SPECULATION The Jedi Moving Forward

Since the Sith were not mentioned in the OT, darths were just the dark side, I think the Sith is pretty much dead in the Sequels and all the upcoming movies in general.
Maybe they will be brought back in some spin-off, or prequel, who knows at this point. We're just gonna have to wait and see.

 

So, the kid at the end.

There is another??

 

Rey is suddenly wise enough to teach a jedi order after 7 days...having the knowledge and experience of a padawan at best

Way to go Disney

 

With Yoda's, Obi-Wan's and Luke's help

 

First of all, I totally agree with your sentiment, but I would urge you not to leap to conclusions at this point. (Doing my best Obi-Wan impression).

Someone else said in another post here, that we should look TFA and TLJ as one film, split over two parts. I don't think Episode 9 will start straight after TLJ, I think some time will pass, and during that time I think it's safe to imagine that Rey will simply devour the Jedi Ancient texts, and teach herself before she teaches anyone. I imagine most of this will be depicted in novels and by Marvel in their comic books.

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Also, I don't think Rey will be "alone" in training the new Jedi. There's a bit in "A Certain Point of View" where Obi-Wan is facing Darth Vader. And ...

Direct quote from the book, Obi-Wan has just been killed by Darth Vader, and Luke has just screamed "Ben! No!"

"Luke cries out again, consumed with grief. I see everything at once. The blaster in his hand. Solo taking out stormtroopers, Leia calling his name. The troopers advance, guns rased. If Luke stays, he will die. If he fights, he will die.

I didn't let it happen before, and I won't let it happen now. I whisper the words I spoke when he was a child, words I know only he will here.

Run, Luke! Run!

And he does. Luke Skywalker runs and doesn't stop. And I am at his side. From this moment, he will never be alone. He will learn, and he will grow, and I will guide him every step of the way.

We have all the time we need."

I think in Episode 9, we'll see Luke train Rey some more, and possibly Obi-Wan and Yoda too. Which would be quite awesome.

So in a nutshell, I don't think Episode 9 will be set the next day after TLJ, because they'll also need to cover the sad real life event of Carrie Fisher's death (still miss you princess )

I think JJ may get to make the Star Wars film he really wants to make, as I think he very much played it safe with TFA, Rian took us out of our comfort zones with TLJ, so I think we've got a good base to move on from now.

Just my 2c worth

 

You can become a jedi master without reading those books so i guess they are pretty unimportant.

 

I agree very much with many points in this thread. I feel that Rey has enough training to build onto. She will not be teaching right away. Time will pass and I think she will grow exponentially during that time. She will then lead the Jedi into a new era, now armed with better wisdom to help guard against turning to the dark side. I feel she will usher the Jedi back into a new golden age.

Time will tell, but if this trilogy is the end of the Skywalker timeline, then it ends on a great note.

 

Enough training? Dis she have any training at all?

 

Nope.

 

Yes... did you see Luke's training? How long was that? not as long as you might think. He was trained as a young man, not a child, just as Rey. The benefit with Rey is that she was already proficient with a staff in combat. She wouldn't have needed nearly as much training in dueling than she received. I thought they did a good job explaining that between the two movies.

Also, one thing that gets lost on most people is that the bulk of Jedi training is at the hands of the apprentice. It is up to them to study the ways of the force. The exception to this are the younglings who would learn under Yoda, but the idea is the same. Once older, they would take their learning upon themselves... just as in real life.

Also, it is a clear reference in the movie about what the best teacher is... Failure. This is also true about real life.

So, I really don't understand people's gripe with her advancement. So just because she bested another dueling novice (Kylo, at the time), now she is looked at as super proficient, but she wasn't. Even in this movie, she has come quite far from the TFA days, but her skill still has room for improvement as I though was clearly conveyed. Snoke's guards are highly trained to handle Jedi, but still to be less efficient at defeating Jedi. Jedi even at the level of Kylo and Rey should beat those guards. Yet they did struggle.

Also, let's talk about the force. Rey's mastery of the force is still to come, in no way has she mastered it. Those rocks she lifted was her strongest display so far. If you are concerned about that, then wow, you need to check again.

Luke was lifting ships on Dagobah... what a few weeks into his training.

So please tell me again about how she doesn't have enough training. I think you are putting too much stock into that.

Athletes just like Jedi come out of the box with their power/abilities. It is the honing of those abilities that require training. However, that training normally doesn't has to take long.

Training is not synonymous with time as it is content and efficiency

 

That is not what is stated at all.

 

Yeah, the Jedi are failures, the Sith had a point.

Let's let Rey start a school for something new where Jedi and Sith can be brought together to learn that balance is greatness.

"But the Sith killed unarmed children and decapitated them one by one while the others, waiting their turn, watched their still living heads fall to the ground in shock gasping for air because the light saber's heat cauterized the wound causing intracranial blood pressure not to fall low enough to cause loss of consciousness for atleast 20-30 seconds."

Oh right.

 

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Loved the ending scene with the kid. The legend of Luke Skywalker is will keep the Jedi alive.