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The Beauty of Boyega and Ridley Casting

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by AllHailVader, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. AllHailVader

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    Not the biggest Abrams fan and assumed he would Abercrombie and Fitch the casting, but what I like about Boyega and Ridley being cast is they look like regular people. Not models, but regular.

    They would both be able to blend in if they walked down the street, and that makes for a much better people.
     
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    True. It is definitely in line with the OT casting in that way. These are attractive people, but not obscenely so. They real and relatable. Like they could actually be in a situation like this.

    Although its completely superficial, and there's no reason an extremely beautiful person couldn't be in these situations, the relatability factor an have a great impact on enduring appreciation of the characters. That connection can go a long way. Looking at beautiful people in fantastic situations has its own appeal, but that appeal is more superficial and can sometimes make the characters seem disposable.
     
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    They both look great. I do agree.
     
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    Superb post.

    It's like Chris Pine in Star Trek. I just can't buy into that story because Pine just looks too much of a model and too clean cut to be in that situation...and I feared Abrams would cast a Pine as Boyega.

    I don't really get attractiveness, as I don't know what makes someone ugly? It's just bone structure and more importantly...subjective.

    But yeah....if they cast like a young Sharon Stone or Michael Ealy as the two....just wouldn't buy into the story as much. Much better with these two who as you say are far more relatable.
     
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    I find Daisy Ridley extremely beautiful and photogenic, and Boyega is not too bad looking either.

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    In the same breath, let us not forget our hotshot pilot, Poe.

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    Make no mistake, our leads were not selected only based on their acting abilities but also to appeal to people's sense of aesthetics...
     
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    I am the wrong person to ask about someone's attractiveness....especially for dudes, you would need to ask a woman that.

    But I went to a co-ed school in england and live in and out of London. Daisy is like SO many South london girls....she is not someone that you would look twice at...same as Boyega, who actually looks pretty similar to myself.

    I just don't get where people saying Daisy is this amazing looking person. In my view....all three of them look amazing....how do you say Daisy is more attractive than boyega or isaac?


    Don't understand...
     
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    I did some image quick scan on the leads. I found some photos of Oscar Isaac where he looks just like George Clooney, who is considered rather a sexy man by many women. Trust me on this, he is good looking. When it comes to Boyega and Riddley, they both have facial structures that are appealing to eyes. Daisy especially has very balanced facial structure. I think Nathalie Portman was recently voted as the most beautiful woman in the film industry because her face is most closely to the ideal beauty, that is, having an symmetric face. If you look at Daisy, her face is very symmetric as well. I made a quick analysis with an online tool about symmetry of Boyega's face as well; the result was around 90 %. To me that sounds rather pretty...

    Edit. Well, in Boeyga's case handsome would be, I guess, a better word than pretty...

    Edit. And I am not saying that Daisy is better looking. I say that they all are beautiful people.
     
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    What I don't understand is how people get this impression Daisey Ridley looks like she can kick so much ass. Now she does look very fit, but she borders on being a bit waify. Women who can truly kick ass look a lot more like Ronda Rousey, more of a solid fire plug type build which I actually find more attractive in reality.
     
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    I am at a loss....


    So beauty is about facial symmetry? So there is a scientific deduction to beauty?

    I mean, there are people considered beautiful that I don't find appealing....so am I a weirdo? I don't find Portman that appealing or attractive to me....and I don't get how someone is objectively attractive?

    But I guess Gabrielle Union (who refuses to age) or 80's Sharon Stone could be considered objectively attractive.

    Going back to the three...I think they just look regular. I hate even talking of the casting directors thinking of how someone will look like to appeal to the audience.

    It's like Godfather and Pacino. The studio wanted Burt Reynolds, but Coppola fought for Pacino who the studio did not think was "handsome" enough for the role.

    And we all know how it all turned out....
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    No...Ridley does NOT look like she can beat anyone up.

    Same as Buffy. But Buffy was just a male fantasy trip of the "hot chick" beating up vampires and was VERY fictional.
     
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    I know what the OP is getting at and I agree,

    they're all extremely good looking people, but not in an irritating 'oh they're only an actor because they're unreasonably good looking' It's not like in your face like a cliche matonee idol would be.

    I've never understood why actors have to look like models anyway. I'd say Natalie Portman is objectively a bit better looking than Carrie Fisher when they were both the same age but I don't enjoy watching her performances any more

    I'm not a huge fan of what is considered the perfect woman by Hollywood or modeling agencies/whatever. All statuesque and hard looking, striking but not especially feminine.

    btw I was referencing women mostly because I'm a straight male and honestly have never paid much attention to how good looking male actors are, it's just my frame of reference not a sexism thing
     
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    Most leads need to at least be partially attractive or "pleasing" to look at. It just means that they don't have overbearing features (like bad teeth or a huge nose or something) to distract you. The main thing about lead actors is that they will always have clean teeth, a nice smile and clear skin. I don't believe that Ridley or Boyega are ridiculously attractive. Beauty is subjective however you could definitely put Natalie Portman in that "intimidatingly attractive" category.

    Replying to comment above.. most members in this forum would say Ridley is more attractive than Boyega is because most of the members in this forum are men (they are most likely inherently biased lol)
     
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    I agree. I think she looks really frail in the videos. I have some female friends and family members who are/used to be professional athletes, and their body looks totally different from Riddley's. But, then again, this is Hollywood. I always found Gamorra in Guardians of the Galaxy very dubious fighter as well.

    Here is a a random article about female facial beauty. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sci...ientists-find-formula-for-beautiful-face.html I am too lazy to look for scientific articles about this, but, in essence; yes, there is a science behind attractiveness of people... or what is considered beautiful by majority of society.

    Take a note on what I say above on majority of people. It is an average mean of the sample. Naturally, there is always deviation to one way or another, but what these studies say is that there is a majority consensus on what is considered beautiful. You preferences might represent 10 % of the average, and thus mean you have a different taste.
     
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    @AllHailVader

    I don't necessarily buy into the conventional wisdom type thinking as far as attractiveness of male or females. Nor do I buy the facial symmetry thing, as if there would be some type of units of measurement to gauge something as subjective as beauty. To me it sort of reeks of saying a film artistic value or beauty can be measured by box office receipts. Don't get me wrong I understand what they are trying to say, I just don't agree.

    So to each his-her own, and no that doesnt make you wierd at all, just an independent thinker.
     
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    Yes you can explain beauty in a scientific sense however it's not exactly important or relatively true to what each person subjectively finds attractive. Its like with any part of social psychology - they've found that you're most likely attracted to people who look and are similar to you or they will have a list of things that have proven to make relationships last longer. These scientific explanations may not hold any importance to you because you will always have a subjective experience and that experience will always influence how you view these certain scenarios. What I'm saying is a lot of scientific theory will never be a factor of influence on many many people especially if it is about things that you have felt, thought or experienced yourself.
     
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    C'mon, they are all attractive. But, I agree, they are not drop-dead-gorgeous, all-heads-turning, people-swooning beautiful. You can identify with them easily.

    Then again, Harrison Ford was one of the handsomest men in the world in the OT, but we didn't fail to identify with Han Solo. It is personality that works on the audience (one way or another), not the looks. While Pine (this was an example) is a solid actor, he does not have 1% of Ford's personality. Naturally, then his looks would be distracting.

    More important than their looks is the chemistry they have - at least off screen. All three of them look like they are getting along gloriously, they are cute together and I have to believe that this will translate to the screen as well. They will woo us with their acting (I hope) rather then their locks or pretty eyes. :)
     
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    Well Boyega was on the short list for the movie from early on. Lucas recommended him for the movie before the sale.
     
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    Star Wars was never about muscle, even more if you're a Jedi, the way you look is irrelevant, i understand that kind of Judgement in most movies Universe, but in Star Wars makes no sense.

    Also i don't get this feeling about daisy, if you check her Instagram account, the girl can lift, she is doing some serious work, and if her style of fight need to be agile and almost acrobatic like (wink wink double blade lightsaber) i wouldn't buy if she was buff.
     
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    I agree with the OP regarding the look of the 3 leads. Boyega has that young Denzel, full of confidence look. I never really like watching a movie with Brad Pitt, Angelina, Tom Cruise, or Clooney any more because they've become so famous for being good looking that you never get into their character very well. You never forget they are who they are. But, when you watch a more unknown actor, it makes it more enjoyable from an audience transcending point of view. I somewhat brought this up in another thread where there's a video of Daisy working out. I miss the days where actors looked like everyone else. Most of the great films of the 70s and 80s actors were more relatable because they didn't have six pack abs and perfect white teeth. I think many of the actors from the past wouldn't get a gig today because they aren't "attractive enough".
     
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    You can seriously say that she isn't gorgeous? with a straight face?
     
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    I think they all look above average in the looks department, especially Poe.
    That said, yes it's nice they went for 'real' people.
     
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