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The Death Poll is Catastrophic

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Jaxxon, Aug 5, 2019.

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Who's dead by the end of TROS?

  1. Rey

    5 vote(s)
    9.4%
  2. Poe

    4 vote(s)
    7.5%
  3. Finn

    6 vote(s)
    11.3%
  4. Kylo

    34 vote(s)
    64.2%
  5. Leia

    28 vote(s)
    52.8%
  6. Lando

    8 vote(s)
    15.1%
  7. Hux

    42 vote(s)
    79.2%
  8. Chewie

    6 vote(s)
    11.3%
  9. R2

    5 vote(s)
    9.4%
  10. Threepio

    8 vote(s)
    15.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Jaxxon

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    It's the end of the Saga. Who's going to make it out alive? Vote above (choose as many as you want, make it a Shakespearean bloodbath if your sociopathic little heart so desires!)

    Personally, I don't foresee any hero deaths. I think JJ, with his deep respect for the OT, will honor the tone of set by Lucas and Kasdan (i.e., this is an adventure serial, heroes don't die).

    If any hero dies, my money is on Finn. They've set too much time setting up Rey and Poe as leaders of the Jedi/Rebellion respectively. It's hard to imagine them going back on this.

    Very likely, Kylo will be the main death of IX. This isn't a hot take by any means. If he dies, I do hope he stays evil. Redemption is a major theme of SW, of course, but it's not the only theme. There's something profound about seeing the good in someone and saving them; there's also something profound in knowing when you can no longer help.

    But the one death I would call 99% certain--and it's one I haven't heard much discussion of--is Hux. He's not deep enough for a redemption arc, and he's too villainous to survive the trilogy.

    Also BB-8 isn't on the list because that's just terrible.

    So who's gonna kick the can in IX?
     
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    Careful IX, with how violent you can get they'll blame you for the worlds problems.
     
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    Maybe Kylo and Hux is for sure.
    The other ones I dont have any idea.
     
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    IMO that's the most unlikely death. Mainly because of TLJ. He had his moment of sacrifice and he survived it. If you repeat this in TROS, then it's boring. JJ is better than that.

    Kylo Ren will sacrifice himself, only to get reborn by the force as Ben Solo. => The RISE of Skywalker

    Yeah, Hux is the most likely death. Even though I would also like the idea of him ending up in prison or in the Outer Rim.

    I kinda want to see Poe dying. R2 would also be shocking, but on the other hand I really want TROS to end with just C-3PO and R2-D2 looking into the night sky.


    @RockyRoadHux and I talked yesterday about the heroes and their counter parts. Every hero has to fight her/his villain.
    Finn vs Phasma => Phasma died
    Poe vs Hux => ?
    Rey vs Kylo => ?

    Two heroes should beat their counter parts and one should be beaten by the villain. Our take was: Poe gets beaten/killed by Hux (#EpicFighterHux) and Kylo should die because of Rey (Rey doesn't beat him though).
     
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    I voted for everyone. It gives me the best chance of actually being right. :p
     
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    But technically, you'll likely be wrong more times than right ;)

    Hmm. Not sure if I really see Hux as Poe's ultimate foe. To me at least, it feels like Hux is so much weaker that the confrontation wouldn't carry much weight. We know that Poe doesn't take Admiral Hugs seriously.

    Perhaps this new character, Allegiant General Pryde, will be a more worthy foil for Poe?
     
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    I'm not sure I could take it if Chewbacca, R2-D2 or the Millennium Falcon were destroyed.
     
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    I still think it’s unlikely that Finn will die, because this would mean no possible happy ending for Rose, and if they kill both Finn and Rose, not only is it a depressing movie, but frankly Disney could be accused of whitewashing.

    Please note, I am not saying “It’s impossible for a woman to be happy without a man,” but since an important relationship has already been established here, Rose would certainly be very sad about losing Finn.

    The ST seems to have a habit of bringing back beloved characters just to kill them, so while I really hope Lando lives, I really wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t.

    I would guess Leia might have died in IX even if Carrie had lived, so at this point it seems almost inevitable. I don’t want Leia to die, but she probably has to. I’m thinking she might disappear/fade away, since this would be dignified and also possible with existing footage.

    Hux probably dies. I can’t imagine they will kill off Rey.

    I can never forgive Ben for what he did to Han, and he is the one character who I really hope dies in IX.

    The biggest question mark for me is Poe. They might want to sacrifice one of the new characters to give the movie some gravitas, but it also seems like they could make some big bucks by using his character in future projects.
     
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    Rey is the most likely to survive because she is the only Force-wielding “good guy” on screen (unless Broom Boy makes a big reappearance in IX.) If Disney wants to keep the Jedi order alive, they can’t kill off Rey.
    I think the only way to redeem Kylo Ren is for him to die. After killing Han, attempting to kill Luke, and having his finger on the button for Leia, there is no other way for audiences to feel sorry for this guy unless he sacrifices himself for the greater good.
     
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    I'm with ya. Hux is a goner.

    Kylo... maybe, but I'm not expecting him to die still.

    And totally agreed about Finn, though if he doesn't die I could also see Poe dying. Definitely not both, though.
     
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    I think it is unlikely they'll kill off Leia now that Carrie's gone.

    Unless it was established from the start, somehow, that Leia HAS to die because of *insert plot reasons*, then I can't imagine JJ and the LFL people sitting down in their grief and trying to figurer out a way to kill off her character. I might be a big ol' softie here but unless they absolutely had to kill Leia I don't think they would even consider it now...
     
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    I second that. Emotionally it would resonate the most. For Poe, Rose and Rey. It is important that victory comes with some cost.
     
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    Fascinated by the number of votes for Leia. I'd like to hear from somebody who voted on her. How do you think they would tactfully handle a Leia death sequence only using the re-used Carrie footage?
     
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    Finn’s sacrificial moment In TLJ was pointless and would not have saved anyone.

    I also doubt that JJ would sacrifice, if the situation asked for it, emotional impact for originality (I wouldn’t want him to either). But we shall see.

    That death would only serve the character of Finn. It could be interesting though for Finn’s development.

    That would be very cool.


    I don’t get this thing that Rey should not beat Kylo... Let’s not forget that Rey beating Kylo in TFA had nothing to do with her being stronger or more powerful but with her believing in herself and not giving up. It was a symbolic win.

    My bet is that Kylo and Rey, in the end, will not fight each other but save each other, and I hope neither dies in the attempt!
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 7, 2019, Original Post Date: Aug 7, 2019 ---
    For what’s worth, I completely disagree. :)
     
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    You know, reading this post makes me realize just how well Finn has been built up. He has a special, unique relationship with each of the other heroes. Best friends with Poe, Rose is infatuated with him and, something that goes beyond a friendship with Rey, even if it doesn't turn into anything romantic.

    And then on the other side, the First Order has actual beef with him and reason to want him dead. It's not just the generic, "Well you're on the other side so you have to die now". He's a traitor, he abandoned the First Order.

    I can't really think of any other character in the entire saga that has that.
     
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    Only Kylo, but instead of having these special relationship with the new characters he has/had it with the heritage characters: Luke, Han and Leia. And all the resistance is against him.
     
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    And I politely disagree. Finn is one character that has been sorely neglected. His story arc in Episode 8 was precisely the same as Episode 7. He did not seem to learn much. Act I: he tries to run away Act II: he’s going on a journey to find someone/something with a friend Act III: He has to get brave.

    On the outside, he’s original; I don’t recall the films have ever showcased a good guy stormtrooper, but filmmakers need to do more with him in episode 9.
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    As far as R2D2 dying (or C3P0 or Chewbacca for that matter,) Disney would be smart to keep them alive. They sell toys, and they have been around from the beginning. They can potentially live forever (I’m not sure how old a Wookie can age.) They are also not important plot drivers for the most part, so they can hang around the heroes in an endless number of future films.
     
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    I disagree with this a bit. In VII, he learns to be brave, but he never learns to stand for ideals. He only goes to Starkiller Base to save Rey. He goes into a coma trying to save Rey. And at the beginning of VIII, he's still just trying to help Rey. It's only through TLJ that he learns to embrace the Rebel ideals.

    Aaaaaand that's exacttly why I think he might die. He's had a completed arc. He's gone from a scared stormtrooper to a brave hero--"Rebel scum." I think we'll see him finally fully embracing his heroic identity in IX--and then he'll die.
     
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    I believe that all of our heroes are safe. Hux is a goner for sure. I believe that Kylo Ren (as well as the other Knights of Ren) will die, but Ben Solo will be reborn.
     
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    Yeah, and Rose stopping him by almost killing both was even more pointless. But still this doesn't change the fact that Finn's death in IX would be repetitive.

    It's a matter of basic story telling. Him winning is necessary for his character arc. He has to win to have his "coming to Jesus" moment. He's able to kill Rey, but can't do it. His redemption is complete. If he's beaten by Rey, then his redemption is forced by losing a fight.

    Rey will fight Kylo early in the movie and later she will fight a possessed Kylo.
     
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