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The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Jedi MD, Dec 21, 2019.

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TLJ vs TROS

  1. Liked TLJ and liked TROS

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  2. Liked TLJ and disliked TROS

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  3. Disliked TLJ and liked TROS

    16 vote(s)
    17.2%
  4. Disliked TLJ and disliked TROS

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  5. Liked TLJ and partially liked TROS

    17 vote(s)
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  6. Disliked TLJ and partially liked TROS

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    Lucas was an anthropology student, so he was interested in all of the deeper meaning of symbols in the myths/religions of cultures around the world. Occult in the sense of hidden, but not the occult that's popularized in media as demon worship and so on. He was deeply influenced by a mentor, Joseph Campbell, who was influenced by Carl Jung, who applied psychology to understanding world mythologies, or analyzing mythologies to understanding what makes us tick. You're looking at the same myth in Star Wars as in many world religions and the mystery traditions. George Lucas said many people notice that, and use it as a tool to teach the hidden meaning in their own religion. He said he wanted to make a movie for kids that got them interested in spirituality, and he said he was telling "old myths in a new way."

    The same themes appear in old cultures around the world, and so if those people didn't meet up in the past, we have to believe that these ideas come from inside of our own psyche, just like most of us develop 5 fingers on each hand no matter where we are on Earth. We can unfold the truth, like we grow hair, from within. Star Wars can help us to look inside of ourselves, because all of the characters refer to us. Instead of being disappointed at Luke Skywalker on Ahch-to, we should be disappointed at ourselves for not getting out there and changing this crap that has risen from within us to around us, a waste land built out of the human psyche. Through comparative mythology and religion, Campbell suggested that there's really only one myth. So one key to understanding Star Wars is to read and listen to Joseph Campbell. He died after the original trilogy. But in his interviews with Bill Moyers, he answered a question of whether entertainment media can fulfill the role of being a kind of new mythology for a new time. He mentioned Star Wars. The video is on YT.

    What I'm saying is that the movie is not about outer space at all. It's a story about our inner space, consciousness and its transformation that saves the world. . There are artistic clues to that right in the original trilogy. If you read the art and symbols, there's another story there, told with images, like any good art.
    For example, reversing colors on the lightsabers and ships. Why do the bad guy ships shoot green, but the good guy's sword is green? Reversal. Ahh. The Jedi and Sith are about what's going on inside of us-- battling in consciousness. The reverse polarity of that is what's going on outside of us. The Empire and the Rebellion are about what's going on outside of our consciousness on the stage of the material world, and it's the outcome of our inner consciousness battle, collectively, that makes that world. Luke Skywalker is our internal spiritually enlightened being trying to put down the devil in us. Leia as the leader of the world's material instruments fighting to reflect that light like the moon, and express that consciousness in the outer world, so that we don't have an evil empire. The only hope is that these two forces can get back together, and the inner light (Luke sun) can shine on the outer world (Leia moon). The material moon is dark (death star)symbolically, and the moonlight Leia is held captive inside, waiting to be rescued by the light of the sun. Same thing when she is a slave in chains, bonded to the big booger of materiality, Jabba. The light has to go try to release her. This is why they are separated when the temple falls in the prequels, and their mother whose name Padme means lotus, a sacred flower in the eastern religions, dies. Anakin kills that connection or secret marriage to the sacred, and so she dies. Spirit and matter are divided. The only way empires rise is if the consciousness of the people go along with it, and the only way for Palpatine to fail, is for us all to transform inside, because we allow it to grow. He's always trying to put out Snokes from our inner consciousness, to take over where he left off.

    This is art like a Mozart opera, that reveals mysteries and truths about ourselves, based on ideas thousands of years old. As in the mysteries and religions, there is an exoteric Star Wars story-- such as the color purple is just Mace Windu's favorite color. Many people will not care to be anything but entertained, and they're not ready to seek deeper meanings. Then there is an esoteric Star Wars that reveals truths about ourselves and the world we live in. Purple/violet is symbolic as the top of the visible spectrum of light, and it's the polar opposite of Red at the other end of the visible spectrum. In a myth about enlightenment, that then becomes an artistic representation of spirit and matter, and of duality. Light and dark. These have to be balanced.

    The three prequel movies were about the fall of consciousness, and how when we fall in consciousness, that manifests outwardly, were we end up with an empire, and the whole world goes to hell-- a hell we create with our minds, and act out on the world stage. It stops when we overcome our inner Palpatine and refuse to act out that drama. That's why in the last movie, it's the people that rise up, the ultimate victory of Luke Skywalker shining his light across the galaxy, and the light is restored. In the end you see Luke and Leia, the sun and moon rise to full illumination, together, and their lights are placed together into the material world. Rey is now the temple guard with a yellow light made from the broken staff of duality, between the ascended and the below, where Palpatine has been put down, and she's between spirit and matter. She reconciles with Ben, each giving up some of their life so the other can live, and they bring the light and dark together into one, balanced. The struggle inside of us where we find a happy middle way. Too much light, you go blind and boil up, too little light and you're in the dark.
     
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    One organization interested in the mysteries and comparative religion/mythology is Freemasonry. Here is that same symbol repeated.
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    Compass draws the circle = spirit, eternal, no beginning no end, hard to measure, unity.
    Square = matter, base
    G = 7, between spirit and matter, George (kidding), 7th letter of the alphabet, described by Albert Pike.

    The same symbolic meaning is in architecture. The temple of Solomon in the bible. Outside the temple, where you see the fire and water is in the world. If you want to enter the sacred space, you have to bring the fire and water together first. Make a sacrifice and purify. The symbol for bringing the fire and water together, the sun and the moon, is the seal of Solomon.

    You go through the door between two columns and now you're in the space that represents spirit, or your higher non-animal non-material consciousness.. The real temple is inside of us. The lost ark is in our heads. We've lost the connection to the holy of holies, behind the veil where the ark was placed. Inside the temple, you're illuminated by the 7 candle lights, and nourished by the bread. Blow out the 7 candles, and there's the Knights of Ren, and also the 7 chakras. Ben has to struggle with these 7 things before he can join with Rey.

    If we equate those symbols to Star Wars ending, Rey might stand on the temple porch, between the sun and moon columns, between opposites, and between the inner temple spirit and the outer world matter, with the temple guardian's yellow lightsaber.
     
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    The tree in TLJ contains the knowledge of good and evil in the sacred texts, at the the place of origin of the Jedi. The woman takes from the tree, and tells the man to put some clothes on. That's Adam and Eve from the bible. That, and the yin-yang symbol on the ground hint at duality. Then in the next movie Rey and Ben are called a dyad in the force. Two joined in the one force.

    If you look at alchemy symbols, in the end, they maybe should merge into one as the hermaphrodite.
    https://occult-world.com/hermaphrodite/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebis
    Is that what it means that they're a force dyad?

    Look over the heads in this image. 7 again. And there's the sun, the moon, the compass and square.
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    The prequels drop hints that the whole saga is about consciousness, how it falls, how it's transformed, and how the world is healed in the end. The ending does fit in with the whole myth, even if the story wasn't to someone's liking. Naboo I think comes from the ancient god Nabu in ancient mesopotamian mythology.

    Nabu can be compared to the Greek Hermes, a character that represents consciousness and mind. The queen that reigns over the mind in the SW prequels is Padme. Padme in our eastern world is a lotus, a sacred symbol. This sacredness or spiritual essence is in secret relationship in our consciousness. It's a surprise that this sacred thing is in charge, as she has a body double to conceal her identity. Then later, she has secret wedding to Anakin. Nobody knows we're in a secret relationship with this divine principle. If we knew it, we wouldn't let this one get away. When that relationship is cut, the sacred flower dies, and the whole galaxy goes to hell. The light that shines from within (Luke, sun) no longer shines in the world (Leia, moon) because the connection to the sacred in consciousness is lost. She no longer rules over consciousness as queen. Palpatine the devil rules. Therefore, the light and the place where that light shines in the world are divided up-- Luke and Leia, the children of that sacred flower. The galaxy falls into darkness with consciousness.

    Episodes 4,5,6, the originals, The sunlight has to go rescue the world in darkness, the moonlight trapped in the dark new moon, learn about his secret relationship to the light on the moon, and liberate it from bondage (also later, slave Leia). The dark new moon (our world in psychological, spiritual darkness) is destroying whole worlds, likened to our own people's state of consciousness that has wired the whole planet with nuclear weapons and has brought us to the brink of extinction.

    7,8,9. After Luke and Leia are joined, the light is returning to the world. The force is awakening inside of the people. The people are the heroes of the final trilogy. Finn, one of the stormtroopers, who are programmed to be cold killers, is having feelings-- feelings of love, caring, humanity. The sun lights the moon, the sun and moon ascend together. The moon's offspring that had fallen into darkness-- is reborn. Through that transformed consciousness, he helps save the day. He ascends in consciousness. Alchemy- sun and moon together.

    sunmoonhermes.jpg

    Ben finished what his grandfather started. His mended mask is symbolic of all the people who have healed the cracks in their own lives and have the battle scars-- the spice runner, the stormtroopers, etc., and they arose to keep darkness down. Luke Skywalker was not the hero of the trilogy because the people, inspired by Luke Skywalker, were on their own hero journey. You are the hero. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
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