The Falcon has TWO turrets: or dumb stuff that bugs you

Good point.
Here's my favorite counter-argument for the "stormtrooper effect" theory.

 

Noise in the vacuum of space, it is the same time on every planet in the galaxy, space walks with no oxygen or protective suits, laser guns, aliens, and people who can do magic.

Science has no place in it all.

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In TFA and TLJ the top turret is obviously out of commission because Rey tells Finn to use the other.

I don't remember one of the cannons failing during the Kessel in Solo but don't they use both turrets? Han in one, Beckett in the other?

 

I'm pretty sure that Owen and Ben being brothers was never an official thing. I seem to recall that being introduced on the back of an action figure or something. That's never mentioned in the movies.

Vader didn't return to Tatooine again because he turned totally evile and became the second most powerful man in the galaxy and had more important stuff to do.

Padme didn't die giving birth to Luke and Leia until Revenge of the Sith was made. Before that Leia may have lived with her for a while before being adopted. So that's not a mistake with ROTJ but with ROTS. I'd have to guess that Luke knew that Leia knew she was adopted when he asked about her real mother. Otherwise, yes, she should have asked "What do you mean, my "real" mother?".

Luke witnessed Ben die and had a natural reaction and was sad after. We only briefly saw Luke discover the bodies of his aunt and uncle. We don't know what the drive back was like or maybe burying them before going back.

Ben may have meant that being a force ghost at all was being more powerful than anything Vader could imagine. Being able to go anywhere and communicate with Luke is a pretty big deal, if not spectacularly visually impressive.

 

Sure.
We can excuse in a number of ways, and keep in mind that I honestly don't care one bit about any of this.

That's not really the point, because I also showed that we can explain the "two turrets" issues outside of what the films offer.

The point is that rational logic isn't exactly the reason that things happen in Star Wars.

I could just as well go back through and stick to only each film on its own and find logical issues, and I could equally come up with excuses or apologies to bypass them as issues if I wanted to.

However, again, Star Wars just isn't written that way. It's written for the metaphorical logic and everything else comes a distance second to that at best. No one writing Star Wars will ever think, "So ____ will come in to represent betrayal and...oh, wait, I can't do that because we last saw them a system away."
No one cares. In Star Wars a character can be left behind at a previous location, linger around a while and still end up arriving before our heroes who went in a straight path to the second location.
People can suddenly seemingly forget how to do something they've done before, can suddenly be terrible at something they're reportedly great at, can suddenly excel at something they've never tried before, and generally get away with whatever the script calls for because it's out to set up a metaphorical point and send people on moral epics.

It's not Star Trek. It's a fairy tale. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."

Cheers,
Jayson

 

In TFA they only had two people in the falcon and they did not have time to switch...in solo, maybe they did not know

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...they were introduced as the stepbrothers in the AOTC movie

 

Anakin and Owen are stepbrothers. We're talking about Obi Wan and Owen. They aren't related.

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I'm pretty sure when Han and Luke start firing in the detention block they are shooting out cameras first. They shoot at weird looking black things on the walls. I always assumed they were cameras.

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Not many things bother me about Star Wars but there are a few. It should not be possible for anyone, on the surface of any planet, to see Starkiller Base firing. This is such a JJ Ambrams thing. He did it in Trek too with the destruction of Vulcan, which Kirk and Spock witnessed from the surface of another planet.

A minor nitpick is the vagueness of the passage of time in Empire. How long was Luke on Dagobah? How long did it take the Falcon to get to cloud city?

 

Ok, so here's something trivial that continues to bug me!

On Hoth when the Snowspeeders are attacking the AT-AT's Luke makes a comment which states that their armour is too strong so use your harpoons.

The first AT-AT is felled using said harpoon, only for a Snowspeeder to then come flying in, unleash a hail of laser fire and blow the AT-AT up.

What happened to the extra strong armour?

 

I think it was explained that they had additional shielding, which I believe is shown in the film as glancing off to the side of the armor. I assume they have a directional shielding system similar to a starship. It is possibly fairly new tech by the time we see it in Empire because the AT-ACT's in Rogue One did not have this proper shielding in the cargo variant right before the events of ANH. My guess is that the shield system was somehow damaged after it had fallen due to the tow cables. A giant that size is bound to break a few things when it falls to the ground that hard. We know that the head and neck areas are particularly weaker as seen in Rebels.

 

Just noticed that in the opening of AOTC, after Padme's ship lands and her decoy walks down the gangway, the explosion comes from inside the ship. Seems like whomever wanted to kill her could have done it any time after she got on board. Why wait until she landed on Coruscant? Unless it was for effect...

 

I figure an imperial trooper threw a thermal detonator into the exhaust port of Padme's ship upon it's landing, causing a cascading chain reaction that blew up it's hyperdrive from within.

 

It never bugged me until @Lazarus Dei posted this on another thread yesterday.
Why are they doing this. They know who each other is. Would R2 really treat a renowned general and Jedi master like that or is R2 just improvising and joining Yoda in playing tricks on Luke?

 

Retcon fail is the honest answer.

Like all good religious texts fairy tales, there are parts that just don't make a dang lick of sense.



Cheers,
Jayson

 

Only the top turret is used by Beckett during the Kessel run while Han is flying the Falcon and that cannon is blown off by a Tie Fighter.

So same situation in SOLO as in TFA and TLJ, why not use the other turret when the one has been damaged? I'd get that the top turret might be out of commission in TFA & TLJ especially when the Falcon hadn't been used in years, but in SOLO the Falcon had been completely overhauled/upgraded by Lando.

 

Something that's always slightly bothered me is: How do they actually pilot the falcon? I mean, the fighters are all shown to have control sticks, and I assume the Star Destroyers and larger ships are controlled in a similar way to real life cruise and battleships, but how is the Falcon piloted? There's no control stick (I don't know the actual term for it), so how does it do all those flips, spins, and fancy flying? Even the Ghost from Rebels has two control handles.

 

Have you seen SOLO?

The control sticks are more visible in that film than they are in the OT.

From the OT


SOLO

 

Wow, I'd never noticed those before! And I own Solo but I've only watched it once so far.

 

I think the only time the control sticks are noticeable in the OT is in Empire when Han Solo is escaping the Star Destroyers, just before the evasive maneuvers before the two Star Destroyers collide.

 

The way that R2-D2's colouring changes.

Original Trilogy, his blue paint is a metallic dark purpley-blue with a slight glittery appearance to it.

More recent films, its a standard flat mid-blue, looks like regular hobby or car body spray paint.

Sometimes in EpIV, R2's dome panels swap between metallic and blue panels. Mechanical details on his shoulders swap sides. Basic lack of continuity between various versions of the original R2 props.

R2's dome is taller in the prequels than it is in the OT.

 

There’s something that has always bothered me, and bothers me more now that we know the title of Episode IX. It relates to just how unique and special the name “Skywalker” is in the Star Wars universe. Everything we’ve seen in all of the saga films seems to suggest that it is a somewhat special or unique name.

If indeed the name is special, I’m bewildered by Vader’s thinking in the current version of Episode V. At the beginning of ESB, Vader clearly knows that the rebel he is most interested in pursuing is named Skywalker (“I’m sure Skywalker is with them”). He also believes “the Force is strong with this one.” While this wasn’t problematic in the original version of the film, in the version released in 2004, Vader acts surprised to learn from the Emperor that Luke is his son “How is that possible?” In this current version, the audience is asked to believe that Darth Vader knew that the Force-sensitive rebel who destroyed the Death Star was named Skywalker, but chalked that up to mere coincidence.

I think the only way one could believe this would be a supposition that Skywalker is a reasonably common name. Everything we’re learning about Episode IX seems to suggest it is somewhat a special name.

I will continue to let this small issue go, as I have since 2004, but since this is a thread for venting on these things, I thought I’d share. Does anyone else get hung up on this one?