The Force Belongs to Us: THE LAST JEDI’s Beautiful Refocusing of Star Wars

Let the past die. Kill it. If you have to.
Then kill the present also. Ditch it. If you have to.
Don't care about the future. Ignore it. If you have to.

. you're the main target of Darth Mouse so i'm not surprised.

 

The answer wasn’t obvious. It’s only to her cause she read the script and knows what happens later.

Her lineage was clouded in mysteries in the first one. Why does a lightsaber that’s been missing for thirty years suddenly reappear? TFA emphasized that who she was is important. Kylo Ren saying “the girl I’ve heard so much about,” it’s like he’s heard about her more than once.

Maz Kanata asking “who’s the girl?” to Han then cutting to rey walking to the lightsaber. It’s very misleading. If TFA had clearly dramatized and just said her parents are no one from the start no one would complain but because they hit you over the head with mystery boxes, a lot of people are confused and find the story of this trilogy slightly muddled.

 

Not only that, all the banter with Han, pointing to a possible connection, the hug with Leia, it was clearly done on purpose to tease the audience. The sole idea of mentioning Rey's parents at all is evidence for this, if her parents where not important from the beginning why mention them at all? Dis we ever wonder who Obi-Wan's parents were? or Yoda? or Mace?

 

That is still your interpretation. When I first watched TFA, I never once doubted that Rey was a nobody. People in the audience that saw hints at her being a Skywalker or something were actively looking for those hints. For example, when Kylo says "What girl?", it’s only him asking a simple question. It’s not Kylo thinking "is this girl the long lost Skywalker daughter that was dumped on Jakku by her loving father many years ago?". But some fans read too much into that question.

Also, when Han Solo talked to her after landing at Maz place, and offering her a job, some fan again saw hints of a family connection there. To me, it was simply Han Solo that kind of liked the girl and was akwardly trying to get her to join his crew.

I watched TFA a few days after seeing TLJ, and everything fits with a Rey nobody.

The question of her parents was important because she was abandoned and it was a traumatising event in her life. It’s something that keeps her from moving forward, an obstacle she has to overcome. Han acted as a surrogate father for a bit but she rejected this because she is deluding herself thinking that her real parents will be back someday.

 

As I said, it was not obvious. They left her backstory clouded in mystery because Abrams had no plan or idea what he was setting up. He just threw a bunch of random red herrings for the sake of it. He basically gave the audience the right to speculate that she is someone of great importance or something significant. Hence the lightsaber visions, obi wan voices, Rey saying “where I come from classified,” also that ship flying away from her.

If they had just made Rey a nobody from the beginning there would be no debate, none whatsoever.

Yea you can say that the OT was not all planned out but ANH was a fully realized stand alone film that didn’t rely on mystery boxes which is what TFA is.

 

But the classified comment had nothing to do with a mysterious past. It was her reaction to BB-8 telling her his identity was classified. It was a mix of not really believing him and yeah yeah, whatever robot, you don’t want to tell me, I don’t want to tell you. A little bit of harmless sarcasm. Rey at this point is the story is pretty independenr and used to keeping her weaknesses hidden. She lives in a harsh environment and has to act like she is tough and doesn’t much care about anyone else. Show weakness in this environment, and they will make you suffer.

 

I consider the whole train of thought to be a retcon though. When I was coming up it was THE STAR WARS Saga not the Skywalker saga and the OT was the adventures of Luke Skywalker not the redemption of Anakin Skywalker.

Hell, Return of the Jedi only became the finale when Lucas was having family problems, was also wanting to avoid his career essentially turning into Star Wars (which it did anyway for all the difference it made with his filmmaking) and branch out, or that the actors wanted to move on.
So about 15 years later he slaps some weak CGI celebration montage and focused on the prequels along with transforming the narrative to the fall and redemption of Anakin after the fact.

I love George Lucas and wouldn't be the same person without his influence though we've never met but all of this near religious knee scraping for his evolutions of what was the case is almost a silly version of A Brave New World to me.

I'm not edit/deleting my memories and impressions or accepting Obi-Wan is some delusional habitial liar because he changed his mind over the years about all kinds of stuff.

--- Double Post Merged, May 17, 2018, Original Post Date: May 17, 2018 ---

I consider the whole train of thought to be a retcon though. When I was coming up it was THE STAR WARS Saga not the Skywalker saga and the OT was the adventures of Luke Skywalker not the redemption of Anakin Skywalker.

Hell, Return of the Jedi only became the finale when Lucas was having family problems, was also wanting to avoid his career essentially turning into Star Wars (which it did anyway for all the difference it made with his filmmaking) and branch out, or that the actors wanted to move on.
So about 15 years later he slaps some weak CGI celebration montage and focused on the prequels along with transforming the narrative to the fall and redemption of Anakin after the fact.

I love George Lucas and wouldn't be the same person without his influence though we've never met but all of this near religious knee scraping for his evolutions of what was the case is almost a silly version of A Brave New World to me.

I'm not edit/deleting my memories and impressions or accepting Obi-Wan is some delusional habitial liar because he changed his mind over the years about all kinds of stuff.

 

Why kill off the Skywalkers? Why all? Still haven't gotten a good answer.

I mean Superman still sells after 80 YEARS.

 

You do realize that Kylo is a Skywalker, right?

 

Do we have to count the times they've killed Superman now? Lol.

 

or made him evil, or took away his powers, or any one of a hundred other things that incensed and alienated fans?

Superman is fine. the Skywalkers will be fine.

 

Because A TON of people like familiarity!

 

Red Son.....haha Commie Superman lol.

Or how about Hydra Captain America.
(Okay that one is actually terrible because his whole identity is being anti-Nazi and if you make him one, he's pointless)

 

You know what people complained the most about TFA? It was too similar to Hope.

 

honest to God, i adore Superman, but right now my favorite comic is Injustice 2, in which he's the worst.

i understand holding some things sacrosanct, but if Star Wars survived Attack of the Clones, Crystal Star, and the likes of Luuke, it'll survive TLJ too.