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SPECULATION The Force Awakens is a great movie.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Grand Admiral Kraum, May 14, 2018.

  1. Grand Admiral Kraum

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    I'm not going to get into how I felt Rian potentially ruined this trilogy (oops I just did) but I feel that fans need to appreciate the effort J.J. put into Episode VII.

    Everything from the creature poking his head up in the desert, to the excellent use of modern camera techniques and subtleties of the lighting.. it felt Star Wars. The scene with Han talking to Kanji Klub felt very Return of the Jedi. That's what they wanted to do, and the execution was fantastic.

    The use and non-use of music was spot on, there were moments in this film which didn't use any score.. and they felt even more tense as a result. Our introduction to Rey as she's climbing through the downed Star Destroyer, Finn waking up from the crash.. Kylo slicing up the control room. J.J. created a lot of very memorable moments which barely used music, and that is very impressive.

    Look at the shots of the stormtroopers in the dropship, the shot of Rey picking up her staff and running to find BB-8.. the tracking shot of Maz Kanata's castle (which told us the first floor's layout and who was there in seconds) this is an incredibly well filmed movie. There isn't one shot in this film which is useless, not one moment wasted.. it moves fast and constantly gives us important info throughout. If you walk out of the room for 5 minutes, you miss a lot.

    The actors all did a great job in this film. For once, we were introduced to an adult child of a previously established character.. and we actually gravitated to him and liked him on some level. Even more impressive.. he was the main villain of the film!

    I mean, look at J.J. before and after filming.. it easily aged him by 5-10 years. I truly think this guy gave it his all, and it saddens me that so many TLJ haters lump J.J. in with Rian Johnson.

    Although films like Blade Runner 2049 and Die Hard were well executed.. JJ had far less freedom on his film. He wasn't even given a huge budget, as hard as that is to believe.. and most of the film's budget went on marketing. But still, J.J. managed to squeeze the best he could out of it. J.J. saved Star Wars and made it relevant.. let's just hope he can do it again.
     
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    So far TFA is my favorite Disney / new Lucasfilm Star Wars movie. I can't mentioned it enough but I think the first 30 minutes of TFA is the best we have ever seen in the whole Star Wars saga. The first act of this movie is fantastic. The second one not that much, the third act is okay.

    If JJ can deliver a similar experience with IX, then I'm satisfied.
     
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    I completely agree, best executed first act of any Star Wars film.. or on par with Empire.
     
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    You can definitely tell the difference between TFA and TLJ by how they were shot.
    I like TLJ a lot, but I think TFA was shot better for sure. I'm excited to see what JJ does in Ep9
     
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    Absolutely. TFA is my favorite of the three Disney-era movies. Seamlessly applies modern filmmaking techniques to the OT Star Wars aesthetic.

    I have some gripes with it. Didn't need another Death Star. Needed a little more world building (you can jump right in when it's the beginning, but when it's a sequel like this you really need to explain the changes somehow, especially if your protagonists know things you don't and the information feels artificially hidden by the plot).

    But neither of those things ruins my experience. Love this movie. The first time I saw it, I left the theater with such a high.
     
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    THIS! Although, I was almost front row at an IMAX so it was a bit close to the face. I did then see it a second time that same night and it was still great, especially from a normal viewing distance, haha.
     
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    I totally agree, I LOVE TFA. I was really glad to hear JJ was back for Episode IX because I thought he did a great job on TFA.
     
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    JJ will probably age another 10 years after IX is done. The dude had/has from all the new filmmakers the toughest jobs.
    First Star Wars movie in 10 years and making a sequel to Jedi that was 34 years "in the making".

    And bringing the ST and the saga overall to a closure.
     
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    Ctrl + O
    Document: A New Hope
    Ctrl + A
    Ctrl + C
    Ctrl + N
    Document: The Force Awakens
    Ctrl + V
    Ctrl + S

    Hey look, I just saved Star Wars and it’s not even lunch yet :D

    *KIDDING*

    TFA was an impressively well executed film and a pure joy to watch. JJ directed the hell out of that flick. “Great” though? That’s a bridge too far for me.
     
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    I'll go along with great but still would it third of the three released Disney era Star Wars films (being pending on Solo).

    This isn't a slight on Force Awakens at all, I just see Last Jedi as the 2nd best in the franchise overall and Rogue One is also elite to the point of actually making Star Wars a more weighty movie for me.

    Nothing wrong with being in the class of Last Crusade, The Untouchables, or Deadpool.
     
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    When I re-watched it right prior to heading into TLJ, I was almost surprised how well it held up.

    The first act is pure SW fun. The stuff JJ does with Rey on Jakku is definitely up there with ESB as far as great filmmaking. There are some plot conveniences but I still have to rank it as the top Disney film so far, probably by plenty (and I saw TLJ four times).
     
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    TFA is a very good, fun movie but it lacks the same sort of ethos (for the lack of a better term) that the OT and I feel that the TLJ had. This is what lead TLJ to be what it became.
    JJ created a bunch of unanswered questions (the infamous JJ Mystery Box) and left everything open thus making a near infinite amount of potential results.
    While it does allow you to feel that immense rush of joy watching it unfold, it is one of the most FUN Star Wars films period, it does seem to lack it's own narrative at times.

    Basically the character building is the best in the franchise IMO. You get more in depth characters in this film than you do in any others that don't come with a predestined back story.

    The score is one of the best start to finish in the SW saga.

    Overall it is a great movie and it did everything it needed to do to push Star Wars back to the forefront of pop culture. It didn't NEED to build the world, it needed us to fall in love with Rey, Poe and Finn. It needed us to sympathize with and hate our villains. It accomplished that.
     
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