The Force Belongs to Us: THE LAST JEDI’s Beautiful Refocusing of Star Wars

Did people forget the Prequel and OT is about the curse of Skywalker family bloodline and how Luke trying to overcome it?

What with this nonsense anyone can be a Jedi in this TLJ? Only people who doesn't know Star wars or probably brain-dead say this: "not everyone has to be skywalker".

They clearly doesn't know Mace windu, Yoda, qui gon jin or even Obiwan Kenobi. They're all nobody, they're just getting dragged and caught into the curse of Skywalker.

Skywalker bloodline curse is the driven force for OT and prequel. Here we see 'everyone can be a jedi" bantha poodoo.

Sequel trilogy should has follow that route, Rey is just nobody but get caught into Skywalker curse.

 

They aren't saying everyone can be a Jedi. They are saying a Jedi can come from anywhere. Even a scavenger from Jakku with no parents or a slave stable boy on Canto Bight. They aren't saying that Rose could become a Jedi if she wanted.

While the Skywalker's have had a huge impact on the galaxy, Palpatine would have done just fine with Maul or Dooku or another dark side user. The Empire would have still risen, yes even without Vader. The Rebellion however would have been wiped out on Yavin without Luke.

 

Yeah, I don't know where he's getting the idea that there is some kind of curse. Strange interpretation.

 

Isn't a jedi can come from anywhere a given in OT and prequel? What make it so special now? Huh? all those precious younglings, nobody they are. Mace Windu, no body he is. Obiwan Kenobi, failed anakin he did.
All those people are nobody as far as i know from OT and prequel.

The reason Palpatine choose Anakin is because he is the most easily corrupted out of others, while bearing the most potential out of other choice.
That's why Palpatine chosen Anakin: Easily corrupted and has the most strength potential in the force out of other choice. Thus begin the curse of Skywalker family.

Tell me what will you see about God-father trilogy when suddenly it isn't about Vito's attempt to turn Micheal back to run family. It will be nothing, just like this movie is.
Nothing.

The reason Vito want Micheal back is because he is the potential in Vito's eyes to be the best successor after his death. But he wouldn't know how Micheal will do to run the family. He just think of it as the best choice.

 

I have no idea what you arr trying to say.

 

I don't think you would understand either.
People should stop bring external material to justify things.

 

Isn't that exactly what you are doing? lol

 

Well said. /thread really, right here.

The article in the OP is anti-nitpicking. Taking one or two aspects and then trying to say LOOK THE MOVIE'S GOOD 'CAUSE IT DID THESE COUPLE THINGS (and not even that well). Like a lawyer arguing his client is not guilty of murder BECAUSE THIS ONE TIME HE LIKE PAID HIS BILLS ON TIME LOOK.

Exactly. Everything is down to execution. Executed well, you can tell a story however you like - use family, don't use it. Use it to make your story sing, don't use it.

Above all other things, TLJ does not execute well.

They could have told the same exact story, same scenes, but execute well enough that fans would unanimously begrudgingly accept the 'out with the old/in with the new'.

But they didn't.

 

Nothing in any of the SW films have said that only Skywalkers are the only special people. The point of the skywalker family saga was that you relate to the characters through the family dynamics.

The Clone Wars and Rebels series have proven that anyone can be a powerful jedi, even more powerful than the skywalker members. I don’t get why this has to be a big deal. It’s not promoting Trumpism or a entitlement. Having Rey as Luke’s kid would actually be a more clear dynamic between Rey and Kylo Ren.

Since they didn’t establish with clarity that Rey is a nobody TFA and indicated that she is somebody with all these mystery boxes, then turning that around in episode VIII just makes for a muddled story. Pick one or the other, and that’s on episode 7 to clearly set what this concluding skywalker trilogy would be about.

If you had Rey as a Skywalker. It’s showing two sky walkers of the same generation, one who believes he is of great importance and comes from an entitled background, the other Skywalker is a woman from a poor background, with extraordinary gifts but believes that she is from nothing and of no importance, but finds out she is someone of great importance and realizes that being a Skywalker is not what defines you as a person but the choices you make. If you ask me, that’s the way to wrap up the Skywalker saga.

George Lucas himself said that anyone can use the force, look at his story transcripts with Kasdan on ROTJ.

 

But then you would completely miss out a very interesting opposition : Blood vs Spirit
Rey represents "the spirit" of the OT trio, while Kylo represents "the blood".

It begs the question : what makes you a hero ? Is it what's in your veins ? or what's in your mind ?

But if Rey gets to represent both "the spirit" and "the blood", while Kylo is only "the blood", then what's the point ?

 

Thanks @DailyPlunge I have read the entire article and agree with just about every point. It too sums up my thoughts about the film. Going back again this week for a couple more viewings and I cannot wait....

 

the skywalkers are a boring collection of people whose bloodline has ruined star wars.


get rid of midichlorians, get rid of force hereditary, get rid of force classism

 

The point would be that Rey doesn’t care about her blood but cares about her actions. The message would be your actions are what make you a hero. She doesn’t believe she is special because her identity is a result her self-reliance and survival not because she is of some royal blood.

She knows that her heritage makes no difference because a lot of bad people descend from this line(Kylo and Anakin). It would be the same theme but would make sense. Rey can be a Skywalker and have the same message but Luke would have had to teach her that being a nobody or skywalker is not important.

If they wanted Rey to be a nobody then simply say that she’s a nobody in TFA. They didn’t not set that up with the lightsaber calling to her for some reason despite being lost at Cloud City. That’s the problem with mystery boxes and not having a clear goal.

Lucas never once implied that only Skywalkers are heroes. Remember it was Lando that saved the day along with the small Ewoks.

The Skywalkers was just an allegory for people to apply themselves by seeing through the characters of Luke, Leia, etc. Luke’s relationship with Vader was designed so that anyone can relate to no matter who because we all have complicated relationships with our parents.

 

the problem with that is that the Star Wars setting is an ENTIRE GALAXY..... so yeah we have every logical reason to want to see other stories.

 

There were many scenes in TFA that were specially crafted to play with the audience expectations regarding her parentage, it is undeniable that JJ was fueling the audience speculation on purpose, not only in the movie but in interviews as well.

 

True, but the Skywalkers are victims of a broken system, the Extreme black and white thinking of the Republic, the Jedi and The Sith.

 

It....still....is....the....curse. Ben Solo is intent on burning down the galaxy.

Why else would Luke consider ending his nephew and removing himself from the galaxy? It remains the entire point, and it's beautiful that the, other than Ben, the remaining Skywalker is an adopted 'princess'...who didn't get her title from her real mother who hadn't been a 'Queen' at the time of her birth, but got her title from an adopted 'family'. And that 'princess' will be (depending on whatever happens with Leia's character.....darn) guiding, in a sense, her adopted 'family', her adopted 'daughter', in the same ship where she spent so much time with her former husband, his adopted yeti-brother, their butler droid, mechanic droid, and her other adopted 'son-pilot'. Family is still very much a theme, even Leia's adopted family.