The Fate of Ben Solo

I love this artwork, Lord of the Rens. Where is it from? It looks similar to the new TFA storybook's style...

 

It would be interesting if he ends up like "Hamlet."

 

Having been forgiven myself, I've thought a lot about what it means to forgive, and how forgiveness relates to justice and--of course--redemption!

...And, I'd like to add that if Han ignited the lightsaber instead of Kylo, we can delete all the not points, and put all the is points in capitals. With fireworks.

In either case, I think Han's forgiveness has already begun Kylo's redemption arc. Han's death won't be wasted.

 

If Han DID ignite the saber then would he have had such a genuine look of shock to his face ?

 

I think he would have had such a look of pain on his face...that had to hurt, expecting it or not!

But I don't really subscribe to the Han-ignited-first theory (although I love it), because the symbolism of the light going out doesn't support it. However, I don't think it was an accident that we don't get to see their hands during the crucial moment. TPTB just wanted to give us some ambiguity so we can make up theories, I guess.

Can you explain more what you mean by this?

I can see emotionally tortured.
I can see having Mommy issues.
I can see ghost-sightings.
I can even see ending up dead.
But if Kylo had a Horatio, I would probably feel a lot less sympathy for him.

 

Choose Light,for me forgiveness means TRUE LOVE.If LOVE is a BIG mystery then Forgiveness is MORE bigger than LOVE because without LOVE you can not forgive.I see Han Solo action saying Ben Solo name LOUD in the air calling his SON on that catwalk no because he was a little distance from him it was because i feel Han Solo saying "I LOVE YOU" in my mind.This part of the movie it was sad and really BEAUTIFUL at the same time to watch.That dialog on that catwalk was so POWERFUL.I have watch a lot of movies BUT NEVER a scene so POWERFUL in my life like this one.The person how think about that scene is a genius.To forgive is a act that come from God.Is a special moment between two persons.The person who forgive someone he have God inside himself.The person who receive forgiveness receive PEACE and LOVE from that person.To forgive is like LET IT GO AWAY from you.Is a weight that we can not carry ALL our life.It hurts and it will break our bones.I will say to end my post:Han Solo REALLY love his son and Ben will turn to the Light side.That LOVE action from Han is ONE big piece to bring Ben to the Light again.

Let the LIGHT be with you .

 

...because everyone dies .

 

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I know some people think the Skywalkers ought to be exterminated for the overall good of the GFFA, but it seems a bit extreme to kill off everyone!

But seriously, do you really think that could happen? Mass tragedy and death is just not Star Wars in my book. I can't see it being Disney, either, especially when it puts the kibosh on future (extremely lucrative) films...

 

Lol no I didn't meanness the skywalksrs... I meant that the leads being indirectly responsible for a mass tragedy that they secretly wanted but regret and then kylo(?) is haunted by it and drives himself crazy which we already see in TFA and it becomes all about the waxing of good versus evil and what constitutes as either or and things like that .

 

Just to clarify, I meant Han must have felt physical pain when he got stabbed, no matter who did it. If Kylo stabbed him, as I think he did, I do think Han must have felt intense emotional pain too in that moment. But with his gentle gesture to Kylo's face, I definitely think Han then died hopeful...love always hopes.

I can't get over the fact that every time I've seen this movie, no matter how many times I've known what's going to happen, I still feel a little hopeful when Kylo holds out the saber to Han!

Dangnabbit, where are those tissues?

 

If I could rate posts, @Light Savior_47, I would give yours a Wise, and a Like, and a Great Post and whatever else there is! I still get chills whenever Han yells "Ben!" To everyone else, he's one to be feared or avoided, or is a creature in a mask, but when Han calls him by his humanizing name, his name that indicates a relationship between them, and his love for him (however inexpertly Han might have expressed it in the past)... And yet Han manages to top even that, by touching Kylo's face at the end. Oh yes...Kylo won't be able to ignore this. It will haunt him and drag his sorry butt back to the Light, heh heh.

It will be veeery interesting to see if Ep. VIII will involve a Kylo-Leia meeting. (I personally am desperately hoping for one at least by Ep. IX!) I think Leia loves her son as much as ever, and she's already proved to be an amazing forgiver... but how will that scene turn out? I wonder if she will top Han's expression of love--without any more death scenes, thank you very much.

 

Yeah, I thought it was pretty sweet take on the movie scene...

and IIRC, that artwork in my previous post is from the Visual Dictionary.

 

Thanks! That scene is considerably brighter than it is in the movie. I wish we could have seen more of the village.

 

If there is really any reasonable way to give him a comeback on the brighter side of the force, I can't really see how, but let's IF..
then he has gone through deepest darkest depths of his soul and manage a redemptation would make him a person with extraordenary live experience, it would make him a VERY WISE person
If this kind of unlikly redemptation could happen, he could go into exile a think over his life..on Ach -Too for example?

 

Excuse me, the Ach-Too thing was just a try of making a little connection to the voting poll and a little side kick to Luke.
Therefore don't get me wrong about Kylo. Personally I would like to see something from him before the End of ST, that allows me to believe in a kind of comback scenario and also "feels" right

 

I like this idea, @JediMasterRobert. In fact, this to me would be a very satisfying solution (I'd settle for far less, but this one's the bee's knees. ). It would be allowing Ben to start over with a clean slate. For me personally it would be an excellent ending on several levels:

1. In a healed Ben, we'd have Han and Leia's legacy restored, not to mention a good if not the only chunk of the next generation of Skywalkers
2. We'd get to see the Force used in new, but more importantly, positive ways. In TFA, pretty much all the conscious and active ways the Force was used were aggressive, invasive, and/or violent. (This doesn't count the "sensing" that Leia, Snoke, and Kylo do through the Force, or what I think is Rey's unconscious use of it at the beginning.)
3. We would have yet another powerful Force for good in the galaxy in Ben Solo. (Luke, could you tweak him a bit so he doesn't go bad again pls k thx.)
4. Leia can have grandchildren.

If anyone could find such peaceful and constructive uses of the Force, it could and should be Luke!