory and show how no one is all bad?) so I’m getting a story I never wanted and am not getting “the feels” about these guys.

    My wife isn’t a SW person but loved Mando because it was just a good show. After the first two Boba episodes she’s basically like “what the heck is this and what’s the point?”

    I’ve seen enough of Filoni that I trust him that this will all come together and at some point I’ll understand the meaning of what we’ve seen so far. I just dont get it yet.

    To be clear, when I say “understand the meaning” I mean to the stakes/plot of this series not to the context of any other SW content.

    I guess I’m saying I’m pretty disappointed but still holding out hop3.
     
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    Good to know.
    Whoa there, guy. Save that incredible insight for the other thread. No need to waste that pure gold here :D
     
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    My wife isn't much of a SW person either but she also is a big fan of The Mandalorian. In our opinion, it is a well-written and produced show. The fact that it features the cutiest and most-loved SW character ever created probably doesn't hurt either. :) :) :)

    But she's also enjoying TBoBF, particularly this past one, Ep.2. She thought the Tuskin backstory was "really fun" and reminded her of 'Dances with Wolves,' an old Kevin Costner film we both enjoyed back in the day.

    I hope the show gets better for the two of you.
     
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    "sequel haters"

    Let's take it down a couple of notches. No need to be insulting. Thank you.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 9, 2022, Original Post Date: Jan 9, 2022 ---
    Let's try and stay positive here people. I'm seeing commentary beginning to stray from the focus of this thread, which is TBOBF Ep.2, to more of the members who are posting in it. We have a long way to to in this series with a ton of commentary. Please keep your comments respectful. Thank you.

    PS. If it don't apply, let it fly. ;)
     
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    Im not being insulting. There are people who choose to hate things for whatever reason. They can't be reasoned with. When someone complains about tusken raiders living in tents, i can't take them seriously. Next they'll say boba fett is a mary sue.
     
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    I'll pm you.
     
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    I agree with some of these points above. For people who haven’t delve down into the Expanded Universe they can’t understand the logic behind this show. It tries to tell a story of after the Sarlack Pit, but fails to catch the eyes of newbies.
     
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    I am a SW film/TV guy with zero knowledge of the Expanded Universe. There's nothing about the logic of the show that I'm failing to understand. Either that or I'm too much of a EU Ignoramous to get its deeper meaning.
     
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    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions about TBOBF, @NinjaRen, and I respect you talking about the flaws of this show because they are there. Nothing is without flaw.

    This show started of very slow and lackluster it was hard for me to understand what was really going on, but I instead gave it a second chance. My mother watched it with me and ended up falling asleep mid first episode compared to when we watched Mando it blew us away. She became invested, wanted to watch more, read the republic commando books I handed her. I think every show they release should make people want to dwell elsewhere for more stuff like it. TBOBF although started off too slow to catch even my mothers eyes and she sat through 6 seasons of Pretty Little Liars.
     
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    Just hearing the name "Boba Fett" should make people think twice. It's not Boba Fett at all, it's some 60-year-old trying to recast his role in a major live-action Star Wars show. Firstly, Fett is considered the single greatest bounty hunter alive. Clearly, this show feels otherwise. They don't make him feel like a threat at all. Boba Fett is known for his ruthless methods "He was dressed in a weapon-covered, armored spacesuit, the kind worn by a group of evil warriors defeated by the Jedi Knights during the Clone Wars", stated by the BobaFetFanClub Website. During this show, he feels like he's going through dementia or drug withdrawals he has no clue what his main goal is. It's all over the place while trying to create a connection with the Tusken Raiders which in previous installments are a savage race themselves. I'm not understanding why he isn't killed by them or left for dead in the sands of Tatooine.
     
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