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The Last Jedi Post-Premiere Leaks

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Paul Dameron, Dec 10, 2017.

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    Luke dies. He apparently gets his power drained because he's at different places at the same time.

    - Kylo and Rey team up. They defeat what he calls "Snoke" However, that apparently doesn't mean that Kylo turns good. He still remains in the First Order


    - Rey becomes stronger.

    - Leia remains in the Resistance. Doesn't die.

    This is a short synopsis I have read that has similar points to other longer posts I have seen
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    I'm not saying that I believe this but so far I haven't seen anyone that has seen the film that says Luke's fate or Snokes fate is not true.
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    PS...if because of the embargo this thread shouldn't be posted please delete it. I didn't know.

    Thread labeled as Spoiiler and renamed -Bosc
     
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    Thanks for spoiler tags...but I don't believe none of that is true anyway. And that comes from one person I even know the source. He also stated several things that he got wrong. The children's books say otherwise. I don't believe he's seen the movie at all.
     
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    Pawn:

    Luke has acheived unimaginable, in fact he is so powerfull that he knows using this power for his interest makes things worse.

    Luke,R2D2 and spirit of Yoda reunite on Ahch-To after like on Dagobah after many decades, closing circle of Luke's destiny(and life).

    This leads to change in Luke's attitude to train Rey..

    He ends his physical life in way that has not been seen ever, people can not even properly describe it...I think its a transcendence in the Force. He will be acting trough the nexus (that circle in First Jedi temple with First Jedi depicted) and act against space-time and bilocate. He acheived power and knowledge of the First Jedi himself.

    People talk about bilocation, because he transceded crude matter while still alive, but probably at the cost of loosing body.

    Anyway, strange leaks, maybe its because there is no true leaks..but why not talk....;)
     
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    “because he's at different places at the same time.“

    What exactly does this mean?
    And how can we be sure this isn’t a fake rumor?
    and please, please please.... no time travel. Star Wars deserves better.
     
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    We can't but this one is written totally differently in styles but has most of the same points.

    Resistance is blown to hell at beginning.
    There is a plot of about tracking to lightspeed so Resistance will not go to lightspeed. Entire movie is FO chasing Resistance.
    Finn are dispatched to find how not to track in lightspeed.
    Finn and Rose and BB-8 goes to Casino looking for Code ******* to get him onboard to disable tracking device of FO.
    Poe is till hot shot pilot and goes rogue pilot and blows up missle/air defenses. Leia is pissed at him and demotes him for going Rogue. He causes mutiny and towards end of film but helps Resistence escape to planet.
    Luke uses his lightsaber in two flash back scenes.
    Rey leaves Luke and goes to fight Kylo.
    HUMOR Porgs are everywhere. Chewbacca accidentally kills one and almost eats one. Three porgs show up with sad eyes and he does not.
    Battle between Rey and Kylo is not final battle of movie. Kylo kills Snoke. Kylo and Rey team up. Rey does not turn. Rey escapes. Reys lightsaber is destroyed and does not have one at end.
    Final battle is between Luke and Kylo but Luke is still on Achto and projecting his image and never leaves Achto. He has so much Force power to project himself. He dies at end. Force drained.
    Luke does talk to Leia but its his projected image.
    Kylo is super evil at end. Luke should have killed him when he had a chance at academy or will he be redeemed in #9.
    Movie ends with everyone on Falcon reunited Rey, Leia, Poe, Finn, R2, Chewbacca, BB-8. Resistance is really done. Rey does not have lightsaber at end. But can retrieve Luke’s on Achto.
    Also movie ends with Leia alive so 9 should have been her movie most likely converting Kylo back to good side. No sure where they will go with that now.

    His thoughts:

    I thought it would be cool if Luke showed up after Snoke dies with Rey and Kylo teaming up being the Super Bad Guy. But NO does not happen.

    Also while on Achto Snoke allows REy and Kylo to talk through force so you think these two are Brother and Sister or related but this turn out not to be true. But does
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    I have heard of some spinal thing Finn wears too and has to be energized or recharged every hour...or else he is paralyzed.
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    Yes hologram Leia convincing Luke to train Rey. Not Yoda. I heard months ago a spoiler where he started training her then stopped because she was too powerful and had to be convinced to continue.
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    Don't get me wrong I hate this Luke dead...Snoke dead theory :-(. Also if Rey was infact born on Jakku and her parents were scavengers. Could still be someone important in the force. Remember after the battle of Jakku many people from both sides put down roots on Jakku. Which is canon and also I believe it is canon that Palpatine was placing Sith Holycrons in the planets core.
     
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    It is the full cirlce closed.


    Yoda died many decades before leaving to Luke burdeon of the Last Jedi

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    Spirit of Yoda, Luke and R2D2 reunite on Ahch-To.

    Luke decides to train Rey who will became the last Jedi, while he..acheives power of the First Jedi and trancends anything ever seen before his death.

    I want that.
     
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    “Reys lightsaber is destroyed and does not have one at end.“

    This makes no sense, because the children book leak shows Luke tossing the blue lightsaber off the cliff.
    So... what does Rey use for the majority of the movie?
     
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    The same book had her retrieving it if I recall correctly.
     
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    That’s what I mean.. Luke tosses it in the sea, Rey retrieves it, presumably she uses it for the rest of the movie.....
    So once her lightsaber is destroyed, she has nothing. You say: “But can retrieve Luke’s on Achto.” This isn’t possible.
     
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    She’s going to have to make her own now I guess like Luke before ROTJ. That means there will have to be a time lapse between 8 and 9. Gah I can’t wait to see this.
     
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    Though I gotta say, if these leaks are true, then TLJ is gonna be a HORRIBLE film and I might be done with Star Wars after this film, I mean seriously? Kylo goes full raging dark side and vertically slashes Snoke in half killing and then becoming God Emperor of the galaxy? It's been implied and stated that Snoke is the most powerful Dark Sider and Kylo just easily wins?

    And Luke....Never leaves Ahch-To and "projects" himself to Crait and fights on Crait and dies from Force Exhaustion?

    Oh sweet baby Jesus I need a drink
     
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    He explains that too. So did someone else. He throws it over his shoulder like it's trash and Rey goes to retrieve it using the force I believe he said as it was on a rocky ledge. He throws it right after she hands it to him evidently.
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    Maybe he has the green one there?
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    I agree. But evidently it makes sense in the story perhaps? Just reading bullet points I would not think this would get glowing reviews. Perhaps it makes sense in the storyline which is why I have also read for people please not to read spoilers...lol because it will turn them off of the film like it did here.
     
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    And then other leakers say Luke uses both his green and blue lightsabers
     
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    I guess the visual dictionary also has a mosiac in the first or second Jedi temple which appears to represent Snoke. Which insinuates he is very old and very powerful so hard to believe he will go easily into that dark night. The one spoiler I read did also say when Snoke is punishing Rey and trying to turn her to the dark side he says he trained and Emperor. Now this might insinuate he trained Palpatine but the original poster thought they were talking about another Sith Emperor.
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    So this could be the one she can retrieve on Ach To
     
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    The killing-Snoke story I”m ok with because Snoke is extremely vulnerable under the right cirumstances, we’ve heard.
    The Luke-projecting himself-thing.........why? Whoop-dee-doo, Luke can do what everyone else can do via hologram!
     
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    Right from a certain point of view...lol I don't believe you can kill a hologram...
     
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    If any of this is true, then I will be very disappointed. Killing off Han and Luke back to back will further sour my opinion of the ST. Then, if all this build up for Snoke is to just have him killed off in the second movie that he appears in is also disappointing and bush league in script writing. I pre bought my tickets, and will be there, but this just seems highly disappointing.
     
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    But if Luke stays on Ach-To and projects himself to wherever-he-needs-to-go.... does killing the projection also kill the host or not? Can Luke project himself 500 times in 500 difference places? This sounds awfully similar to Lord Voldemort’s Horcruxes.
     
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    There is a theory that it *could* be Snoke because it somewhat resembles him. It's a very interesting theory, actually... Snoke as the first Jedi. But that's different from "appears to represent Snoke."

    Just wanted to shine a little clarity there.
     
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    Also, the Skywalker saber apparently gets destroyed and Rey in Episode IX will go and retrieve Luke's saber on Ahch-To
     
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