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SPECULATION The Fate Of Ezra Bridger...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Tommo Ren, Mar 7, 2016.

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Will Ezra Turn To The Dark Side?

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  1. Tommo Ren

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    As we near the Season Finale, and with Rebels taking a week off, I think it's time to completely over hype the potential of this Season and discuss the fate of the Ghosts' crew.

    As teased throughout Season 2, do we really think Ezra will turn to the dark side, or are the factors just there as a distraction?

    Could Maul join the fight against the Empire?

    Will all of our Rebels survive?

    Will Ahsoka rejoin the Jedi Order before her showdown with Vader?
     
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    I wholly believe Ezra will turn to the darkside. (Anyone who knows how, make a bet thread and ill place some credits) While they've hinted at it so much it may seem like it's all a ruse, I believe based on Ezra as a character and his emotion that he will turn dark. I also am starting to believe Kanan may die in the finale. (Why make him a jedi?) Kanan's death would also further Ezra's turn.

    I think Maul will "join" the fight against the Empire, but not as if he's helping the Rebels. He'll be facing off with them just as much.

    Ahsoka won't rejoin the order, she also won't die, yet.
     
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    Ezra will dip into the powers of the dark side, but he will not go fully dark. Ahsoka does not need to join the Order. She is already good and being in the Order will not change her. She will die at the hands of Vader in this season's last episode. The rest of the Rebels will survive this season. However, the majority will not be alive during ANH. Hera, Sabine and Chopper might survive but the rest will not.
     
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    I wouldn't mind an "he will be undecided" option in the vote. Like @Darth Daigo ↑, I see Ashoka making a sad exit this series and come the next I wouldn't be surprised if Ezra's shoved into an escape pod or his unconscious body is shuttled away by Chopper at the behest of Kanan before/during his own final showdown with Vader. It could be the other way around but I don't see Disney XD leaving either of our young FS heros as an evil apprentice to Vader. I think either Ezra or Kanan will die "light" and the other will disappear in a state of ambiguity. I too could see Ashoka and Kanan's roles possibly reversed like @Sylair suggested but figure Ashoka's had so much screen time already it is less likely. She's done her time in the Order and has found her own place/self now. (Thats this weeks theory anyways!)
     
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    As teased throughout Season 2, do we really think Ezra will turn to the dark side, or are the factors just there as a distraction?

    Hmm, I think Ezy will flirt a bit more with the darkside a bit more, and it will help him to grow and wise up a bit. Ultimately though, he will be unable to resist the pull of the light...

    Could Maul join the fight against the Empire?

    Well, it's not like he doesn't have a score to settle with ol' Sidious, and probably isn't keen on his aprentice either. Maybe he figures he can become Master of the Sith if he takes them both out. Just because he's a darksider, doesn't mean he can't have goals that align with our Rebels. Still, even if he does align with our Rebels for a bit, you know what's going to happen as soon as those darksiders see a way for betrayal or the Rebels destruction to benefit their plans...

    Will all of our Rebels survive?

    Short answer. Nope.
    Bit longer answer. It's hard to make a show dramatic, or have depth, if no characters die. I personally think Ashoka and Kanan will definately go at some point, though they're 2 of my fav characters. Ezra, I think, will live, but will ultimately withdraw into the background for the main. Not sure about the rest of the Rebel crew. Possibly one or some could go to make room for new character or add some drama in the future? Dunno.

    Will Ahsoka rejoin the Jedi Order before her showdown with Vader?

    What Jedi Order, lol? Nope, she seems to have risen above labels and seems centred doing her own thing and playing by her rules. I could see how she might reflect on how her leaving the Order may have influenced Anikin's choice to leave though. Maybe she sees herself as a Rogue Jedi, lol?
     
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    Alright, that is one of the things that sort of bothers me of Rebels is that, as much as I have grown fond of the Ghost crew, I don't know how feasible is for them to survive beyond the events of ANH. I can see the whole crew making it to next season, but I guess Ahsoka won't be so lucky. (The title of the last two episodes sort of spoils it... but we don't know yet which "apprentice" they are talking about!!)

    Anyhow, I can see Ezra having a certain disposition to join the Dark side, but I reckon it might be later on Season 3 (maybe Kanan's death or something like that.)

    Could Maul join the fight against the Empire? One of the things we have learned through the new canon is that even within the Dark side we have different agendas and such so I reckon if that helps his interests, he might do so without going to the light side of the Force.

    Will all of our Rebels survive? They will survive to Season 3 but not beyond ANH. Unless there is some sort of way between ANH and ESB that is unexplored yet and might be included later on the comics...

    Will Ahsoka rejoin the Jedi Order before her showdown with Vader? Which Jedi order? To have her knighted like Kanan's by some Jedi temple guard or the very same Qui-Gon or Yoda? Would be nice but not sure. She has been fighting the evil without being a Jedi so I don't see the point. Unless it is some kind of retribution due to what happened to her on TCW.
     
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    On the crew surviving: other than the question mark of Ahsoka, Kanan, and Ezra due to Yoda's statement to Luke in Return of the Jedi ("The last of the Jedi will you be."), there is nothing that says the other characters can't survive beyond A New Hope. Just because we don't see them in the films doesn't mean anything. The Alliance isn't just Luke and company. It is a large resistance movement. It would be easy for them to be doing other things in the original trilogy and/or simply being off-screen. For example: it is possible that Hera could be one of the pilots in the Battle of Endor. Yeah, we don't see her, but we don't see Poe's mother anywhere in the film, but she's there. I'm not saying that is the case, but I'm just pointing this fact out.
    The fate of Hera, Zeb, Sabine, and Chopper is unwritten without any real evidence to the contrary, so stop writing them off.

    On Ezra's fate:
    WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IS PURELY THEORETICAL. I AM NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS 100% WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I CAN BE WRONG.
    I lean towards Dark Side. The teaser trailer for the second half of the second season makes me think this combined with something else.
    For starters, we know that Ezra will find an old crossguard lightsaber and it hasn't happened as of "Shroud of Darkness" (the last aired episode as of me writing). We also know that Kanan, Ezra, and Ahsoka are going to go to Malachor. And we do know that Ezra will definitely have a major brush with the Dark Side.
    Where am I going with this? Well, thanks to The Force Awakens: The Visual Dictionary, we have an interesting piece of information on Kylo Ren's lightsaber. In the book, it is stated that Kylo's weapon is based on a design that dates back to "the Great Scourge of Malachor". With Malachor, the green-bladed crossguard saber, the major brush with the Dark Side, and the aforementioned problem with Yoda knowing about Ezra combined with the line from Return of the Jedi makes me wonder.
    Some possibilities:
    1) Ezra is somehow connected to the Knights of Ren, possibly a founder.
    2) Ezra becomes Supreme Leader Snoke.

    While I think the first possibility is strong, I kinda doubt the second. For starters, Ezra bends the statement made by Snoke in the novelization of The Force Awakens where he states he saw the rise and fall of the Galactic Empire (not Republic as many have said). While an EzraSnoke could have definitely seen the fall of the Empire, the rise is a bit of a stretch (he was born the exact same day as Palpy declaring himself Emperor), though the consolidation of Imperial power throughout his childhood could allow the statement to be true, from a certain point of view. The biggest problem I have with such a theory is Ezra's backstory and personality. He hates the Empire and I don't see why he would work to restore the Empire as Snoke has.
    We'll have a better idea once March 30th passes.
     
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    It would be a crazy twist if Ezra CONVINCES Maul to join The Ghost Crew after Maul tries to seduce Ezra to join his personal cause .
     
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    See, Ezra will fall, but he won't fall like Anakin did, due to lies, distrust, love, etc. He'll fall because it's needed in his character. He's improved so much in such a short period of time, that he will surpass Kanan within weeks. I say Kanan is seriously wounded, or even killed, and as a result, he'll be overwhelmed by Maul's offer, and will try to learn greater secrets. He's not stupid, so he'll be like Luke when he turned to the dark side after ROTJ in the Legends material, thinking he could learn the power and escape, when he instead was taken over. Rumor is by Season 3, a few years have passed, he's got shorter hair, and all sorts of stuff have happened, so who knows? Maybe it's Ahsoka dies and Kanan dies, and he refuses Maul or turns against him within the hour long episode. We shall see, and I am very excited :D
     
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    I dont see Kanan or Ahsoka dying anytime soon. they will be doing 2 more season so I cant see them just killing off Kanan just right after knighted Jedi. I can see a Kanan vs. Ezra battle like Anakin/Ahsoka battle. I can see Ezra using the darkside of the force but Kanan or ashoka will knock him out of it. IDK I cant wait as well to see what direction Rebels will have with Rogue 1 coming to fold.

    may the force be with you always...
     
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    Maybe he'll die protecting Ashoka from Vader ...
     
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    I think it would be the opposite. I think Ahsoka would die for the crew cause she isnt a jedi and she thinks there is still hope for Vader so I think she would die for the Rebels crew and I can see Kanan die in vaders hands to protect Obi Wan in a anthology. I feel like Kanan will lose Ezra and Kanan might get that sense of knowing that there "is another" or in that fact a presence of the force that is Luke. even tho he might not know or see him Kanan would sacrifice himself to protect Yoda/Obi-Wan. Like to end Kanan's fate by going to Dagoba and meeting Yoda to see how to defeat Vader. With Ahsoka didnt it just seem right that she didnt talk to Yoda but saw him after they ran out of the temple? We will see but I think the Rebels crew is a far interesting series in the SW canon than R1 is going to be. for now Kanan is the only Jedi standing(havent read the comics of Obi Wan) so right now he is in hiding like Yoda.

    May the force be with you always...
     
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    This almost seems to me to be timed very well with Ep VIII. Maybe it's a fluke, but Rebels is going play right up to the release of VIII, and that being said, I could almost imagine Ezra walking off (like Ahsoka at the end of CW) after Kanan is killed and PERHAPS emerging in VIII.

    Now call me nuts but the timing of Rebels (and Ezra's fate) are very conveniently coinciding with the next episode of the saga. I'm imagining one more season of Rebels fading to black just before VIII, then BAM....they find him in VIII. Just a thought that popped into my head. :)
     
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    But wouldn't Ezra be super old by VIII ?
     
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    Ezra is the same age as Luke.
     
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    Same age as Luke....
     
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    just from watching mystery of chopper base today, Ezra made some "punk ass"statements
     
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    As teased throughout Season 2, do we really think Ezra will turn to the dark side, or are the factors just there as a distraction?

    Theory

    I am of the belief that it may be Kanan and not Ezra who eventually succumbs to the power of the dark side. The trailer for the finale next week has a Sith holocron which is accessed by Ezra. When the Holocron is opened a voice makes a statement. It's hard to say from the trailer whether the wording is 'restore life' or 'destroy' as we know Sith in the past have done both. As we have seen from Jedi in the past it is often attachment that leads Jedi dark. It is Kanan not Ezra who has an 'attachment' due to his relationship with Hera.

    It does seem likely that not many of our rebels will survive the show. Therefore I theorize that we may lose Hera next season and in desperation and grief Kanan will look for Sith knowledge to bring her back. This may lead him back to Maul and to the dark side. The foreshadowing of a Kanan Ezra showdown is obvious but I am suggesting it may be Ezra who rejects the dark side and has to eventually kill Kanan. This would be a nice reverse of the Obi Wan/Anakin master and apprentice situation. This would also be the last Jedi being defeated (I am assuming Ahsoka will fall at the hands of Vader) and set up Episode 4 nicely with Luke being the new and only hope for the Jedi.

    I certainly believe that Ezra will flirt with the dark side as they have been hinting but ultimately I can't see the reason for him turning. He neither appears to seek power or has attachment that will lead into fear. If Kanan goes dark I can seriously see Ezra giving up his Jedi training and leaving the rebel group or perhaps he too will perish at Vader's hands.

    Ezra's force abilities with animals are certainly interesting and I think he respects the power of the force. However if his master goes dark as in my theory he may no longer want to wield it as a Jedi. Perhaps Ezra is indeed Lor San Tekka (ages match?) and sets up the church of the force.

    In this theory no Jedi are left when Luke comes onto the scene, we get a nice twist from Ezra going dark, we get a reverse of Obi-Wan/Anakin and we get a backstory from a minor Force Awakens character.

    Could Maul join the fight against the Empire?

    Possible but any co-operation would be short lived. Maul seeks power. He is full dark side. He may try and tempt Ezra and then sneak off into the darkness. Still possibly a founder of the Knights of Ren.

    Will all of our Rebels survive?

    This season yes. In future probably not. Maybe Ezra (as above) if not then probably jus Zeb and Sabine. Hera seems too involved in the Rebel Alliance to not appear in episode 4/5/6 so she will probably go and Kanan can not last based on what Yoda has said.

    Will Ahsoka rejoin the Jedi Order before her showdown with Vader?

    What Jedi Order? No she will not. She left the order and shows no desire to return. She supports the rebel cause and is a force wielder and it will remain that way. She will die at the hands of her old Master Vader. This will help show how immersed in the dark side Vader is by the time A New Hope occurs.

    For the record, I think Ahsoka will die in the 'Twilight of the apprentice' . Some have stated that Maul could be the apprentice but I don't see how that fits considering he is Sidious' not Vader's apprentice.
     
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    [​IMG] upload_2016-3-25_20-52-53.jpeg

    I didn't find a Hera/Kanan facing the screen hug but it is similar to the Han and Leia hug pictured above. These 2 pics probably are just a coincidence in style but probably made/filmed around the same time so it wouldn't surprise me if they did "off" Kanan to further the story of Ezra and his walk down the dark path.

    I have no idea who will be killed in the finale. At first I thought it might be Ahsoka but now, I'm not so sure. It's been established that Kanan is Ezra's master and it would be a more emotional death for Ezra than it would be if Ahsoka had died. So this could push Ezra towards the dark side but not all the way because Ahsoka could see that being a Jedi is where she belongs and can bring Ezra back from the Dark.

    This is just a guess and I hold no responsibility if it is wrong. :)
     
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    Well, Zeb and Ezra were chilling to some electric guitar music and 'artsy' Sabine has a bad influence on Ezra. Does this mean Ezra will become a punk rock member of the Max Rebo band in an attempt to 'woo' Sabine?
     
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