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Thandiwe Newton Weighs in on ‘Solo’ Experience Including Her Characters Death Not Being in the Script

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  1. SWNN Probe

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    Solo: A Star Wars Story actress Thandiwe Newton recently opened up about her experience shooting the movie, and how she felt they made a huge mistake with the fate of her character, Val.



    It's been over three years since the release of Solo: A Star Wars Story, a movie that suffered a lot during its production, to the point that they had to reshoot a lot of the movie with a new director. That put a lot of pressure on the schedule, especially given Bob Iger's reported refusal to budge on the May 2018 release date Disney had set for the movie. As a consequence, some sacrifices had to be made. Thandiwe Newton is now opening up about one of them.



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    In a new interview with Inverse, the actress explained that due to the short window of time they had to film her scenes, they had to blow her up instead of having her fall into the vacuum with the purpose of bringing her back at some point later. She said:



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    Newton then doubled down on that point:



    Val's fate in the movie was pretty definitive, but in the words of one Luke Skywalker, 'no one is ever really gone.' Especially not in Star Wars. Even the harshest critics of Solo might agree that there was potential for that character.



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    It is no secret that we are here big supporters of the Make Solo 2 Happen movement, which has already trended worldwide three years in a row. While bringing Val back seems like a stretch, even for Star Wars, a hypothetical Solo series focused on both Han and Chewie, and the machinations of Qi'ra and Maul running Crimson Dawn, would present the perfect opportunity to bring in more new and interesting characters in the vein of Val.



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    I think Newton (technically Newton Parker) has a point about it being unfortuante that they killed off the first black woman in SW... that's certainly a bit icky... But, I do believe that Val's death gives much-needed weight to the movie, adding consequence and threat to the adventure. When such an awesome character as Val is taken out, that brings an illusion of danger to Han & Co as well.

    That said, I hope someone gives her another role in Star Wars; that'd be cool :)
     
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    should have brought a bothan and then kill it
     
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    Did she really say "Maclunkey" or was that an editorial decision? Either way, well done :p

    And I agree, I think Val should and could have been a very important character in the series. Black women needed more representation in Star Wars, and this felt almost too targeted.
     
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    I didn't realize she was the first black woman in Star Wars and I'm a POC. I like her role especially when she kept Beckett in check. I'm starting to like Solo a bit more these days, what bothered me about the film was the Kessel run, I heard about it all my life, and to me it was underwhelming to say the least. The western touch especially the gambling scenes felt like Star Wars. Darth Maul at the end peaked my interest. I hope Qi'ra shows up again in a live action series she is very mysterious. Talk about bad girls femme fatals...

    I was one of the few people that went to the movies to see Solo. I still can't believe the theatre was empty with a Star Wars film on the big screen.:eek: TLJ's impact was felt on that occasion.

    They brought back Fennec Shand. They can bring back Val half cyborg or whatever its not too hard to figure out...
     
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    Thandie Newton is not black. Her biological father (Nick Newton) is white and her biological mother (Nyasha Newton, née Jombe) is black.
    Thandie Newton is neither fully black or fully white, she is mixed race.
     
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    I agree, why is it if you have an ounce of black blood you are considered black? My ex-girlfriend of 7 years is half black half white Spanish.

    And she has told me allot of horror stories of being treated like a black person.

    As a black person I was fortunate enough not to be treated poorly at restaurants, retail establishments, and public places.

    Maybe its the way I carry myself, (I really don't know) but I have been stopped by the police allot and I greet the cops with respect.

    I'm a law enforcement officer now, so I am fortunate, all I have to do is show my badge, but before I do show my credentials, I'm considered black, so I must be very careful when reaching for my wallet. :D
     
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    I'm very uncomfortable with pitting the death of a film character against the race of the actress who embodies him.

    One day, someone will come an complain that the fact Jawas don't speak is an outrage against the dwarfs.
    ... Or ...
    The fact that Tuskens are masked is a mockery to all the deathmetal and blackmetal growl singers.
    ... Or ...
    Chewie has blonde long hair, and it is an insult to all breeds of short-haired brunettes dogs.

    Well... with a bunch of perverse bad faith, one may justify evil is everywhere, everytime and in everything.
    For the others, well... "it's just a movie".
     
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    I think Thandiwe was just alluding to a desire to see a female POC become an enduring character in the franchise. It's a totally understandable desire and request from her perspective. My exact memory of the scene where she buys it isn't great. But in my mind, just about any death in a sci-fantasy adventure is effectively provisional. She could have used the opportunity to fake her death and break free from Woody, whom she loved but still knew he'd never stop scheming and settle down, and it would be the end of both of them.


    I think the semantics argument about mixed-race and what makes someone black is totally undue and completely out of place in this discussion by the way. We all know perfectly well what Thandiwe is talking about.
     
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    Just from a strictly character perspective, it was kind of a shame to so obviously off Val. It would be just as much of a Star Wars thing to have her fall a bajillion feet into the mist and then later miraculously, in Star Wars fashion, survive. ("Somehow, Val returned.")

    Also, it's frustrating to me that her main purpose as a character seemed to be to supply man pain for Beckett. :rolleyes:

    In any case, I thought she was an interesting character and I was sad to see her die for that reason.
     
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