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The Basic Plot of The Rise of Skywalker, Updated and Expanded: Act I (Via JediPaxis)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Himmel, Sep 17, 2019.

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    Not to get technical, but it depends on how long it was in the sea water. Having spent over a decade in the Navy, sea water is corrosive as hell. I guess they could solve that by saying it is made of advance alloys, etc.. Although I don't think they will go into that sort of detail, certainly not in the film.

    And honestly I'm not sure I need that. Actually I know I don't need that. I don't wanna hear about fuel and I don't want to hear about them recharging their laser guns (something I remember my uncles laughing about in the late 1970s, "How can they just fire and fire and not reload or something???" LMAO).

    You are right. It is all in the execution. I have a feeling JJ will execute it fairly well, in which case the film might have legs. However, if it isn't executed well... God help us.
     
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    FWIW, I think they may be referring to the fact that - technically - Luke is supposed to have removed one of the s-foil panels from the X-Wing and fashioned it into the door of his hut. Although it's not necessarily explicit in the finished film...
     
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    He destroyed the Sith Lord. But apparently the Sith still had lots of fans and followers. The prophecy was vague and useless. The Jedi were naive for placing so much faith and importance in a prediction. Whenever a Jedi thought they knew the future, nothing but pain ensued.

    Bring on Palpatine vs Palpatine!
     
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    According to the Art Of book, Luke totally destroyed his X-WIng before sinking it.

    VFX art director Kevin Jenkins had this to say in the book The Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi:

    "Rey explores the island, trying to understand Luke's self-imposed exile from the universe. She comes across a cave, sunk at high tide within the base of the island. Here she discovers Luke's scuttled T-65 X-wing, rusted and rotting away in the water. It was set alight before it sank. It shows Luke's commitment to his exile, as he destroyed his only means of leaving the planet."
     
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    I thought the T-70 was just seen in the production artwork... looks like a T-65 in the finished film, and the TLJ Visual Dictionary references it too...
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    Beware guys, the leaks are starting... Already on reddit there is
    A pic of Sith holocron, Rey with yellow lightsaber, and Palpatine.
     
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    Will know if it's real if it gets taken down. One of the images has a weird black bar on and it doesn't appear to be any people there. Of course it's possible to get a shot without people's head. It's just a little weird with that angle.
     
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    The Dagobah swamp is a freshwater body of water, and Luke's X-Wing wasn't submerged for more than a few days.

    Ach-To is a saltwater planet, and Luke's X-Wing will have been submerged for at least 5 years.

    Since saltwater is corrosive, there's not going to be much left of the ship even if Rey could raise it.
     
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    Star Wars doesn't care about science.
     
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    It's not at the bottom of the ocean. It's in shallow water.

    Also Luke's was raised out of a dirty swamp and it flew
     
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    The sailor in me totally agrees with you dude. But, as @Andrew Waples notes, Star Wars doesn't really do science. I am okay with this as long as they don't break the rules of the universe or contradict previous cannon. I hope there is a different way for her to get off the island, however, because as @Chairman Kaga notes, The Art of the Last Jedi states that the x-wing was destroyed.
     
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    I don’t put too much stock I. What the Art of.books say. They are very cool at showing some of the concepts of the movies and some of the inspiration behind them but they are not part of canon. Nothing is stopping JJ from deciding Rey from pulling it out of the water and flying off with it. Some of the hardcore fans might take issue because they know what the Art of book says but the general audience will see it as a cool callback to Empire. That is what JJ would be focused on.
     
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    Where does it say they aren't cannon? My understanding is that unlike under George, there aren't "levels" of cannon. Everything, books, comics, films, are all cannon now.
     
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    There are not levels of canon. I don’t believe the Art of books fall under the material that is included in canon. They are mere concept art books. There is plenty in them that is not canon. In the TFA one there is art showing Rey as Kira. Kira is not canon. Even if the Art of books were canon what happens in the movies still takes precedence. The movie novelizations are considered canon except for where they contradict the movies. The same would be for the Art of books. Even if it is currently canon that it was destroyed, if JJ changes that in TROS then that is the way it is. A perfect example of theirs is Poe and Rey meeting in the TFA novel. That was canon until RJ makes their first introduction happen in TLJ. That is what is now the canon version of events
     
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    And then this gets to my argument they should have never gotten rid of the "levels" as we had with George, because what you are describing is that basically somethings are "more" important (or perhaps cannon) while others aren't. They could have just simply added a "Disney" level and moved forward. They could also then release books in the EU timeline and in the Disney" timeline with the understanding that the only thing which is "cannon" are the films.

    But oh well.
     
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    EPISODE IX THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

    The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast, a threat of REVENGE in the sinister voice of the late EMPEROR PALPATINE.

    GENERAL LEIA ORGANA dispatches secret agents to gather intelligence, while REY, the last hope of the Jedi, trains for battle against the diabolical FIRST ORDER.

    Meanwhile, Supreme Leader KYLO REN rages in search of the phantom Emperor, determined to destroy any threat to his power....
     
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    Of course holding of on full judgement but seeing a few reactions saying the film is very rude to TLJ makes me pretty not happy.
     
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    Things are looking up. Campea was not happy with the movie and I was under the impression he was a big TLJ guy too. The Kylo center trailer had me really going so I am getting way more hyped now.
     
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    Most of the reactions that I've seen that are critical of the film's relationship to TLJ are associated with the website IGN, so I don't think their opinions actually represent a wide sample of how the movie actually treats the revelations and plot developments from TLJ.

    Also, it should be kept in mind that the first reactions being shared are only opinions, and that what Rian Johnson chose to do in The Last Jedi was not a surprise to IN Abrams in any way.
     
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    That's the whole problem with the SW canon. It was originally sorted out after the fact. Which is technically what a true canon is - scholars going back, studying a body of work and assessing it with regards to it's relevance and validity.
    Now it is just a dictatorship.
    It definitely worked better with everything categorised, with the films sitting there at the top and everything being derivatives, trickling down through varying degrees of importance.
     
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