SPECULATION the church of the force has no place in starwars

you're a physicist, that's great!
I still think there is a really important difference, because most of the experiments for gravity are experiments that I could do alone if I have the right instruments(I did many of these experiments at my university, it was cool xD ), while with the force, if I can't use it I'll not be able to prove it myself, and this is something that will make harder to beleave in it, at least for me.

That's true, Lucas should have shown the situation in a different way, he could have put the jedi temple in a planet far away from coruscant, and let the polititians talk with the jedi through holograms, so they would be isolated from the rest of the galaxy, but still have infuence in it, and in case of danger they could have do something.
In this way even if they lead armies during the clone wars(as even obi wasn said in episode 4), not so many people would have been in contact with them.

 

Yes, I agree.

Not to protract this any further, but I believe it is worth mentioning that scientists do often propose and believe things they cannot replicate, observe directly, or prove conclusively.

And many of they will go on to adhere, individually and as groups, blindly at times even, to such debatable beliefs with great faith, be it in their research, their hypotheses, or their theories, even as such things might be, later or contemporaneously, considered scientifically heretical or disproved among certain peers and colleagues.

This is why, for example, the field of cosmology has a variety of theories and multiple theorists as to the origin and nature of the universe. The same is true of psychology, with its multiple theories of the mind, and other scientific pursuits.

Some things only lend themselves to being perceived and understood from "a certain point of view." That's why I appreciate, in terms of exercising critical thinking with regards to observable phenomena and things like the scientific method, Obi-Wan Kenobi's warning to Luke Skywalker: "Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them."

JediMasterRobert

 

1. The creators and writers can do whatever they please in order to tell the story they want to tell. There are no RULES that govern what words are used. It's a movie after all. You probably lose sleep over this, but you really need to get over it. You've made YOUR point. Others have made there's. The horse is dead!

2. Next thing you know, you are going to want them to change the Blaster sound effects because they remind you of one of these...

 

1. I've never posted this picture so check your facts "mate".
2. Returning to this thread is kind of like watching a really bad movie. You want to turn it off, but you can't because you want to see if it gets any better.
3. Maybe you should look at the results of your poll. Almost 70% of the people don't care like you do. Accept the FACT that the majority don't have a problem with the word Church.

 

1. I didn't post it or see it. Sorry if it offended you. I guess someone else must have a similar sense of humor.
2. A discussion gets better when opposing opinions are treated with respect and aren't dismissed.
3. Why don't you take away the "don't care" option then? If you dismiss people that really don't have an issue with the word, then take away the option. Let's see how the poll does.

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Says the guy that has down voted everything I write.

 

The problem is that there were already churches, religions and gods (or belief in gods) in Star Wars before TFA, as I pointed out in my previous very long post. And btw why does the expression ,,church of the force" make you assume that there will be gods in Star Wars? The followers belive in the force, not god(s)... The question you put to vote is already stupid.
So this thread has no real purpose at all.
And if you still have problem with the word ,,church" in Star Wars, you should also complain about ,,temple". Because temple is one of the most religious and earthy word you could ever find. And again, they didnt even mention the church in the movie, and mostly likely neither will the rest.

 

The use of religion in the movie is a complete non-issue. It doesn't matter because it is nothing more than a work of fiction.

Why this is even being discussed is beyond me, kind of like when Starbucks offended a bunch of people because they didn't put snowflakes on their holiday cups. lol

 

Unfortunately the religious focused path has already been set (at least for the Jedi) within previous movies ..monk like robes in the old republic , tarkins comment to vader "...All that's left of their religion " the use of holy (force) ghosts in the after life. With the force been a god like figure and the Jedi (at least in the old republic) devout study, teachings. No matter what mine or anyone's feelings are toward religion and worship the movies already have it as it's back bone... this and politics ..which together have brought about many wars in our own galaxy. ..so a church of the force is definitely isn't out of the question in a galaxy far far away.

 

I think the great thing about Star Wars is there is something for everyone. What is lacking in many Sci-Fi movies is the spiritual and magical aspects of the universe. Star Wars has embraced that in such a way that everyone can relate since there is no single diety, there is the force which is universal. As long as there are living things, the force will exist.

As with any great power, there will be people that will worship and embrace that power. There will also be people that reject that power. There will be people that study that power. There will be people that use it for good or evil. There will be people that think it's hokey and unnecessary. There will be people that never heard of it or believe it' a myth. We've seen all types in the Star Wars Galaxy, which is why it resonates so well with the masses. Everyone is represented, which is a good thing.