The basic plot of Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker assembled from sources.

Where is he disputing this? Also, he mentioned yesterday he doesn't really know. He works with Bespin who signed off on the JediPaxis thing. There doesn't appear to be a dispute.

That's the wrong outline. That was from May 2015. By August, most of the film was leaked out. So this is a little bit of an apple/oranges comparison.

I'll add one thing.... There's some things I like about this leak and some things I really don't like, but I think it's unfair to disuses them without any context or script to know how it works.

 

Even if the leaks are 100% true, I’m still holding back discussing specific scenes because I agree that context is everything.

For example, the one TFA spoiler I read was Luke not being in the movie until 30 seconds left in the film. I was furious when I read that, yet I loved it when I saw the TFA ending in the theater.

I look more at big picture spoilers and where the movie is going and how they are linking it to TFA and TLJ. I will continue to say my biggest worry is it feels like ROTJ 2.0 if Rey confronts The Emperor in the Throne Room and Kylo dies. That doesn’t mean I won’t enjoy the movie cause TFA is ANH 2.0, but I enjoyed it. It will just be a bummer that the ST was essentially a reboot of the OT story with a few pieces of the puzzle mixed around.

 

For people who haven't seen the finished product, but just have the nuts and bolts it's a little easy to compare it to what we've already seen. It seems like JJ would avoid steering this film towards another rehash, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

It would completely go against the comments he made on the Vanity Fair piece: "The Rise of Skywalker might be that point. “Working on nine, I found myself approaching it slightly differently,” he says. “Which is to say that, on seven, I felt beholden to Star Wars in a way that was interesting—I was doing what to the best of my ability I felt Star Wars should be.” But this time something changed. Abrams found himself making different choices—for the camera angles, the lighting, the story. “It felt slightly more renegade; it felt slightly more like, you know, F*** it, I’m going to do the thing that feels right because it does, not because it adheres to something.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/05/star-wars-cover-story

 

I agree with your post, just wanted to point this out: JJ Abrams is not a good film maker... Super 8 was forgettable to say the least... What film has JJ Abrams directed that you can say was a good film? Mission Impossible 3? HAHA

The only reason Kathleen Kennedy was so adamant about getting JJ Abrams on Star Wars was simply because he brought Star Trek out of obscurity.

So much so, that when JJ said NO, she got his mentor Spielberg to talk him into it( which ironically, Spielberg wouldn't dream of doing himself out of respect for Lucas).

Spielberg helped an old friend, Kennedy, get a person she believed could do a good job on Star Wars simply because he did a good job with Star Trek. KK and Spielberg are pals, so he helped her out.

So, we're getting fairly decent Star Wars films... nothing even close to Kershner level Star Wars. I would expect better Star Wars films from filmmakers like Nolan, who wouldn't waste their time on Star Wars.

We had a chance at greatness with the GoT guys but it seems like they're jumping ship for Netflix. sorry for getting off topic and going on a tangent...

 

This type of hyperbole is just silly. JJ Abrams has been very successful. You not liking his work is fine, but he's well established as one of the most creative forces in Hollywood. WarnerMedia wouldn't give $500M to a poor filmmaker.

They're still doing their Star Wars project so they're not jumping ship.

I agree which is why it's difficult to jump to conclusions. We're limited by our own imaginations.

 

I loved Lost, hahaha but what has JJ done, really, in terms of film making beside all the TV stuff?

 

I would respectfully agree and disagree. I don’t think JJ is a hack as many fans rate him. I think he’s a safe choice and he makes solid films that are entertaining in this era of Blockbusters.

My critique of him is that he doesn’t have that ‘classic’ film on his resume yet. Every great filmmaker has atleast one great movie that stands out on their resume. Johnathem Demme comes to mind with ‘Silence of The a Lambs.’ I don’t see anything like that on JJ’s resume yet as only time will tell....

 

Um, didn't Kershner co-write Episode 7?

 

You mean Kasdan?

 

My bad, I read the name wrong.

 

2 cents: TFA is the reason I'm even a Star Wars fan and MI3 is my favorite film in that franchise.

I think what JJ is not so great at is answering questions. That's his only flaw in my opinion (and it is a BIG flaw if you're gonna handle a franchise like Star Wars). So, assuming someone forces him to give some closure in Episode IX, I expect a very well made film.

 

I think I was a bit harsh saying JJ is not good film maker, since I too enjoyed TFA. MI3 was ok, can't seem to remember wanting to watch it again, but I will to see if I change my mind. Films are subjective, so I think I was being a bit too cocky. I like allot of JJ Abrams projects that being said, for me he hasn't made that film where I can generally recommend as a great film. I can't say, JJ Abrams is a great film maker go watch MI3 or TFA!

Although, I'm looking forward to see what he'll be doing for WarnerMedia. Will he be the Kevin Feige? I know everybody is being compared to Feige nowadays...

 

Thank you for your kind and well-said response.

I never saw Super 8 and the Star Trek films didn't do anything for me. I chalked it up to the fact that I've very rarely enjoyed any Star Trek properties (TNG being the only exception) but it is true that JJ wasn't able to overcome my indifference in those cases.

 

The Force Awakens... The most successful film of those made the year it was released...

You don’t need to be Roman Polanski to make a good Star Wars film.

 

As for the leaks, some things seem more plausible than others, but what I do not believe for a second is Palatine coming back in the flesh... I think somebody in the film will be faking Palpatine is back and pretend to be all powerful making huge terror displays... That seems to me the most elegant way to bring the emperor back. The ST is all about legacy. It is Palpatine's legacy what will be the problem, not Palpatine himself.

 

Then... why bring back Ian Mcdiarmid? "Your journey... nears it's end" goes against someone "faking Palpatine" .

 

Watch MI2 and I'm sure it will make you re-watch the MI3..lol To be fair, JJ rejuvenize the Mission Impossible series. The 3 movies after that has be phenomenal. The last 30 minutes of MI Fallout, was one of the most intense movie scenes that I've seen in a long time. I legitimately didn't know how it was going to end.

 

The most interesting thing in this plot summary is C-3PO being programmed to read a Sith language. The rest is way too much repetition.

 

I want to see some sort of a reverse situation in the Last Jedi when Kylo Ren was ordered to kill Rey, now the Emperor order her to kill Kylo Ren. While I think the thing that tempt Kylo to the darkside is power, I think Rey's is fear of losing love ones.