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The future of Star Wars music. Which composers would you like to see involved?

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by srg, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. Lock_S_Foils

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    Wow @tm0910196 the Newman track is incredible!! Very moving....love it!! Thanks
     
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    I think there's also something about storytelling to it. I mean, good animations seem to be more focused on emotion and characters as opposed to, let's say, purely the spectacle or whatever.

    On a more general note, a lot of directors are lazy when it comes to scoring (yes, directors, because it is often them who are to blame for bland music), so we can be grateful to Lucas and Williams for establishing what the approach to Star Wars music should be. It's them who made the role of music so vital in these films. Now, even if a director is not a music guy, it's enough for the parties involved to refer back to how Lucas and Williams did it (it's simply something they have to do when making a Star Wars film). I remember Michael Giacchino saying something along the lines: it's not often that a composer has a chance to write such grand themes as it is the case in Star Wars (I'm paraphrasing). And it got me thinking. Why can't we have nice things? :p Why can't this approach be more popular? And I think this goes back to a lot of filmmakers being lazy about music.
     
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    Another thought: Alan Silvestri, if he hasn’t been mentioned.

    I’m not super familiar with his work, but his Captain America March is pretty inspired. A shame the sequels got rid of it!
     
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    Yeah, we've mentioned him. ;) He's not among my favourite composers, but I recognise that he would most definitely do well with Star Wars. The first Captain America is one of few decent Marvel scores IMO. I'm curious about his work in Ready Player One.
     
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    Any takers for Danny Elfman? A gothic score for a darker anthology film could be pretty neat.
     
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    After discussing all this and listening to a lot of new things....I still come back to Giacchino and Howard Shore. I had really forgotten how epic the score was for the LOTR Trilogy. I think a Shore SW Trilogy would be majestic....
     
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    This is the list of complaints I would have over Shore scoring Star Wars:

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    It’s a long list, I know!
     
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    He's another guy who comes to mind when considering all those old-school composers. He hasn't impressed me lately, though. So I wouldn't necessarily be against him being involved, but there's quite a few names I'd rather have in Star Wars first.

    I think this discussion shows that there's actually more composers that seem to be capable than one would initially think. I would still prefer if they invited already proved composers back instead of hiring new ones all the time. For example, I expect Rian's trilogy to be scored by one person. It's a good idea to have one composer do a series of connected films. And that's why the choice has to be good...
     
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    Yeah. It’s a bit tough. On one side of Hollywood you have Remote Control Productions (Hans Zimmer and all the guys who imitate him with varying degrees of memorability), and then on the other you have the predictable list of old-school types (Alan Menken, Danny Elfman, Howard Shore, Alan Silvestri, and the late James Horner...).

    Some composers occupy a middle ground, like James Newton Howard, John Powell, and sort of Brian Tyler.

    What about a popular but less omnipresent name, like Mychael Danna? I’ve only heard Life of Pi, but it was really quite varied and solid.
     
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    Danna did Moneyball.....don't remember much about the score of that movie, but as a baseball fan I loved the behind the scenes look into managing a ball team....
     
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    Junkie XL, Hans Zimmer or both.
     
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    I hope I don't get lynched for this but I think Hans Zimmer is extremely overrated. I hope he never scores a Star Wars movie.

    About the composers, I think the style is a lot more important than who would compose it. There are quite some versatile composers who would be able to do a terrific job. What I love about the original trilogy score is how it helped define film scoring, and I would like Star Wars to continue in that way that is so unique and recognizable of the franchise. The original scores have that impressionist vibe, and influences of composers like Holst and Stravinsky. I think that's what made the score so special, and John Williams continued with it to an extent in the prequel trilogy. Then with the sequel trilogy he opted to a more minimalistic approach that's gotten so popular lately in film scoring with figures like Hans Zimmer, where the music is only a backing device that's not meant to be noticed; only a tool to enhance the visuals. Which is of course a totally valid use of a score, but I think the approach John Williams had for the original trilogy is so much better.
    I don't dislike the sequel trilogy score. There are for sure some incredible themes from Williams, but I think that in some cues Michael Giacchino did a better job at being Williams in RO than Williams himself with the sequel trilogy.
     
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    I could defend a Zimmer Star Wars score, (I kinda did on the last page) and sometimes Junkie XL does awesome things (Mad Max!!!!), but seriously, I REALLY hope they keep Junkie XL away from Star Wars!

    I can agree that Zimmer is overrated now. The amount of people falling all over themselves in praise of the noise that was Dunkirk is a tad disheartening, and, Interstellar and some Batman aside, I'm not a huge fan of what Nolan has made him put out. But around 2009 and before, he wrote consistently awesome music. The 1990s and 2000s were his golden age, to me.
     
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    Brian Tyler is weird. :p On the one hand he's the embodiment of what I find painfully bland, but on the other hand... there's like something a bit more sophisticated in his approach... I don't know how to put it. But I think the guy borderline drove his "epic sound" to the ground. A huge gripe I have with him is how interchangeable his themes seem to be. TMNT, Iron Man 3, Thor, even the freaking Olympics theme - switch them around and the result is the same.

    Look, Junkie XL seems like a nice guy and I respect him for the hard work he must have done to get to this level professionally (I also appreciate his insightful YT channel), but IMO he's probably be the worst famous film composer around... His Batman theme is atrocious... Sorry for sounding mean, I mean no offence to JXL fans... :p Jablonsky is another composer whose music I can't stand. But that's just me.
     
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