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SPOILER TBOBF EP. 4 - The Gathering Storm

Discussion in 'The Book of Boba Fett' started by Lazarus Dei, Jan 19, 2022.

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  1. NinjaRen

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    So, children aren't allowed to have a somehow more intellectual show?

    Star Wars is much bigger than George Lucas. Especially since Disney bought it. Don't let your imagination be bound by a quote a grumpy Lucas once said during SW Celebration.
     
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    I get that, but personally I don't really want the "mature" themes to become too prevalent. As has been mentioned SW is an escape, and I think it will always be better as a lighthearted adventure. There's a fun comic book type of thing going on with BOBF now... it's not changing the course of SW history but to me it's just cool to see the cracks filled in. I wish you and others were enjoying it as much as I am, maybe there's still hope for that with the next 3 episodes (as Ming-Na Wen hinted at)

    Also, I think that Disney badly wants to create something with the "bad guy" as the main lead but they are just ever so slightly missing the mark. Kylo Ren, now BoBF. Mando even had us guessing at the beginning. Fett is still more good than bad, which is fine but it just feels jarring because we've always been told he was the baddest around. Of course, his character change is also spelled out for us right in the premise of the show: "Boba Fett reinvents himself on the sands of Tatooine." ...not that that's a great excuse or anything.

    The Acolyte
    might be the first real venture into true villain-centric material. They're saying Andor will be more intense, but still that's supposed to be about the heroes. Or maybe SW is just destined to always walk the line between good guys doing bad things, and bad guys doing good things... and in between: balance.

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    So a ruthless Fett would mean a more intellectual show? I understand if people want a more violent and ruthless Fett, but what does that have to do with intelligence? This is a Disney product for all ages. It seems like your biggest issue is the series failing to live up to your own expectations.
    That is quintessential Star Wars. It's what Filoni has been doing for years. This version of Fett is something I could see Filoni make. It's also what they've been doing with Thrawn. Star Wars is about good and evil, but it's also about redemption.
     
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    Throughout human history, classic children's tales have shown over and over again that they can be incredibly dark, dangerous and menacing. But Star Wars certainly doesn't need the gratuitous nudity, sex and violence found in your 'more intellectual' examples.
     
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    You didn't get my examples. While I don't watch GOT, this show and Narcos have the theme of intrigues and power play. Perfect for Boba and his "Crime Lord" activities. You know, this topic IS ruthless and violent.

    Obviously. Opinions are always subjective. I want a better show, which challenges its audience.
     
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    When it comes to the topic of ruthless and violence in TBoBF, seems to me that the show has shown it's nasty side a few times...
    • Bib Fortuna shoots down in cold blood and then Boba Fett carelessly throws his dead body onto the floor.
    • Fett strangles a four-armed sand creature to death.
    • Fennec does her assassin thing.
    • Shand and Fett blow up the Sarlacc.
    • Black Krrsantan pulls somebody's arm off.
    • A Tusken village is massacred.
    This is just the first half. I suspect the badassness with ratchet up in the second half. :)
     
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    I see the the Fett not being in character, ruthless and Disney ruining SW to be yet another misconception and fans projecting their ideas that when not met, the story fails immediately.

    I am actually satisfied with Fett, same as with Last Jedi making Luke a more human, with the unending conflict leaving mark on his psyche with Ben Solo turning to dark side being the last straw. But I get that nonstop machine, powerful Jedi Luke, that goes strong well into his 80 years old with just a bit of grey hair and making peace by lightsaber his is only passion and life, that he shares with a redhead 90s pagespread model is the Luke of our 90s EU childhoods.

    How is Fett not ''ruthless''? In the flashbacks, he was quite fierce, same as in Mandalorian. In the present, he tries to be more cautious. He is bounty hunter wannabe kingpin and he has no idea how to be one, so he's threading carefully and gaining experience.
    I actually liked his explanation of not wanting to be working for dumb people as a tool, but be on their level and do things as he sees fit and believes in.
    Heck it's actually a great coming of age story for older people and adults who have careers, and with me it resonates quite well as a graphic designer.
    I am currently working on as well to become better established, after 10+ years as working as a tool and being burned down with being sucked of creative ideas, with wanting to have a studio or name of my own and sell myself without dooing unnecesary overtimes and rushed work with crappy output.
    It's actually quite interesting idea and I love that!
    Compare that with other characters in Star Wars, I might say that Fett is going beyond being one of the best bounty hunters and also has probably the biggest ambition. Simmilar to Han, who wanted to be the best star pilot in the galaxy and he probably was, or was one of the best.
    I actually think that Star Wars has lot of adult themes as well... even Jar Jar, he is that kind and nice guy, but total idiot who helped empire to come into power and ruined the democracy :D And we can go on.
     
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    Been super busy but wanted to post my thoughts on this episode.

    I really liked this episode. In a lot of ways, this is the episode I was waiting for.

    Why? Because Boba had specific goals that carried across multiple scenes and obstacles. And we finally understood why he’s doing it. That puts a driving engine behind everything, even the slower moments.

    He wants revenge for the Tuskens, so he needs to get his ship, so he needs to invade the castle, so he needs to fight the droids—see the obstacles within obstacles? The little conflicts to resolve the big conflict? THAT drives a story forward. It makes everything feel urgent, relevant, meaningful.

    In previous episodes, we had an overarching objective of “Boba wants to be the crime boss.” But that’s not a very concrete goal. We didn’t understand the steps needed to get there, the obstacles in the way. We didn’t know why he wanted it in the first place. The conflicts weren’t nested within each other, they came one after another with no real sense of trajectory, so the slower moments felt . . . slow.

    But that all changed in Episode 4. This episode had a driving force behind it.

    Hope that carries forward.
     
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    He couldn't have just asked for his ship back? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . just sayin' :oops:
     
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    Fennec wondered the same thing... Fett said "I might not like the answer." And then something to the effect of "I'm not as formidable without my armor."

    Actually, that would have been a little cooler to see: Fett returns, finds Bib on the throne, announces who he is and asks for his ship back. They laugh him out of court, embarrass him and throw him out, but he's still too weak to do anything. Months (years?) later Fett returns with his armor.... this time around, no questions asked. Bye-bye Bib!
     
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    This pod is juuuuuust big enough for us two peas. I was thinking the same thing :)
     
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    Now THAT would have been very cool IMHO! I realize they locked themselves in with the teaser trailer but what @DarthSnow described would have made for some really dramatic scenes.
     
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    It also would hem a little closer to the themes. Boba leads with respect, but is disrespected in return, and only then escalates to violence. Then, when he reclaims his ship (which already represents his pride), he’s also reclaiming his honor - reclaiming his dignity. Both directly and indirectly.

    Heck, throw in where the action is taking place, and you have yourself a reminiscent little nod to ROTJ when Luke tries to negotiate for his friend first before settling on taking him back by force. “You should have bargained. That's the last mistake you'll ever make." :)
     
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    Yes, @NinjaRen . I believe that TBOBF should have been that first "R" rated SW content that has been talked about here a lot......
     
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    The guy with the weird dub step music has it's own poster, didn't see that coming
     
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    The music that's playing as Boba approaches the Mod shop is by Thundercat. The soundtrack to the montage where they fix Shannac's guts is by someone else. Gorranson or Shirley I presume. Thundercat is not dubstep. Neither really is any of the music heard in The Gathering Storm. The mod scene sounds more like a PS1 game from 1996.

    This is Thundercat, for reference.

    I think it's interesting and nice that LFL are incrementally trying to erase the stigma of artificial limbs etc that has been established by the perception of Anakin/Vader imposed on the canon by some characters. Now that prostheses are becoming more advanced and available to people IRL. It sends a bad message if everyone in the GFFA who needs a replacement gets demonised or characterised as less human. It's clear that the "otherness" of uncommon body parts is being used as a broad allegory for all sorts of niche and "alternative" lifestyles that might promote fear in and/or attract ridicule from others.
     
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    Disney SW will always have a villain problem as they they are competing against the greatest villain of all time: Vader(personally I find Candyman terrifying but that's a whole different discussion). I think think they are missing the boat when not doing a live-action series about Vader in his early Sith years.
     
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    ok so right now boba's entourage consists of:
    boba fett
    shennec fand
    bobby the rancor
    black cassandra
    danny trejo
    steve the torture droid
    erik the waiter droid
    vespa mafia
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    klatoonian gang
    trandoshan gang
    aqualish gang
     
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    Don't forget the sarlac. He'll come around in the end. Also, the Tusken ninja woman and the Sand Kid (tm) will be back, for sure, not to mention Betsy the Bantha!
     
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