SPOILER TBOBF Ep. 3 - The Streets of Mos Espa

This has been discussed at length this week. It was a light-hearted romp through the city played for laughs. Here is a similar light-hearted chase played for laughs from the film, Back to the Future:

 

Yes, I have seen Back to the Future.

When you say "discussed", do you mean in this forum, or, as I asked previously, is there an interview of F or F where they discuss this?

 

Yes, it's been discussed at length in this forum. Here is an article discussing Robert Rodriguez's comedic choices in the chase. The author compares TBoBF's light-hearted chase scene favorably to Speilberg's in Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom.

The Book of Boba Fett Redeems a Problematic Moment from Indiana Jones
The Book of Boba Fett Episode 3 contains a riff on an Indiana Jones gag that's seemingly a deliberate effort to improve on the problematic original
Article by Robert Vaux
https://www.cbr.com/the-book-of-boba-fett-redeems-a-problematic-moment-from-indiana-jones/

 

OK thanks. I had not seen that. I thought when you just said "it was discussed in this forum" you meant it was "discussed in this forum"

Interesting article, not sure I agree with everything said in it, but what the hey.

Anyway, chase scene or not, this series so far has been kind of "meh" for me.....

 

I’m not disappointed in this show because I had certain expectations. I’m disappointed because it has not set up any reason why I should connect and there for care about either of the main characters, there is no urgency for anything, and the visual effects are pretty bad. I’m disappointed because it’s an objectively boring show not because of any preconceived notions.

other SW series have gotten off to slow starts only for a really satisfying payoff, so I’m still holding out hope but this is easily the least invested I’ve been in any series/characters.

 

Agreed @Deac421 .....

Let me sum up my feelings this way. At 1 minute and 9 seconds into Season 1, Episode 1, of the Mandalorian, we had the below happen. This hooked me, immediately. Scene, character, score, etc - all coming together to hook me. No scene yet of BoBF has approached this for me.

 

Maybe, if so, at least it would make me feel better that they knew how bad it was. But for a show that’s 3 episodes and halfway through the series it has yet to establish clear stakes worth caring about, a sink and nod joke throw away that doesn’t advance the story was a poor use of run time IMO.

 

it's ok if someone dislikes something, we each like different things, don't let it bother you or consume you. Before I became a mod I basically skipped over post, but as a mod I have to read everything. If you feel someone is going a bit too far contact a mod we'll handle it from there. Enjoy your time here, there are allot of members that enjoy TBOBF, and I'm having a blast!

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more Fennec indeed!

 

Only because it was intended to be for laughs, doesn't mean it's automatically a good chase. Your comparison with BTTF actually shows why the chase in TBOBF is weak.

In BTTF the chase is fast paced, intense and yes, funny as well. Then it features characters we actually care about- the main character Marty is chased by the the main antagonist Biff.
In the Boba show the mayor's assistant is chased by unknown teenagers. Why should I care about this situation? I'm not invested in those characters at all.

As @Deac421 mentioned before, this scene doesn't advance the plot.

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For me it wasn't. Yes, I liked alot about season 1, but I only liked episode 1 of S2.

I liked season 1 mainly because of the western vibe (even though it was very superficial). I am a big fan of western movies. But S2 completely lost that vibe for me.

Mando S2 and TBOBF don't feel necessary to me. I don't like the term fanfiction, but I have to use it here. These two shows feel like stuff fans would do- fan service but no "challenging the mind of the audience".

If we really needed S2 of Mando and the Boba show, then they should have combined these two shows. Mando and Boba being buddies in the whole S2 of 'The Mandalorian'.

 

Moreover we had this beautiful set up and payoff with Marty riding skateboard on the beginning in the 80s and him inventing the skateboard in the 50s.

 

I've said from the get-go that people here can like the chase scene -- or not. That's fine. We're all entitled to our opinions. The only thing that got me a bit annoyed this week were the fans who insisted on critiquing it as if it were a poorly-executed car chase out of 'The Fast and The Furious' instead of the funny, light-hearted romp through the streets of Mos Espa it was always meant to be.

Again, that's fine. No one is forcing you to like either show. But as far as 'not feeling necessary,' I would counter that a whole lot of fans were emotionally invested in Season 2 of Mando as much -- or more -- than anything we've ever seen before in Star Wars.

 

Maybe that's because more poeple realize that this chase actually is badly executed. Can you still like it? Sure! But if you compare it with better made chase scenes or with the chase scenes which this one is based on, then you cannot deny the weaker execution.

 

Why were they driving like 10 mph anyway? Weren't they supposed to be that cool and rebellious gang of Teenagers who give a blast about rules and regulations?

Doesn't make any sense, does it? I stand by it, the chase scene was just as bad as the parkour scene with Fennec.

 

Just as no one is forcing you to dislike anything.

 

With that chase discussions and tributes and Indiana Jones and BTTF and things.
I also saw The Goonies exact shots from Rosalita and that protocol droid in the middle of the street.

From 2:37 -2:43 for your consideration.

 

Huh??!?

As long as fans avoid trolling by explaining to the forum what it is that they dislike, it's all fine and dandy. Their feedback gives us all a better understanding of their persective so we can turn it into an interesting discussion.

When the criticism was made that the chase scene was horrible because it lacked any high-speed chills and thrills, I pointed out the scene was played as a light-hearted romp thru town. That generated a 'show us proof' request. With all due respect to the 'it did a lousy job of mirroring the Fast & Furious' viewpoint, the approach the showrunners took with that scene is pretty obvious.

I'm all for fans expressing their likes and dislikes. Ironically, the chase scene was far from my favorite part of the episode. I have no issue with anyone ripping it. My only point is that fans dislike it for what it actually was, not what they wanted it to be.

 

Honest question: do we really know what the creators' intention was, or is this just speculation?
Secondly, even if this was their intention and let's say they were successful, do I then have to like it? No. The scene may be exactly how they envisioned it, but I still think it was the wrong call to do it that way.

But that's my last post about this chase scene. Let's just say- agree to disagree.

 

I have to be veeeeeeeeeeeeery careful with this one because some people have taken my previous responses to this same question as being rude. I'm on record here as saying the intentions of Jon Favreau's script and Robert Rodriguez's direction of the scene were obvious. I'll leave it at that.

If you read my previous post, I said I'm all for fans like you expressing your dislikes -- including the chase scene. In the list of things I liked about the episode, it would be close to the bottom.

Yay! Mine too!!!

Sounds good, @NinjaRen.....wait, WHAT??!? There's NO emoji I can put here of two smiley faces clicking drinking glasses?!?! That's standard on most message boards! Damn, I'm going to have to complain to the mods about this!!!!

 

Completely revitalised? Now let's not get carried away. We got Baby Yoda I'll give you that, but apart from that, Mando and Boba are nothing more than testing water for other already established characters and their shows to come.

 

Well their intention surely wasn't for the CG animation of the bikes to have such inconsistent looking physics and gravity. But that's the way it came out. I'm sure they had the time and resources to improve any shots that didn't work out. But they didn't. Seems most plausible that they were attempting something less intense than the chases we saw in Mandalorian (as it is offset with the tragedy in the Tusken camp) and this intent locked them in to some weird results they thought were suitable but which just don't work on the audience. Really the conception of the chase is fine. The tone is perfect for a pursuee like the Majordomo. Loved all the near misses and boxes getting smashed. Like something out of CHiPs, Starsky & Hutch, Dukes Of Hazard. But some shots wind up looking more like animated bikes might appear in a scene from Mary Poppins (you may use that analogy now, everyone ).

It just seems like they overshot when trying for something distinctively light and cute. We got odd and lame instead. But in amongst a scene which is basically fine.