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SPOILER The Basic Plot of The Rise of Skywalker, Updated and Expanded: Act I (Via JediPaxis)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Himmel, Sep 17, 2019.

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    @Kato Sai where is that picture from?

    Beside that... yes agree.
    But I was thinking that maybe the act of atonement and self-sacrifice may not be to save Rey.
    But to save Finn and or Poe instead.

    I am imagining a scenario in which not matter what happens or has already happened with Sidius, there's a kind of destroying device
    that cannot be stopped unless someone kills himself in doing so and Finn and/or Poe are about to do that but he takes his/their place.

    That should prove to the audience (and to Rey) that he has really changed.
    Just because it's selfless thing he may actually do.
    Not only he may realize that Rey sees these people has her family, as the ones who actually cared for her and who "deserve"
    (rightfully) her affection, but he may also acknowledge that they embraced "the truth that is his family" and honored it, more
    than he (or his former self) ever did.

    It would be like... saving metaphorically not the bloodline, but everything the Skywlaker/Solo fought for.
     
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    The picture of Ben with a blue crossguard lightsaber I found on Google. I suspect its a fan made rendering, but it sure was someone who has Adobe skills.

    That is an intriguing Bendemption theory. Instead of fan service of him being visted by Force Ghosts or a Reylo outcome, he dies for the Alliance. His feelings for his mother could play into this; what if Leia leads Ben back to the Light? It woukd be reversal, instead of Luke saves his father, Leia saves her son.
     
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    Absolutely.
    It may really have many nuances.
     
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    I really hope Leia and Ben have a moment, it would be even better if its redemptive. Already we saw in TLJ when Kylo was to bomb his mom’s ship, he couldn’t do it. She has pull.. to bring him back to the Light. Ben kills all fathers and father figures, so his mother very well could be his “only hope” which is ironic because those were words Leia utter A Long Time Ago in ANH.
     
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    I think if Carrie was still alive, a Kylo/Leia scene definitely would have happened and she would have been a major factor in his redemption. However, given that Carrie has passed and they are using old footage, I don’t think we are going to see it happen.
     
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    Another match guys...

     
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    The easiest way is if Adam Driver and Carrie Fisher filmed unusued scenes together that could have redemptive implications. An example would be Leia has a heart to heart with Kylo on Crait or via the Force; and then later in a non-Leia scene, Kylo has flash back of it or you hear Leia’s words and he then preforms the atoning act.
     
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    That was already leaked via Celebration.
     
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    I assume that most of you are aware that the TROS script was almost sold on Ebay. However, it wasn't on long, but the JP stuff still is. So, if Disney is scouring the Internet to take stuff down. I imagine they would've taken down the JP stuff; yet they didn't. That should give some kind of indication on how believable the JP stuff is.
     
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    The difference here is Disney can't take JP's leak down because they don't have the rights to do so. Words aren't owned by Disney, but the script for TROS is. - Yeah, I also don't want the leak to be true, but it seems to be more and more likely that the outline is correct.
     
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    They did take down a couple of leaked images. Disney has been in the that Reddit leak page. They could have taken it down, but they didn't. I imagine the basics are true, but the details are highly sus. While words aren't owned, they certainly can own the details. Especially if it wasn't intended for public consumption. People with that kind of knowledge would have likely have signed a NDA (meaning they broke it by sharing that). So Disney would have a right to take that material down.
     
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    Yes, because the images are owned by Disney, but now words written on the internet. That's my point.

    This is not how ownership works though.
     
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    Assuming the person responsible signed a NDA. Given the secrecy, Lucasfilm probably has a lot if not all employees under a NDA.
     
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    NDA: No Droids Allowed

    I am talking to you Threepio, you big blabber! (c-3po)
     
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    NDA: No Dancing Artoo

    The Resistance is such a buzzkill for not letting him dance. :(
     
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    I don’t think you can compare the lost scrip being sold on eBay to someone reporting second hand information about the movie. Two totally separate issues. Besides even if JP was 100% correct Lucasfilm/Disney would be pretty much confirming it’s accuracy by shutting it down. Otherwise they would have to waist valuable time and resources chasing down every so called leak so as not to tip their hand that one is correct
     
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    Wouldn't that make Anakin her father? Since supposedly Darth Sidious created Anakin. Nowhere does it say he actually had a son, so...silliness continues.

    And the real silliness is that this stupid website here https://www.express.co.uk/entertain...VER-Sly-Moore-Darth-Sidious-Anakin-Mas-Amedda has said the same thing 2 years ago. And they get their news from all people...Mike Zeroh. So JW just spreading BS,imo.
     
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    Here is my Problem with this possible spoiler
    If Palpatine had a son, wouldn't he forgo Darth Vader and train his son as his apprentice? Was his son not force sensitive? The more Star Wars leaks that I read, the more I don't believe them. Maybe Palpatine was married and had children when he was a Senator from Naboo. His offspring didn't appear to be force sensitive, so he abandon his family for power. Yeah, sure, Rey could be a decendent from Darth Sidious, but it just feels so convoluted in the story telling.

    I guess we will have the answer when The Rise of Skywalker comes out.
     
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    I think the leaks from this Star Destroyer rumor ship is purely meant to either:
    a) hurt the film before its release
    or
    b) cause pubilicity and make us fans talk about TRoS and theorize.
     
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