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The basic plot of Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker assembled from sources.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Himmel, Aug 31, 2019.

  1. Andrew Waples

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    You think leaking constant info would be something fireable, no? If you're production or really any person why risk that?
     
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    I've always assumed that 80% of the "leaks" are directly from Lucasfilm... either to misdirect or see fan reactions.
     
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    Well again am going back to TFA and this time it will be different but what I heard behind the scenes was that quite a few people connected to 'foodles' at the time were laid off before the end of production. Basically they got angry and started leaking stuff in retaliation. Some of the stuff I knew now, I wish I knew then. Its weird because to us Star Wars is one huge franchise and we love it. To others, well it's just another film, just another job, not everyone who work on big productions are actual fans. I don't know anybody as of yet who have lost their job this time around, so I doubt we will have a huge giant leak. Nothing really happened like that under RJ it's probably why KK liked working with him.
     
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    This makes a lot of sense. I remember all of the leaks saying that Luke was Kylo Ren before TFA came out. I was nearly convinced.
     
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    Good to know I'm not the only one who thinks this.
     
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    Somebody likes KOTOR/Legends...either the person who came up with this 'leak' and/or the writers of the movie.

     
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    George Lucas: “I’ve left pretty explicit instructions for there not be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VIIIX. That’s because there isn’t any story. I mean, I never thought of anything! And now, there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn’t at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn’t come back to life, the Emperor doesn’t get cloned and Luke doesn’t get married…” (Total Film magazine May 2008)

    Ian McDiarmid:
    “The Emperor [the character that I played] was too bright not to know [of Darth Vader’s potential to turn back to the side of good and betray him].” “Maybe he cloned himself in time to be in the next movie.” “But, he didn’t! But he didn’t, unfortunately. No, listen, ladies and gentlemen. I’m dead. I’ve been dead for the last 30 years. I can confirm that…George [Lucas] was quite categorical.” (April 17, 2015)

    Ian McDiarmid: “I suppose there must be a chance [I could reprise my role as the Emperor] but I think you’d find out about it more quickly than I would. As far as the new films are concerned, I’m dead. There is no question about that. But there is what they call the anthology series and actually the most recent one, Rogue One, was about the time when I was in charge. I was referred to a few times, Darth Vader popped up, but you did not see me. Maybe they are keeping me as a surprise for later but I have no idea. Of course, I don’t want anyone else to play him.” (September 21, 2017)

    Ian McDiarmid: “Like everybody else, I had no idea what the title was. They did let me into the secret that the Emperor might be laughing, but I have to tell you that that particular laugh was not specially recorded, they found it somewhere. Probably from one of the old movies or in a digital vault or maybe George’s iPhone, I don’t know.” “What I liked about [the teaser] though – that’s why I think it’s a real tease – I mean, the new title ‘Rise of the Skywalkers’ is wonderful and then from the past – maybe from hell – a laugh that comes which sort of implies, ‘yeah, right.’ So in other words, ‘Skywalkers rising? I don’t think so.'” “We love the mystery and we love the great moments of revelation and people seemed to think we had one the other morning [with the teaser], which surprised me. The headline of that whole panel and indeed the trailer is the word ‘tease’, so don’t take it too seriously. Have a laugh about it.” (April 15, 2019)

    Ian McDiarmid: “‘Is [Emperor Palpatine]…?’ And before I could even finish the sentence. ‘Dead, yes,’ [said George Lucas]. ‘Well, couldn’t he perhaps…’ [I said]. ‘No. He’s dead,’ [said George Lucas] ‘Well, wouldn’t it be interesting if…?’[I said]. ‘Forget it,’ [said George Lucas].” (April 15, 2019)

    Either
    1) McDiarmid deceives/lies
    2) Some of the leaks are a misunderstanding or lies
    3) The people writing this trilogy really are just making stuff up as they go along
    4) some combination of 1, 2, and/or 3
     
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    Considering he reprised the role in Rebels, as opposed to using Sam Witwer who did the voice in the Clone Wars (which would make sense), instead they went out of there way to get McDiarmid do to the role. I doubt they would have done that if there wasn't a plan. When they had a very capable, sometimes better to do the voice.
     
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    Again why bring back Ian to do Rebels? It doesn't make sense when you already have Sam.
     
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    They're pretty common around here. Sometimes people get reds for the weirdest things, too. (Last week I got a double-red for encouraging positivitet and optimism).
     
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    Haha thats weird indeed.
     
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    There is a point. They have said that Palpatine was planned from the beginning. https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/201...e-and-potential-old-republic-era-content.html

    "MTV: One last thing for you: the big reveal today. Palpatine is apparently back.

    K: Yes.

    MTV: When you heard that as a pitch, how far back does that go when you’ve heard it?

    K: Oh that goes back to when we were talking about Force Awakens, and you know, just the whole blueprint of where we’ve ended up now has kind of been in the works since then, but there was nothing more thrilling than to be in that room, especially to have Ian walk out on stage. We were waiting to see what that reaction was gonna be.

    MTV: When did you let Ian know that he was gonna be coming back?

    K: We let him know right at the beginning. And he was so gung-ho, he was all for it. He had a blast.

    Unless Kennedy is using her response as a PR (public relations) move to squash criticism that this trilogy had no pathway, it sounds like there was always a plan in place to implement Palpatine back into this story to complete the saga surrounding the Skywalker family."
     
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    Kathleen Kennedy: “[Palpatine] has been in the blueprint for a long time. Yeah. We had not landed on exactly how we might do that but yes it’s all…yeah [it was to be in Episode IX].” (April 12, 2019)

    It's not committal to anything - had not decided...might do it....how.

    Let's roll back to rumors from 2013-2014...it wasn't about the Emperor being alive still.

    Latino Review - ‘Palpatine’ Will Return (But Not As A Clone) in ‘Star Wars: Episode VII’ (August 14, 2013)

    So the newest rumors are either wrong or 'plan's changed. McDiarmid claims he didn't know a couple of years ago.

    Here's some other ones while I'm at it looking at some old archives:

    Latino Review - [George] Lucas Episode VII working titles: Return of the Sith & Rise of the Jedi (October 11, 2013)

    Bleeding Cool - Rumour: Matt Smith Called In For Star Wars Episode VII (November 20, 2013)

    /Film - Rumor: Potential Details Revealed About ‘Star Wars 7’ Villains (June 16, 2014)


    Latino Review - EXCLUSIVE! Star Wars Episode VII's Villains Revealed! (August 15, 2014)


     
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    Oh yes! There's totally a plan/outline to the ST, despite some confusing interviews with RJ and others. Totally! :)

    To bad about the red mark, though.
     
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    Some people in the LFL story group should have ask some advices from the SWTOR story group.

    Obviously.
     
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    I don’t know.... but that is not only about the title.
    To me it sounds like he has not idea of what the plot of movie is about.

    And if so, then he didn’t film anything.

    But, sure, as you said, he may be just deceiving
     
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    He's not speaking from an actor's perspective or his own, but from the perspective of the audience.
     
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    The basic plot of the movie is that it is badass as hell.
     
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