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SPECULATION TFA Aftermath: Resistance Resurgence?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Grandmaster Kaidrogos, Dec 28, 2015.

  1. Grandmaster Kaidrogos

    Grandmaster Kaidrogos Rebel Trooper

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    When the opening crawl for Episode 8 rolls sometime in May 2017, will we be seeing a drastically different Resistance army or one that is about to undergo a metamorphosis?

    "The Resistance is so undermanned nearly all of its personnel do double duty (or more), serving as ground troops. Scanner technicians, droid programmers, starship mechanics - all are willing to don a combat helmet and pick up a blaster rifle to do battle with the First Order should circumstances call for it. [PAGE 57 Star Wars TFA Visual Dictionary]" The Resistance probably lacks the finances it requires to mount an effective campaign against the First Order, but following the Starkiller Base attack on the Hosnian system, could that all change?

    Following the attacks on 9/11 and in Paris, military enlistment for both countries increased significantly. The number of French people signing up to join the military reached levels not seen in decades. It seems to me perfectly plausible that a similar development could happen either for the (new) Republic or the Resistance. General Organa's words of warning about the First Order would finally be taken seriously by whatever is left of the senate and would consequently engage the First Order with whatever remaining forces they have at their disposal. Alternatively whatever remains of the (new) Republic's military and resources would be subsumed into the Resistance.


    A Resistance/Republic coalition would thereby challenge the First Order overtly, leading to a World War Galactic War of massive proportions.

    Some might be quick to point out that no such thing occurred following the destruction of Alderaan in ANH. The rebellion was just as underfinanced and undermanned in ESB as before. While true, I don't think these situations are comparable to the extent that the Empire was a hegemon - the uncontested superpower of the galaxy - going against terrorists, whereas in post-ROTJ, the galaxy appears to have shifted towards a bipolar system with the First Order and Resistance/Republic at each pole.
     
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    I think we can expect the Resistance to be very much folded into the Republic. My guess is it'll be a fairly even state of Civil War, with the Republic having a better grasp of the power structure.
     
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    The Resistance will no longer be a small group of black ops operatives and aging generals, but rather the legitimate military of The Republic.After all, most of the republics soliders and leaders are most likely dead now so somebody has to step up. I'm also guessing that Leia is probably next in line for Supreme Chancellor
     
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    Yeah I agree with the above posts. It's the only way to move forward in the most interesting way, but also a different path from the OT.

    I see the movie opening a year or two after TFA. The Resistance leaders have taken control of the remaining Republic government and are rebuilding the fleet and military while trying to balance politics. Likewise, the FO is rebuilding and gaining support from worlds sympathetic to the old Empire. There have been battles, but no big conflicts yet. Then, VIII begins.

    This is also a good way to show some different worlds and the political unrest of the galaxy in an interesting way.
     
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    Participation in the Rebellion actually increased a lot, not after Alderaan, but after Yavin, though both events can be seen as pretty much belonging together.

    The Mon Calamari joined as a people, Poe Dameron's parents joined after Yavin and so on.

    One reason why the Resistance was so underfinanced was the New Republic's complacency when it came to the FO.
    Now that the FO has attacked the Republic I think we will see a much more coordinated effort.
    AND the Resistance is basically the only military Force that the Republic has left.

    Their fleet had been in orbit around Hosnia Prima and got destroyed along with the senat (which is a whole nother topic)
    THe individual star systems of course still have their home fleets, but just like some senators secretely supported the FO, some planetary systems will switch their support now.

    Others will very likely throw in their lot with the Resistance. (YOU HEAR THAT RYLOTH? MORE TWI'LEK!)

    So in VIII we will likely see a much more diverse fleet and a much more dynamic political landscape.
    I wouldn't be surprised if VIII were about gathering suport and bringing together all the Republic systems to form an alliance after the destruction of the government.
     
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    I want the crawl to say something like "Now with the lost of there main system the Republic and Resistance have formed into a Resistance Republic"
     
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    I think the destruction of the Senate will have been a wake-up call for the Senate...
     
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    It is difficult to tell. After the destruction of the Hosnian system, it will probably take many years before the Republic can rebuild its military and become a significant power in the galaxy again. However, in addition to the Republic and the First Order, there are also other "neutral systems" in between, which Hux hoped "would bow to the FO" once the Senate and the Republic's fleet had been destroyed. My feeling is that Leia will be engaging in diplomatic work to enlist the support of those neutral systems now that the Resistance can no longer count on the Republic to protect it.

    I also agree with what has been said about the Republic underestimating the FO's threat. Nevertheless, I wonder how the Republic and the Resistance were unaware of Starkiller base. I mean, don't they have intelligence services, Bothan spies and all that ? How could the FO build a superweapon like that unnoticed ?
     
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    'Resistance' is a stupid name. The Empire isn't occuping the Republic, so there isn't a resistance. Yet.
    The 'Resistance' should properly be called a militia. ;)
     
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    This is close to my expectation as well. I understood that the New Republic is very diminutive compared to the Old Republic, and many star systems opted out from being part of it. In essence what the First Order did was to destroy the core of the Republic with the Starkiller weapon, leaving the galaxy in a power vacuum.

    This would mean also that Resistance and First Order would be rather evenly matched, with FO most likely having the upper hand in that sense that it has more resources and most likely an existing fleet, whereas Resistance lacks both funds and resources to encounter the First Order in a direct fight. Thus, Snoke and Leia both would need to woo other star systems to join either one's side.
     
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    Well you'll have to blame General Leia for that, the first order in Hux had chose their name well but the resistance name had to show the republic was still strong, who knows they might change it in episode 8.
     
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    With all the Republic's leadership gone (including those who worked with Snoke, Poe's story in Before The Awakening implied tells us he had spies in the Senate), it is not inconceivable that Resistance leadership actually turns into a temporary government.

    That being said, it depends how much time passes between VII and VIII - if it's short, we can expect leadership vacuum and therefore chaos. But, yes, one can hope that the remnants of the Republic are smart enough to give Leia & Co. some executive powers. FO has an advantage just based on the fact that they have centralized leadership and no actual dissent as in democracy.
     
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    They destroyed the capital, which housed the senate and chancellor... but does that mean the Republic is dead? I suppose with a weak fleet it would be impossible to control every system, but this isn't the Empire. people like the Republic.

    With no central government in the Republic, I do wonder if the Resistance isn't actually weaker now. Leia was funded by sympathetic senators. I feel like this would be a perfect opportunity for a certain Baron Administrator to swoop in and help out an old friend......

    (lando)
     
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    What if all the troop's and ships of the New Old Republic joint the Republic's fleet
     
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