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The great Star Wars Trek? (Or Star Trek Wars?)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Books & Comics + Legends' started by Ralok-one, Apr 6, 2015.

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  1. Ralok-one

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    You know, ther have been a lot... and I mean a LOOOOOOOOOOOT of good Star Trek comics since the Star Trek movies rebooted, I honestly believe its the best era of comics that Trek has ever had.

    Recently they have been doing a Star Trek and Planet of the Apes crossover, which is FANTASTIC, they have done two Doctor Who crossover events, even a legion of Superheroes crossover. And soon Star Trek will be crossing over with Green Lantern!

    And all this has me thinking... maybe... its time.

    Its time for Star Trek and Star Wars to have the crossover. Star Wars has never really done crossovers, the closest thing to it has been their crossover with Soul Calibur, the first and foremost focus of any Star Wars work has been to further the mythos of Star Wars.

    But because the canon was shaken up, and now the concept of non-canonical material is more accepted by Star Wars fans than it used to be... Maybe its just time? The crossover would have to be defined dfinitively as non-canon to Star Wars of course.

    But there is a lot you can do with it, you can have an existential crisis with spock trying to understand the force. You can have the confusion of the enterprise crew in the Star Wars universe, you can finally hear chewie talk with the universal translators.

    And maybe the crew of the enterprise can finally see what a real war looks like, not the petty psuedo-wars that the people of the Star Trek universe have fought... not grinning at each other on borders. Not one-on-one fights with other Starship captains.

    That things can get so bad, and so desperate that ideals have to be thrown away.

    Bonus points for: Klingon Inquisitor being trained byvader (maybe he escaped the Enterprise brig during a fight), Mind Meld between Yoda (or Luke) and Spock and spock gets temporary usage of the force, Scotty upgrading the falcon, Chewie petting a Tribble, Leia chewing out captain Kirk for his ideals and pointing out how they are nonsensein this situation... and especially Phaser beam being deflected by lightsaber!

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    And maybe this could be followed up with a re-imagining of both franchises?

    Star Wars Trek with all the characters, races, and universe of Star Wars, but with the ideals andconcepts of Star Trek.

    Star Trek Wars with all the charactersm, universe, andraces of Star Trek, but with the ideals and concepts of Star Wars.

    Two mini series after the star trek/star wars crossver, to serve as the franchises taking a a bow to one another.
     
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    so firstly, i doubt they'll ever do a narrative that crosses Trek with SW. would it be cool? yeah, probably in some ways, but ultimately (like you said) SW is used only to expand itself. it'd be like doing a LotR Trek episode, you know? it kind of reminds me of that crappy Indiana Jones/SW cross over that happened. ugh, what a stupid idea that was! i don't think that was canon, but yikes!

    with that out of the way, i love your idea! hearing Chewie (or R2) over a translator would be epic! Data using the Force? can't say no to the crazy story that would be! can androids use the Force? that's classic Trek, right there!

    if they were to cross over i'd think it'd be a deep space mission; the crew of the Enterprise accidentally gets warped to unknown coordinates in an unknown galaxy, crazy wormhole style. next thing you know, the Death Star 2 is being destroyed and, as the Imperial fleet retreats, the Enterprise is mistaken as a Rebel ship and attacked! despite the captain's civil pleas for peace the TIE's keep swarming and the Enterprise takes action to ensure its safety, and not without the notice of the Rebel fleet. with that danger being taken care of the Rebels and the Enterprise cautiously approach each other and the story ensues...
     
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    Im only talking about a 4 or 5 issue comic book series of course.

    Nothing too more than that.

    Personally I would use the TOS Star Trek Era, and your plot idea sounds about right for what I had in mind... but I would use the Era between A New Hope and Empire.
     
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    It is not canon ;) Only the 6 movies, The Clone Wars animated movie, The Clone Wars animated series, Rebels animated series and things being released after end of April 2014 are canon.

    I'm not too much into Star Trek. Is Data made of organic material? If not, he has no midi-chlorians and cannot use the force. (emperor)
     
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    Data is a robot, and an unemotional one. I would much prefer to see him talking to Artoo and Threepio... Icant think of any good moments that could happen between them off the top of my head, but with a little bit of thought I bet I could squeeze some great stuff out of that.

    I am mainly thinking of a TOS (original star trek) and Star Wars crossover... oddly if I did TNG (the next generation, the show with data) I might go into the prequel era instead...
    DS9 and Rebels, Voyager and The Clone Wars (clones vs Borg), and enterprise and the flippin ewoks movies (ewok)BECAUSE ENTERPRISE DESERVES IT (that would be one-shot kinda gag comic)
     
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    Mh...I see. I just thought maybe some parts of Data are made of organic material (Cyborg), because he looks like a human.

    I think it would be pretty hard to make a crossover. Even the physics of these two universes are not the same. For example in Star Wars we have the Force and in Star Trek we have Time Travel. A crossover would make everything of Star Wars also a fact in Star Trek and everything of Star Trek
    a fact of Star Wars. And speaking of time, that's another problem. Star Trek is set in the future (Year 2200 and up, as far as I remember). While Star Wars is set in the past (”a long time ago...”). So the characters we know probably couldn't meet.

    I don't like the idea of a crossover. These two franchises a too different. Some eastereggs might be OK though, because they don't bring things into canon. I have a feeling we might see some in Ep.VII. J.J. put in R-2 in both of the new Star Trek movies. So maybe he puts in some Star Trek stuff in Ep.VII in return.
     
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    Crossovers arent Canon, in any universe where inter-company crossovers like this occur. They are usually just a one-off fun thing that is done, there is no reason to worry about Canon because it wouldnt be canon and it would never be canon.

    Canon is not a subject in this conversation.

    And it is true that Star Trek and Star Wars are entirely different universes, with different physical properties and laws that govern the anomalies and weird stuff they find in them. That can be played with, maybe the enterprises Warp Engine is completely non-functional in the Star Wars universe, and freaking Han Solo and Chewbacca have to fix it.

    The transporter and replicator technologies could give the Rebellion a major edge against the empire...

    In a crossover you play with the differences. Star Trek has now had crossover comics with X-men, Legion of Super-heroes, Planet of the Apes, Doctor Who, and soon Green Lantern.

    The differences between Star Trek and Doctor Who, Green Lantern, and especially Legion of Superheroes is far greater than the differences between Star Wars adn Star Trek will ever be.
     
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    Blood would fill the streets with Star Wars and Star Trek fans battling it out.

    I'm a big Star Trek fan, so if they did a one-off, just for fun, I could enjoy that. The new Star Trek comics have been great, no doubt about it. I enjoyed the first Countdown series more than the last two films combined.

    I don't think a crossover will ever happen though. Paramount and Bad Robot should focus on bringing Star Trek back to television via Netflix, focus on rebuilding the franchise (I don't have high hopes for Trek 3), and then give the fans a new series of films. Now that Bad Robot has dipped into both the honey pots of Star Wars and Star Trek, maybe a crossover comic would be a nice nod of respect to Star Trek fans who are still holding their breath for one more TNG film that sends the crew off proper. Make it so?
     
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    As long as it ends with Picard taking care of Shinzons half-romulan child, I feel like that would be the most fitting end to the series for some reason.
     
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    Wait...huh? Shinzon had a half-Romulan child? I'm thinking a little more Borg
     
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    No, but I think that it would be a fitting way to end the series. The issues Picard faced over the series with his family, with his self, with children, with his own age and mortality. I think ending a TNG movie with him having some small hope for the future...
     
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    I'm not so familiar with Star Trek (watched some movies (the new ones and some old) and a small number of episodes. It feels very strange to me that many non-human species look very similiar to humans. The only visual difference of Spock, for example, are his ears, that could be human ears aswell. And there are other species that look exactly like humans. I know the possibilities were very limited when first Star Trek were made, but couldn't they get some masks and/or make-up? Don't get me wrong, I don't want to offend any Star Trek fan nor the franchise itself. I'm just wondering and would like to hear your opinions.

    Live long and prosper. (^_^)v
     
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    One of the many many many reasons I would rather bring Star Trek characters into the Star Wars universe, than bring Star Wars characters into the Star Trek universe.

    Also its appropriate thematically as Star Trek is abotu discovering strange new worlds...

    Also, at the end I would have Kirk recording his report about it, and you would have to do the "Long time ago, in a Galaxy Far Far away" line.
     
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    Off Course i would watch/read any Star Wars and Star Trek crossover despite not liking the idea at all, i believe SW and ST belong to 2 very diferent space realities, way to far apart to even such thing be considered.

    But i have one nice thought: Why not an Aliens Vs. Star Wars or an Aliens Vs. Star Trek?
     
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