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The Basic Plot of The Rise of Skywalker, Updated and Expanded: Act I (Via JediPaxis)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Himmel, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. DigificWriter

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    The old 'tiered Canon' system was an illusion; nothing actually mattered other than the films and television series.

    On the topic of TRoS, I'm really intrigued by the leaked Opening Crawl and can't wait to see it on the big screen with the classic Star Wars theme playing as accompaniment, and if the Exogol scenes we've seen in the newest TV spots do happen right after the crawl, Lucasfilm just might have saved the very best opening for last.
     
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    Welp, how can you call it the Skywalker Saga if the last blood relative dies?
     
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    Because Rey takes on the legacy.
     
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    Why isn't there a spoiler tag here?
     
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    Because the entire thread is marked for Spoilers.

    Yes, some people are still using Spoiler tags , but many others aren't. :)
     
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    And the current idea of canon appears to be an illusion if nothing but film/tv counts so... ;) Fixed it for ya @DigificWriter

    I think the leaks are, it is now safe to say, accurate. I will wait to see what I think when I view the film, but as someone who teaches high school girls, I vehemently disagree with Reylo. I don't care if it's just a kiss, and he saved her, blah blah blah. I see too many young ladies who have this idea that their "bad boy" can be saved. Too many of them stay in these toxic relationships, and I think the last thing they need is to see that reinforced in major media like Star Wars.

    Okay, rant over. I hope the execution is spot on, but I'm worried as heck that, at least for me, the ST is a huge miss.

    (emperor)
     
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    ^ The films aren't the only things that count.
     
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    I don't think it's fair to judge Star Wars on real life morals. SW is more about ideals then actuality. Considering Vader got redeemed by only doing one good deed and somehow his other deeds don't matter.
     
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    Haven't seen any mention of Ochee, the purpose of the dagger, of the sandworm stuff from anyone who has seen it yet, otherwise it seems all of the JP outline was pretty accurate...

    Edit: Seems someone has confirmed the dagger/translation stuff goes down as expected...
     
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    But they noted in Bloodline that Leia never could forgive him (I think it was that book) for what he had done. She kept it quiet.

    And yeah I get that it's about ideals, but seriously, is this the stuff we want to be telling young women? I see it too darn often. Young ladies with low self esteem who get into these horribly toxic relationships and continue to believe they can save him. Heck I just saw it over the last month, but thankfully the young lady I'm thinking of, after a year of putting up with this BS has finally realized "I can't change him and I'm done." I can't say how happy I was to see her finally come to this realization and move on from Mr. Toxicity.

    Kathy said she wanted more female protagonists to show little girls they can see themselves in Star Wars (or something to that extent). I disagree that before her Star Wars had a problem with no women in it, but okay, we can skip that disagreement. I do think there is good which comes from having a female lead in the ST, even if I think the character could be better written (again, an argument for a different time). However, I have major problems with this Reylo thing. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's that I'm too close to the ground in this instance. But seriously, this is the message they want to send to young women? I don't know. To me, this is the wrong message to send.

    Anyway, as I've said for a while, I was happy JJ came back. I was hoping he could land this thing. My fears are that he didn't. We shall see. I have tickets for Thursday evening. I just hope this is a minor point in the film that doesn't ruin the rest of it.
     
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    I don't want to annoy anybody.
    I really wish you all to enjoy TROS.
    Sadly however leaks and spoilers, confirmed that this movie breaks the deal for me.
    It's not even a matter of plot or lore.
    It's a matter of personal... "values" for lack of better words.

    I cannot pretende that there aren't things about whom I care less than I actually do.

    Not fun will ever be fun enough, nor story will ever be compelling enough to make me buy or forget
    some stuff. I won't.

    I respect whoever feels differently than me, but for me... it is what it is.
    And it ends here.

    I am very sorry.
    It's been a pleasure to "virtually" meet you all.
    But I am out.

    May the force be you.
    ;)
     
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    He has a scene where Rey casually tosses away the Skywalker lightsaber, only for Luke to appear, catching it and scolding her for throwing something so important away.
    Whatever I think of the actual finished movie, I'm tempted to add on a few marks just for him trolling RJ like that... :p
     
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    I understand your point.

    However, I think is unfair to say that's the message wants to transmit. Star Wars is a fantasy story about ideals.

    I mean, in that perspective, ROTJ would have the message that people should stay with an abusive relative in the hope that this relative would change. That message is pretty problematic for young audience.

    Movies are the main media and more people are more exposed to this than books. Not to mention that audience that read the book is likely older.
     
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    As George Lucas once put it: "It's just a movie."
     
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    It is. That is why - sorry - I can care about it less than I care for other things.
    ;)
     
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    Funniest thing coming out of the reactions on social media/reddit is the number of people complaining about
    Rey's "piss" colored lightsaber
     
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    While I'm disappointed to, I'm still going to give it the benefit of the doubt and see it in full context. Tone is still very important and how it is written by someone can make it sound bad.
     
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    I'm intrigued to see how Rey vs Palpatine actually plays out onscreen...
    Because on paper it just reads like:

    Sheev: "Strike me down. Give in to your hate, muh baby girl."
    Rey: "No. You've failed, you cloneness. I am a Jedi - like the guy I met recently, who was a bit of a jerk to be honest, before me."
    Sheev: "Very well. If you will not be tur--"
    Rey: "Actually. Changed my mind. I will kill you now. Don't see what harm it will do, in fact it's probably the best outcome all round..."
     
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    It's just weird how the reactions don't mix with the leaks. Am I missing something? I'm not going to be the idiot that says they "oh they where paid to say that." Like you're telling me they paid only specific critics, but not others? Yeah that logic makes sense.
     
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    Not sure I get what you mean...
     
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