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SPECULATION The Chosen One

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by MarsPhoenix, Oct 20, 2019.

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    It does for the Dark Side of the Force. (emperor)
     
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    Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you
     
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    The Dark Side is my ally. The Jedi were the ones who persecuted us First:

    “It is likely you are aware of our long, terrible war with the Jedi Knights, which lasted more than a century. Yes, I was once a Jedi, a defender of the Republic, as were most of my brethren, but one must learn to crawl before learning to walk. Unfortunately, the Jedi have been walking on their treadmill of contentment for so long that most had forgotten what it was like to leap. When a cadre of more ambitious Jedi opened themselves to the dark side, they discovered the Force could be used to bend life itself … well, that was the leap we had to take. So envious were the Jedi Knights of our ability to transform creatures into improved manifestations, they made it their ongoing duty to hunt us—the Dark Jedi—wherever we attempted to experiment and practice our knowledge. It is regrettable that we could not persuade more of our persecutors to join us in darkness,” (Jedi vs Sith, Windham).

    The Jedi feared our reforms:

    “Facts are few about the events that led to the First Schism, when the relatively young Jedi Order went up against the first organized band of Dark Jedi. We know that it was in approximately 24,500 B.B.Y. that a faction of Jedi Knights renounced the ancient Jedi Masters and experimented with new ways to use the Force. Apparently frustrated by the rigid teachings of their former teachers, these rebels celebrated their freedom by giving in to their passions and emotions, and touching the power of the dark side. They called themselves the Legions of Lettow, and they were led by General Xendor, a powerful Force-using humanoid whose origins remain unknown. The Jedi Council, enraged at this act of disobedience, declared war on the general and his followers. The Jedi emerged victorious.“ (Jedi vs Sith, The First Dark Legion, Windham).

    These histories are in the annuls of the Jedi Order.

    The guilt and blood is on the hands of the Jedi who have hunted us Dark Jedi for eons and sought to destroy us, “destroy the Sith we must.” (Yoda, ROTS). So much for “there is peace..” Ha, peace through genocide of us Sith and Dark Jedi.

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    Speaking of the Chosen One:

    “THE CHOSEN ONE RECORDED 40 A.B.Y. AUTHOR: TIONNE SOLUSAR Because some Jedi have been able to use the Force to anticipate possible future events, it is not surprising that Jedi records relate various accounts of prophecies. The Great Holocron contains many references to the prophecy of the Chosen One: A Jedi will come To destroy the Sith And bring balance to the Force. Records are unclear about this prophecy’s exact origin, or whether the above words were the actual prophecy or a concise interpretation. Several accounts indicate that the prophecy was the subject of debate as far back as twelve hundred years ago, but it may in fact be much older. However, records do establish that approximately two hundred years before the Battle of Yavin, Jedi Masters became aware of an abrupt change in the shape of the Force, and many believed that a looming sense of dread pointed to the growing power of the dark side; some Jedi suggested that the Sith had returned, while others—maintaining that the Sith were extinct—dismissed this notion. But as time passed without any indication of Sith activity, the Jedi Master Yoda proposed that the gathering darkness was a sign of the coming fulfillment of the prophecy of the Chosen One. According to Master Yoda via the Great Holocron: Fully defeated by just anyone, the dark side cannot be, but only by the Chosen One. And who might be this Jedi? Know I do not, but not yet born is he or she. This much, sense I can. A vessel of pure Force the Chosen One will be, more powerful than any Jedi in history.” (Jedi vs Sith, Chosen One, Windham).
     
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    Ditto mate. I posted here years ago my theory on the Chosen One prophecy. In short, the force started to balance itself when Anakin sacrificed himself for Luke and in EP IX Anakin would lead Ben into balancing the force by destroying the Sith.. hence prophecy fulfilled.

    As a big SW fan i can't express how disappointed enough that 3 of the best elements of the prequels were not used in EP7 and 8, imo, missed oportunities... Anakin (arguably one of the best SCIFI characters ever IMO), Kenobi and the Jedi Temple.

    Wishful thinking but I'd totally geek out to see Rey or Kilo visit the old temple on Coruscant looking for something (remember the Temple was intact and the lights were on during the celebration scene at the end of ROTJ
     
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    I'd like to see HC again too, but I hope his role in defeating Palpatine will be necessary but minor, our new heroes (and villains) should really get their win.
     
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    Just wanted to throw this in about the chosen one...Yoda said in the prequel trilogy regarding the chosen one that "misread the prophecy may have been." Anyone think this will come up in the Rise of Skywalker? Just putting it out there for discussion. :)
     
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    Why couldn't Disney leave the Chosen One prophecy alone? Why? Why couldn't they create a new story line for Rey and Finn? Why go over old ground in order to revise Lucas' story? And in such an incompetent manner?

    George Lucas had made it clear after the release of "Revenge of the Sith" that Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One. But no . . . Lucasfilm and Disney had to rewrite it because they lacked the imagination to create something new for this trilogy. Disney and Lucasfilm couldn't even portray the Force right. I'm just so disgusted with the Sequel Trilogy. Disney and Lucasfilm should have stuck with stand alone films. Because they are definitely incapable of creating a serial or trilogy when it comes to Star Wars.
     
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    Gee, when did they do all this?
     
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    Yes indeed. Bringing balance to the Force does not mean the Jedi triumph. Anakin was an intrument of the Sith’ari, to cleanse the galaxy of the numerious Jedi! He is Jed’ari, “destroy the Jedi so that they may ressurect to perfection!”

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    I have to agree. So far my favorite films have been the stand alone. I love Rogue One, and I enjoy Solo. I have probably said it before, but I think they should have been more careful when moving forward with 7-9. But oh well, what is done is done.
     
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    I agree with this statement as well.
     
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    After rewatching Episodes I-III and the Mortis Clone Wars Episodes, I think it’s a possibility that Anakin, as the Chosen One, will ultimately destroy Palps and become the Father, while Rey and Ben will be the Daughter and Son.
    Palp said in ROTS that Vader will be stronger than him or Yoda during Their fight in ep III, and since Anakin is the Chosen One to bring balance to the Force, he will finish the job he started in Episode IV. There’s a lot of material there in the Clone Wars Episodes that would play into this, given that the Trinity was destroyed, chaos ensued... now balance must be restored.
     
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    I’m gonna risk a dislike, by saying I really did not like the Trinity arch and what the CW did to the Chosen One Prophecy. I would have preferred the prophecy stay true fo the films and no retcons were administered. I feel the same way about Darth Maul, he should have remained dead. The mystique of his character was ruined by the CW. I love Maul in TPM, but his character ahould have remained purely mysterious and threatening.

    I did love the Order 66 arch, Ahsoka being hunted by the Pre-Empire and on trial before the Jedi, the Clone training sessions, and etc.
     
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    i can understand your position, And I do not think Ep IX will be anywhere near as detailed in the Trinity lore, but I do see Anakin coming to the rescue of Rey and Ben after a long hard fight. It would complete his story arch
     
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    Thanks for understanding. I am very curious to see how the Chosen One will be implemented in TRoS. I would love for the Sith’ari to appear and Anakin returns to challenge him or her. I doubt we will get to see such a confrontation, but who knows.
     
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    You misunderstood the arc then. The Mortis prophecy is completely separate to the Chosen One prophecy, and it is fulfilled with the deaths of both the Son and Daughter.
    Ah, selective memory at its finest.
    1. They did leave the prophecy alone. Palpatine still being alive doesn't contradict it.
    2. Have you forgotten that Lucas helped Abrams and Terrio craft the story for TROS? Lucasfilm stated that they weren't going to do anything that contradicted Lucas' six films. That means Palpatine could only have come back with Lucas' permission.
    3. The canon book Master and Apprentice, which includes the prophecy, makes it clear Anakin is the Chosen One. Disney and Lucasfilm have stated multiple times Anakin is the Chosen One. The only thing that has been retconned is Palpatine's death, not the prophecy.
     
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    The Mortis Prophecy.. please enlighten me. My time is often consumed in the annals of the Sith.
     
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    The Ones are ancient formless beings of great power, force wielders who had ascended to near-godhood. Fearing the effect they could have on the world, the Father imprisoned the three of them within the realm of Mortis. The Son is the embodiment of the dark, the Daughter the light, and the Father balance. If either the Son or the Daughter becomes too powerful within Mortis, it influences the state of the force outside. The Father has to keep the both of them in line. Knowing he's dying, the Father reaches out to the Chosen One, as he is the only one aside from him capable of controlling his children. However, the Son being the embodiment of the dark attempts to kill his father and escape to the physical realm by corrupting Anakin. During this he kills Ahsoka and mortally wounds his sister, further destabilising the delicate balance the Father maintained. The Daughter gives her life to resurrect Tano. With no light to combat the darkness, both Mortis and the outside world are at threat. The Father with the aid of Kenobi and Ahsoka manage to save Anakin and stop the Son, during which both the Son and Father perish, bringing the force back to a more natural state.
     
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    Anakin I remember becomes briefly his future Vader self. It was “invitable.” I still say Vader brought balance by leading and maintaing The Jedi Purge.
     
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