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SPOILER The Basic Plot of The Rise of Skywalker, Updated and Expanded: Act I (Via JediPaxis)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Himmel, Sep 17, 2019.

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    JediaPaxis Source info. All i can say, if these are true, i'm thoroughly disappointed in the tone for this movie. The whole point of the Luke/Leia Flashbacks and force ghosts is to impart onto Rey (thus the audience) that the only family she could ever call a "family" was Luke and Leia (also a little han), so by the end of the movie, she's realised that she's never really been a Palpatine, but an adopted skywalker.

    These changes completely remove that tone from the movie. If this write up is true, Rey takes on the Skywalker name out of sheer embarrassment for the palpatine name. :confused::confused:
     
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    I'd like to remind you that you should have a grain o salt ready when reading this. Don't assume the original/updated JP leak is even accurate.
     
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    an i'd like to remind you that a really credible outlet in MSW is almost backing this up word for word. Just like in TFA when people didn't like "2 seconds of luke", just because it sounds bad doesn't mean it's untrue.
     
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    Fair enough, but MSW isn't 100 accurate either. He once said that the Knights of Ren will be in VIII, fighting Luke. That clearly didn't happen.

    https://makingstarwars.net/2016/05/star-wars-episode-viii-the-knights-of-ren/
     
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    "Cyborg Luke"?
     
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    To be fair, if you look at the actual MSW reports referenced, at no point does Jason actually claim "Cyborg Luke Skywalker is in the movie".
    It was just speculation based on genuine pieces of concept art, presented as rumours with plenty of "could be", "if this is accurate" and other disclaimers throughout.
    I agree, it's really crappy for sites like MSW to blur the line between speculation and the actual leak (ie, "there is some concept art we have seen"). In an ideal world, it would be a straight-up, impartial description of the artwork followed by, "this is what we think this means, but we haven't a clue just yet..."
     
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    I wonder if JJ watched the ending of Blade 3 for inspiration regarding Palpatine's next death?

    Too much dark side, like too much serum? Was my first thot while reading.​
     
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    Anyone find it highly suspicious that MSW hasn't updated anything for a week now?
     
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    Grain of salt time...


     
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    That's not how reshoots work, Jedi. I look forward to watching your Reddit die. So they spent millions of dollars on reshoots? LOL he's covering his ass. Note how much he crossed out of the original version. Here us the Wikipedia definition on reshoots: "In filmmaking, a pick-up is a small, relatively minor shot filmed or recorded after the fact to augment footage already shot. When entire scenes are redone, it is referred to as a re-shoot or additional photography. Both types of shots usually occur after continuity, logic, or quality issues are identified during the film editing process. In other words, such shots occur months after the sets have been struck, the costumes and props have been stored, and all the cast and most of the crew have moved on to other projects. If the issues had been identified during principal photography, the director would simply have asked for another take. Therefore, the director and producer must carefully balance the substantial expense of reuniting key cast and crew members on set against whether pick-ups or re-shoots are absolutely necessary to fix plot holes (or worse) in the final cut."
     
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    Am not making any comments on these 'leaks' anymore. Not until there is any physical evidence. I will keep reading but really it's time to take stock and wait. Besides there is too much vitriol at this current time which I don't want to be a part of.
     
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    I haven't read the updated leak, but I read the comments and I already know this is BS. According to the reddit users who read the leak- it seems like 75% of the movie was reshot and the plot got even worse. Yeah, of course... :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]

    JP and MSW should admit, they got played. It happens to everyone. :p
     
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    Nah, this has gone too far now. MSW needs to explain exactly why he is backing this dude, or come up with something new that expands on some of this s**t... because it's not so much the content, it's the way it's being expressed. He claims to know specifically WHY scenes have been altered? Nope, not buying that.
    A lot of this is still pretty plausible taken at face value, but some of these updates conveniently come on the back of other leaks (Boolio being revealed as one of the figures packaged with the Millennium Falcon LEGO set, for example)...
     
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    At least MSW has kinda apologized for it (the fraud bit), but JP is still hiding behind reshoots/editing excuse.
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 10, 2019, Original Post Date: Oct 10, 2019 ---
    This stuff reminds of SuperShadow of the Prequel era.
     
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    :D I'd say it's light years ahead of that particular craziness.
    If JP has made all of this up, he has at least made an effort to make everything stack up with regards to what is already known.
    Like I said, the actual content is at least plausible - it's the whole "this has been changed because audiences might get confused" schtick. Is that just your assertion or did JJ actually tell you in person why he chose to change this scene...?
     
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    I ain’t buying these alleged “leaks” at the moment, but we’ll just have to wait and see if the trailer confirms or denies what JP and MSW have said. Though I’m sure that any new stuff in the trailer will be things that were conveniently added in during “reshoots”. :rolleyes:
     
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    I could be mistaken, but didn't Plapy and Dark Rey leaks came after they appeared in their perspective trailers?
     
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    I remember becoming more and more skeptical about the KOR on Ahch to “leak” as official material started being released.
    So did MSW, but the train had already derailed.
    However I remember them talking about a possible “ruse” set up by the production team. When in reality it was just them interpreting some not very good pictures while presenting such interpretations as “leaks” (the scenes were filmed, but are those of the festival in the village and of Rey running on the beach that didn’t make the finale cut).
    In short, the “ruse” was an excuse.
    So are imo the re-shoots.

    @Get In Gear Well if someone is poisoning the well... he/she/they may have been playing them both.
     
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