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The Force Awakens vs Star Trek Into The Darkness

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Count dooku, Dec 25, 2015.

  1. Count dooku

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    Both movies are shameless ripoffs of better movies so which one is worse.
     
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    The Force Awakens is better, even Kirk knows it.
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    Force Awakens was great so I guess that makes Into Darkness worse!
     
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    Both are the same, so are both worse, or are both better ?
     
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    I walked out of Into Darkness then never thought about that movie again. I walked out of TFA and wanted to immediately see it again. It seems to me that even people who claim to hate the movie can't stop thinking about it. I guess that's a sign of a great movie. THOUGHT PROVOKING
     
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    not really. its the sequel to RoTJ. of course everyones thinking about it.
     
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    You tell us. I don't understand your point.
     
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    That's funny I would have said one is a brilliant alternate universe take on the heroes of Star Trek with changes that made this fan really enjoy how things worked similar and different. The is a brilliant continuation of a series which was originally and freshly told but also repeated film making styles codified by the series creator like visual/tonal rhyme, use of syblism and storytelling parallelisms. If all you want is a space action flick there are plenty some of them are pretty good. SW has a lot more going into it and I was amazed at what they gave us.
     
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    I actually enjoyed both.
    I never cared much about Star Trek before the 2009 movie (because Abram's reboot felt more like a Star Wars movie)

    That being said, I would say that Into Darkness probably has fewer "weird" plot moments... it's a bit easier to follow without needing to read additional materials for things to make sense.
    However, ID didn't leave questions unanswered like TFA did. These are the things that keep me interested in Star Wars...
    Also, the characters in TFA are more interesting to me.
    I'm far more excited to see where Rey and Finn go from here on, because of TFA.
     
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    The difference between TFA vs. Into the Darkness, is that Abrams catered to the fans and what they wanted, new and old, while he didnt do any of that when it came to Star Trek. It is disappointing to hear people claim they never enjoyed Startrek before Abrams, the fact is that how can you have any appreciation for Startrek Old vs. Abrams Startrek if you have no respect for the former when in fact Abrams did a terrible, terrible job with Startrek. I am far more of a Startrek fan than a Starwars fan, however that is not the point, Abrams showed NO appreciation or respect for what came before, yes yes i know it is an alternative universe.

    You know how most of you all feel about the Prequels of Starwars? That is how Startrek fans feel about Abrams Universe.
     
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    Must be some kind of truth to it.
    I'am undecided yet if I like the movie or not, but I want to see it again, it's weird.
    Maybe it's a good movie, but not a good Star Wars movie, I don't know folks.
    I guess I need to see the movie again for a decision.
     
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    I grew up on TOS it was on always somewhere on re-runs in the UHF channels. I loved TNG. The movies hit and misses. I thought that JJ handled Trek awesomely. He did great. No one could have rebooted the series to the satisfaction some fans. If he did a full reboot which is what they wanted it would have been un-necessary. If they did purely new characters it would have been hollow. He did a parallel alt-universe which fist perfectly in the vein of the show. The actors were awesome in their parts. I like both and I was a fan for more than 30 years.
     
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    He meant this with a shamless rip off from a better movie:
    Star Trek II > Into Darkness / ANH > TFA

    @Count dooku - like him or not, but he is totally correct with his statement.
    Star Wars 1977 and Star Trek II are classics and superior, non-negotiable.

    My opinion is that ST: Into Darkness is much worse, because I don't have the urge to watch it again.
    But I want to see TFA again.

    Too much threads about bashing TFA in the last days, it's annoying.
    I agree TFA is not a masterpiece, but it's not garbage either.
    People should calm down and take it what it is, a movie who tries to entertain us 2 hours plus.

    Mark Hamill said: "I'm telling you, it's just a movie. These people that build it up in their minds like it's going to be the second coming of, I don't know what — they're bound to be disappointed."
     
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    Dude.....for a guy that wasn't even in the movie good ol Luke sure called it perfectly.
     
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    If my memory serves me well, he was the only cast member who warned us fans to be disappointed, kudos to him for speaking the truth.
    He is very likeable and I appreciate his attitude.
     
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    Into Darkness is fine. Not such a great reboot for Star Trek as Force Awakens is for SW. Now the new Star Trek, Beyond, THAT will be utter garbage, if the movie will look like the trailer.
     
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    I'm going to get blast for this, but the first of the two Abrams Star Trek films was better than the Force Awakens.

    Not for nothing but it felt far more rounded than the Force Awakens. However, that's to do with the fact that it's basically a reboot and didn't have to reintroduce existing characters AND introduce new ones. There was a lot riding on the Force Awakens compared to Star Trek, so it's understandable.
     
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    Into Darkness wasn't a reboot. The 2009 film was the reboot for Star Trek.
     
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    Someone like Christopher Nolan could have done a much better job with star trek, Ridley Scott is another candidate.
    Star Trek Into Darkness is a fun movie but its an inch deep if that. Then again star trek is at its best when its a tv series. TFA was better then Into Darkness but not by a whole lot.
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    C'mon it was a reboot of wrath of khan.
     
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    Thank you, that is what i was about to say. I would have liked to of seen someone else do the Startrek movies, what Paramount is trying to do is relaunch the franchise in the same way, Marvel and DC are doing, the problem is that these executives have been the problem with Startrek. If Paramount pulled there head out of there ass, they could pull from so much when it comes to Startrek universe instead of doing what they did, the first movie was fine, i have ZERO problem with that, granted a few things but i can overlook them but "Into the Darkness" was rehash of the Wrath of Khan and now Startrek Beyond, did anyone see the trailer? OMG, even Simon Pegg stated it sucked. But getting back to Startrek, if Paramount wanted to do something off the wall, they should have gone in the direction of Section 31, they are essentially a covert branch of the Federation, they work outside of the prime directive and they could have done what so many franchises are doing and yet they didnt, and Into the Darkness and that who section 31 and Khan was a disaster, this is what is expected from the franchise, to be frank it should have been handed over to a REAL company that can deal with the 50yrs of history, hell JJ didn't even have enough respect to give credit to the creator of Startrek. He did great with the force awakens, he appealed to everything, HE FAILED in that with Startrek and has done more damage that he realizes.
     
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