1. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

SPOILER The Basic Plot of The Rise of Skywalker, Updated and Expanded: Act I (Via JediPaxis)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Himmel, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. remiel6

    remiel6 Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2014
    Posts:
    446
    Likes Received:
    553
    Trophy Points:
    6,492
    Credits:
    1,137
    Ratings:
    +945 / 42 / -14
    If you compare those 2 photos, the tower in the background is not in the same spot.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  2. Andrew Waples

    Andrew Waples Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Posts:
    2,740
    Likes Received:
    62,812
    Trophy Points:
    169,417
    Credits:
    29,613
    Ratings:
    +66,942 / 74 / -28
    IF this is the Lars Homestead, what is the JP reason for going there? There could be any number of reasons why it was deleted. Don't assume that it was deleted because Disney told him to.
     
  3. Juniper

    Juniper Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Posts:
    211
    Likes Received:
    357
    Trophy Points:
    2,372
    Credits:
    918
    Ratings:
    +537 / 10 / -4
    Apparently it's the final scene.

    Rey goes there to bury the remains of Luke and Leia's lightsabers (as she has forged her own from their parts) then introduces herself as Rey Skywalker to someone.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  4. Andrew Waples

    Andrew Waples Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Posts:
    2,740
    Likes Received:
    62,812
    Trophy Points:
    169,417
    Credits:
    29,613
    Ratings:
    +66,942 / 74 / -28
    Does the JP leak say how she knew about the Lars Homestead in the first place?
     
  5. Ivanhoe1972

    Ivanhoe1972 Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Posts:
    107
    Likes Received:
    203
    Trophy Points:
    3,447
    Credits:
    775
    Ratings:
    +343 / 3 / -1
    The ST isn't big about giving explanations about how or why things are the way they are, you just have to like it cause it's cool or nostalgic. If you don't you're toxic...
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Off Topic Off Topic x 1
  6. techsteveo

    techsteveo Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2014
    Posts:
    2,349
    Likes Received:
    3,738
    Trophy Points:
    13,667
    Credits:
    5,410
    Ratings:
    +6,677 / 297 / -173
    It's not even nostalgic when you put it in context. Luke trashed talked Tatooine every chance he got. Even in ROTJ he's like "There's nothing to see, I used to live here you know". He wasn't at all sentimental about that place.

    Leia has never been to the Lars Homestead so her lightsaber being buried there is like me burying my action figure collection at my step-aunts house I never visited.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 9, 2019, Original Post Date: Dec 9, 2019 ---
    Rey knows everything man. Just go with it. That's what Disney wants. :D
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 2
    • Old News Old News x 2
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  7. Andrew Waples

    Andrew Waples Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Posts:
    2,740
    Likes Received:
    62,812
    Trophy Points:
    169,417
    Credits:
    29,613
    Ratings:
    +66,942 / 74 / -28
    Can we not do this now.

    Yeah well when you respond with sarcasm/generalizating like this are you really that surprised? Here's a thought. Maybe don't respond to things that you hate with toxicity and you won't get toxic respones in return.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Friendly Friendly x 2
  8. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    May 28, 2019
    Posts:
    1,525
    Likes Received:
    12,389
    Trophy Points:
    90,592
    Credits:
    9,054
    Ratings:
    +13,749 / 19 / -5
    Indeed! Bastila is among my favorite Legends chatacters. Yellow to me would symbolise Rey is pure in the Force; i.e. Light (Ashla).
     
    • Like Like x 2
  9. Juniper

    Juniper Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Posts:
    211
    Likes Received:
    357
    Trophy Points:
    2,372
    Credits:
    918
    Ratings:
    +537 / 10 / -4

    Hmmm, Would be pretty tough for her to bury Leia’s somewhere at Alderaan, to be fair....

    ‘Burying’ Luke and Leia there together is symbolic enough for me, given Tatooine is where it’s all started with Anakin - and their grandmother is buried there too.

    Ps. It’s a film. Lighten up
     
    • Like Like x 2
  10. techsteveo

    techsteveo Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2014
    Posts:
    2,349
    Likes Received:
    3,738
    Trophy Points:
    13,667
    Credits:
    5,410
    Ratings:
    +6,677 / 297 / -173
    It's so much more to people than a film and Disney realizes that. I don't take it seriously, but bad choices are bad choices. Rey going to Tatooine to bury a saber we never saw Leia use makes no sense to me. Luke didn't have any sentimental attachment to Rey's saber. He built a new one and moved on. The second time he threw it over his shoulder. It's just a useless scene in my opinion. We will see I guess.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Juniper

    Juniper Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Posts:
    211
    Likes Received:
    357
    Trophy Points:
    2,372
    Credits:
    918
    Ratings:
    +537 / 10 / -4
    I’d suggest you wait to see the film and see if it changes your viewpoint.

    IF the leaks are true then we’ll see Leia’s Saber appear in the film a few times, which is more than enough time to have an emotional connection to Leia placed on it.

    I do agree with Lukes Lightsaber though. Still miffed we haven’t seen an explanation to Luke’s ROTJ one pretty much being ignored - other than in a couple of flashback scenes in TLJ.

    What happened to it? Pretty sure it will only be explained in a comic at some point which is a shame if so.

    I still do see Rey’s as the Skywalker saber though, given it was made by Anakin and then passed down to his Son and then wanted by his Grandson.

    I can see why they have done what’s rumoured to be the final scene.
     
    #571 Juniper, Dec 9, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2019
  12. Jedi MD

    Jedi MD Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2014
    Posts:
    3,567
    Likes Received:
    7,823
    Trophy Points:
    88,637
    Credits:
    18,294
    Ratings:
    +11,099 / 60 / -6
    If I remember correctly in the TLJ novel it is in safe keeping with the Caretakers on Ach- to
     
    • Wise Wise x 1
  13. Ivanhoe1972

    Ivanhoe1972 Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Posts:
    107
    Likes Received:
    203
    Trophy Points:
    3,447
    Credits:
    775
    Ratings:
    +343 / 3 / -1
    Do I hate the ST? Or are you stereo-typing? Generalizing yourself? Don't presume to know what I think about things. I don't hate the ST. I don't like it, but i don't hate it. I used the word toxic to emphasize how overused it is. Disagreeing with the direction of a stupid movie franchise does not make one toxic. If you can't voice an opinion then what does the internet exist for? If you don't like a comment, why respond?

    Enjoy TROS. I mean that sincerely, in case you're wondering.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  14. Andrew Waples

    Andrew Waples Jedi General

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2018
    Posts:
    2,740
    Likes Received:
    62,812
    Trophy Points:
    169,417
    Credits:
    29,613
    Ratings:
    +66,942 / 74 / -28
    For the record, if that genuinely was the tone then I apologize. You never actually said that.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  15. Darth Wardawg

    Darth Wardawg Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Posts:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    3,217
    Trophy Points:
    12,667
    Credits:
    4,347
    Ratings:
    +4,130 / 71 / -22
    Same. I think the problem with all of this was in the decision made, quite early on, to not use the Lucas outline. The other problem, and this is more of a sin that throwing out the Lucas treatments, was insisting on films coming out every other year starting in 2015, especially considering the fact that they essentially had to start off all over again with the story. If I were Disney, I'd have said, okay film releases should be: 12/2016; 12/2019; 12/2022. This gives them more time to figure everything out and have all of the writers work together.

    Yes, I know, the OT wasn't planned out. But, you had one creative person driving the thing. Yes, you got a different director on each film, but George was running the show.

    I'm not willing to say the ST is a bust, as I've not seen IX yet. I'm hoping that somehow it does all tie together, tie up the 9 film arc while not destroying the story of Anakin as the "chosen one" who brought balance to the force. The leaks make me worried, but at the same time, I feel like the leaks can't do justice to the film. I keep thinking: imagine what a leak or leaks might have been for Empire. "Okay so we get the abominable snowman attacking Luke. Then there are these dinosaur-looking things attacking the rebels. Oh, and Luke is trained in the force by a frog who kind of sounds like a cross between Kermit and Miss Piggy." Yikes!!!! So while part of me is worried as hell, another part is excited to see what JJ came up with.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 9, 2019, Original Post Date: Dec 9, 2019 ---
    I would disagree. Here is Bob Iger as quoted in the Hollywood Reporter:

    "George immediately got upset as they began to describe the plot and it dawned on him that we weren't using one of the stories he submitted during the negotiations," Iger writes. "George knew we weren't contractually bound to anything, but he thought that our buying the story treatments was a tacit promise that we'd follow them, and he was disappointed that his story was being discarded."

    Did they take elements from them? Yeah. Did they use them in the way most people would understand it? No. They took the story, by their own admission, in a different direction. Using a name or two or making the protagonist a female isn't the same as "using his story outlines."

    As for the return of Palpatine, that is something that came up after TLJ. CT himself has said Palpatine returning wasn't in his versions.

    Personally I don't care if Palpatine's return was planned out from the start or if this is something they came up with since the "big bad" was killed off in TLJ. I just care that it works. That it makes sense. And as far as that is concerned we will start getting some real answers in what, 11 days time?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  16. Ivanhoe1972

    Ivanhoe1972 Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Posts:
    107
    Likes Received:
    203
    Trophy Points:
    3,447
    Credits:
    775
    Ratings:
    +343 / 3 / -1
    It's all good. These are testy times in Star Wars land and an internet post doesn't always offer context. Enjoy the movie!
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  17. Spursfan77

    Spursfan77 Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2015
    Posts:
    71
    Likes Received:
    89
    Trophy Points:
    782
    Credits:
    531
    Ratings:
    +149 / 25 / -3
    Have Lucas’s story treatments ever been made public?
     
  18. techsteveo

    techsteveo Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2014
    Posts:
    2,349
    Likes Received:
    3,738
    Trophy Points:
    13,667
    Credits:
    5,410
    Ratings:
    +6,677 / 297 / -173
    No and I doubt Disney ever will. It would just fuel the second guessing of their trilogy.

    The biggest thing that bugs me is this marketing campaign and narrative that this film has to "wrap up 9 films". NO NO NO! And they know it's bantha poodoo when they say it. ROTJ wrapped everything up PERFECTLY! You don't undo ROTJ so you can have an ending to your trilogy!

    It tells me they are NOT excited to tell stories with Rey, Poe and Finn in the future. If they were this would not be marketed as the end. Now they use it to raise interest since they are scared of the backlash they have received. Don't think for one second that the TLJ backlash hasn't had an effect on Rian getting a rubber stamp on a new trilogy of his own. If TLJ had a reaction like The Mandalorian, they would be announcing it yesterday!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Darth Wardawg

    Darth Wardawg Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Posts:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    3,217
    Trophy Points:
    12,667
    Credits:
    4,347
    Ratings:
    +4,130 / 71 / -22
    I think this entire thing is a mistake. Why does this have to be the end of the "Skywalker saga"? I truly believe it is just the end until it isn't. Just like we heard in 2005 that Revenge of the Sith was the end of the story, until suddenly George had ideas about 7-9. Why does this have to be the end?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. stephied

    stephied Rebel General

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2014
    Posts:
    164
    Likes Received:
    373
    Trophy Points:
    4,372
    Credits:
    1,078
    Ratings:
    +502 / 3 / -0
    I don't mind the burying the lightsabers of Luke and Leia by their Grandmother's grave, but I do take umbrage with Rey taking the Skywalker name. If she is not blood related, and is not officially adopted, or married to Skywalker, it just rings false. It just feels like that all the other Skywalkers were not worthy of the name, therefore we need a better person to take the name and be the hero. Why would she take a name of a family that has wreaked havoc in Galaxy and could not successfully destroy the Emperor. She should be "Rey from Nowhere" the last Jedi that rid the Galaxy from evil Palpetine and Skywalkers. But if it is true, that she is a Palpatine by blood and takes the Skywalker name, then the Palpatines won, because in the end they took EVERYTHING from the family Skywalker.
    I guess we will see on Dec. 19th.
     
Loading...

Share This Page