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The Last Jedi - General Movie Discussion

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by DarthSnow, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. DarthSnow

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    Even though I totally agree with you, I kind of get the other side of it. I think.

    Throughout the OT, all we saw was Luke struggle. Which was great -- hey, he's just like me! He finally started figuring it out by the end of RotJ... and then poof. No more Luke Skywalker. We don't get to see him anymore when we know he is at the height of his power and he has to be doing amazing things. And then, finally we do see him again after 35 years and.... he's back to struggling. We get the beginning of his journey, and then (somewhat unexpectedly) we get the end. We miss out on everything else in the middle.

    If Luke's life was a rollercoaster that we could ride, it would have one of the longest chain-clinking climbs in the world; the hype, fear, anticipation would be building to absurd heights. And then instead of experiencing the actual ride, it just lets you off at the top and its over.

    ...that might be a terrible metaphor, but hopefully you get what I'm trying to say. And why I get why some were left feeling hollow after TLJ and why many felt a bit vindicated after seeing the S2 finale of Mando.
     
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    I personally really like the movie !! I think the characters are pretty great and the story is flowing.

    obviously there is a lot of criticism over the sequels and everyone is entitled to their own view, but I love them !! The way Luke is rebellious towards training a new generation of Jedi due to Kylo’s fall is great and the expansion on Rey’s force abilities is incredible ! I would personally not of changed much to this movie as I think it is a solid performance from Disney. :D

    would love to know others thoughts !!
     
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    More from Sariah Wilson on her interview with RJ







     
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    I hope Rian’s trilogy happens. I think it could be very good
     
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    According to that same interview it is still in the works, not canceled!
     
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    why, of all the films , I thought it the weakest of all, and that includes the awful prequels, in fact it put me off the whole franchise, particularly with all the nonsense spewed forth by lucas films and disney employees on social media,
     
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    I love the Last Jedi. Of all the films, I thought it was the strongest of all, and a return to form following the prequels. I don't pay attention to what is said on social media and I certainly don't let what might be said there by Lucasfilm or Disney employees influence my opinion of a film, because it has nothing to do with the quality of the movie itself.
     
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    Amen to that... had social media been around when RotJ was released we'd have seen 3yrs of posts about bounty hunter's being consumed, sentient teddy bears and 'what do you mean she was his sister all along' :D
     
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    The awful prequels are in the bottom of my list for hundreds of reasons. Even TROS that took a strange way, for my taste, is a better movie than any of the PT.

    Answering your question in a briefly way (because TLJ was already dissected by a lot of members of these foruns):

    - Here we see the best Luke Skywalker, in an artistic way, with Mark Hamill being perfect in his acting skills. Also we see the beautiful of Luke's arch, from a desolated man that isolated himself in the island untill becoming a legend and an inspiration to the galaxy, at the end of the movie;

    - The movie is full of "little details" and plays with the subject of duality in an intelligent way;

    - Most beautiful photography and visuals of the saga. Especially in Crait and in the throne room;

    - Canto Bight, love everything there.
     
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    cool, I am about character arc and writing, the visuals are not that important to me , i live in the most beautiful part of the world
    so io didnt like that rey was made all powerdul from day 1, luke had to work for it
     

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    Yeah, I also remember that time Luke woke up a farm boy, led a successful rescue mission into the Death Star, then jumped in an X-Wing for the first time and blew up said Death Star with the aid of a mystical power that he had only just heard about a few hours earlier.
     
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    they had established that luke was a good pilot back in tattine, and has at least some minimal training from ben, and needed to be rescued by han at the end, he wasnt all powerful from day 1
     
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    Right but he was subconsciously using the force which helped make him a great pilot.

    A) The only reason he made it down the trench run with out Vader frying his ass was the force Vader even says “ Force Is Strong With This One “ while trying to get a target lock n his X-Wing ie with out the force Luke would have been taken out as easily as the other rebel plots Vader took down.

    B) He use the force to make the shot that blew up the Death Star. Ben tells him to trust his feelings. He then turns of his targeting computer something everyone else think is a crazy decision & makes the shot no problem I.E his belief in the Force something he has very little training in at this point .

    So it’s his instinctive use of the force that gets Luke to where he is at the end of ESP IV & for me Rey does something very similar in The Force Awakens.
     
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    luke had some training, rey had non

    then fast forward to her meeting with luke, still no training and is more powerful tahn kylo and luke, luke had force but still needed training on dagoba from yoda and had 30+ yeas of experience over rey who had no training and no experience fighting or force.
     
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    And where is that?
     
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    Fuglafjarðar, Føroyar,
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    there are many places here that would be a great back drop for a movie like star wars
     

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    Very nice. The first one kind of looks like Ach to.
     
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    it is home
     
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    I just recently watched the ST again over a few weekends in order (7, 8 and then 9). As many know here, I enjoyed TFA and TROS but have been a critic of TLJ as I don't hate the movie, but the portrayal of Luke in the movie just never sat well with me.

    This time I watched TLJ in the context that Luke KNEW that Rey was a Palpatine (as he said in TROS to her that even Leia knew). I know this is only my intrepretation, but Luke's portrayal works better for me now as I think that Rey being a Palpatine and wanting to be a Jed is a no-go for him. That's where the lightsaber flip comes from as he's almost saying, "Are you kidding me, you want a descendent of the most evil man in the galaxy to be trained to be a Jedi?????" Especially after what happened with Kylo Ren, Rey training and possibly turning to the darkside would be a double whammy to the galaxy.

    Obviously by the end of the movie, he sees the error of his ways with Rey and comes back to protect the Resistance. This is furthered in TROS where he gives Rey the talk she needs to coax her back to reality that she has to face Palpatine. But my context for Luke is that he didn't want to train a Palpatine, and I know that many will disagree because that wasn't Rian Johnson's context (at the time), but it works for me.
     
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    That was a question that could have been asked about Luke. Especially when, as far as we knew at that time, Vader was the most evil man in the galaxy. In fact Yoda more or less did ask it.

    I think Luke’s reluctance is credible even without her ancestry coming into it. The question of whether he’s equipped and suitable to train anybody to be the galaxy’s new hope is just as relevant on its own.
     
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