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The big spoiler review thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Mr Hux, Dec 12, 2017.

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    That was the cheesiest part of the movie. Aside from Leia flying through space with nothing to protect her.
     
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    Can some one explain how the ship had 18hours of fuel but at the same time Rey seemed to go through 2 night cycles on her planet? 4 hour days?
     
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    Saw the movie today.

    For me, this film was like Battlestar Galactica + Lord of the Rings + Dragon Ball

    Overall:
    Better than TFA in the way that really took new directions for the saga. The tone of the movie (very dark but very funny at moments) is unique and uncomparable to any other saga film.


    TLJ put more social themes on the table than any other SW film IMO:

    - That nature matters and always wins.
    - That society is hypocrite and the elites participate on war without getting the hands dirty and benefiting from it.
    - That absolutely everyone can be a hero.
    - That religion is a tool and evolves with people, and you don't need to stuck on its origins.

    I also find quite curious the female references that are in Ahch-to. The obvious one is the alien from which Luke sucks milk, but also the nuns, and this:[​IMG]

    For what I see in Ryan Johnson filmography I don't think this is just coincidence. He filled Achc-to with female refferences for one reason or another. Maybe cause the Jedi religion was born there.

    Then there's Yoda... That was the weirdest moment in the film. Nostalgics as myself were begging for a puppet when the CG Yoda came, but this puppet was really odd, it looked like a muppet show parody. What's the deal with Yoda? Why is it so hard to have it right? Just reminded me of when I saw Yoda in SW Rebels, same feeling.

    Rey being a nobody (or anybody, as someone in this forums corrected) was surprising for me. I like how it ties-in with the "anybody can be a hero" theme in the film, but i'm still not sure that this will just be left like this: still many questions on the surface: why are Kylo and her so well connected? and even if she's anybody, the Skywalker saber calling to her. Was just a coincidence? And the force back from VII still has details not filled: who's Kylo killing in the rain? is that a Knight of Ren? Where are the Knights of Ren in all this??

    I wasn't expecting at all Snoke death, it was really surprising to me, and I'm sad cause the character was very promising.

    Leia: for what she brings to the story: that moment in the void could have been a great end for the character, but I understand they were keeping her for the IXth film, which really saddens me cause the final conversation with Rey pretty much evoque that. She was probably the key to bring back Ben to the light. She's the one struggling with that idea since VII.

    Loved Gareth Edwards cameo in Kraith :D

    The bb8 sketch with the coins is absolutely great.

    Rose and Finn: Great duo (better than Finn Rey). I think it was too close that Finn dies as a hero. So close, that Rose saving him actually felt unnecessary. In the other hand makes me happy that they are both around for IX.

    Didn't like at all Luke's look from the past. Being a key moment, that flashback looks bad and performance isn't great IMO.

    I loved the way they played with Luke in the third act, and I was silly enough to be asking myself "how did he get there? Did he had time to cut his hair?", therefore I enjoyed the twist by the end. In fact, we see him the way Kylo and Leia remember him.

    This is my messy review for now.
     
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    Easy. Rey and Lukes story doesnt happen at exact time as the other storyline.
     
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    Rian Johnson decided to use Yoda just to tell us that Rey is a Mary Sue.
     
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    The concept of "explaining" and "canon" no longer matter. It's all about making hipster movies for film critics who are titillated by them and talk about them like it's their new handbag.
     
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    There is absolutely no logic in the movie. Don't search or try to explain, you'll get an headache.
     
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    all the talks to Kylo would say it does...

    Rey is having those force convo's during the time line...
     
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    Not just that: if ships can leave the mothership so easily: why they don't send another group of rebels (besides finn and rose) in a parallel mission to just find fuel?
     
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    Dude you are nitpicking here, you are complaining about a time discrepancy of what? 2 days? In TFA when The planets in the Hosnian system blow up they could see it from Takodana in real time with their own eyes.
    You have to shut down your brain before watching these movies.
     
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    The biggest redeeming quality of this film are the performances of the actors, and the technical people (CGI, sound, camera etc.) deserve praise for the hard work they have done.
     
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    Can someone explain the great mainstream reviews in a serious way? It is not an awful movie but the mainstream people seem to think it is a masterpiece. I just dont get it.
     
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    Here is another one.. how did that 1 rebel ship take out the whole fleet when it jumped to light speed?

    Why didn't the first order just send wave after wave of Tie fighters and finish off the rebels...

    why didn't the first order call in support ahead of the rebels...
     
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    I’ve not seen the film yet (tomorrow night) but I see some complaining about Luke being portrayed with God-like powers. I’m assuming the Force projection is the issue?

    Okay.

    Did y’all forget about Dark Empire where he totally does the EXACT same thing? Sure, it’s portrayed as a Dark Side power there, but why? What evil thing does it do? And why couldn’t it be a Light Side power in this continuity? I just have a hard time with complaints about things that are actually based in the pre-established lore.

    I’m still looking forward to it. Despite the negativity. I’ll make my own judgment.
     
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    The rebel ship was going to fast for the FO to catch them up lol. It was said. I found it ridiculous. The rebel ship was smaller so faster.
     
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    If they want Hamill as a Force ghost for IX, I think he should just reject it.
     
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    Dark Empire is not canon and has nothing to do with the films.
     
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    I know it’s not canon. Who cares? It wouldn’t be the first time LFL dug into the EU and pulled something out to BE canon.
     
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    According to the rules of engagement treaty signed between the resistance and the first order every star ship is designed with the same exact top speed, even the fighters. Also, ambushing a retreating enemy by sending an alternate force to their path is considered cheating and the FO would have been disqualified.
     
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    Also: The crawl says that Snoke is deploying all his armada around the galaxy: Why on earth the ship of a Supreme Leader goes on a battle, when the only existing resistance is that few group of fighters? Shouldn't be more intelligent to simply send regular Destroyers for such a tiny rebellion?
     
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