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The Love Relationship Between Jyn & Cassian

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Kylo Solo, Jan 13, 2017.

  1. Kylo Solo

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    Did anyone else after watching Rogue One, think the love relationship between Jyn & Cassian seem rather forced? Granted, I have sadly only seen the movie once since its been in theaters but it still seemed kinda forced to me.

    What say you?
     
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    I saw it as more flirty than anything...they should have built upon it more and focused the story more on them instead of the group as a whole, which, in my opinion, sort of weakened the characters more
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    There was only one moment that didn't work for me. When their code works and they're given access through the shield over Scarif, Jyn and Cassian have an awkward moment when they celebrate the news. I think they do a good job showing us that this is *not* a romantic relationship, but that one moment seemed to contradict it.
     
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    I believe they handled the characters of Rogue One admirably; if you were able to pick up and read the novel "Catalyst" before watching the film it provides a depth to the characters which some may not understand from afar just watching the film; From the beginning in my opinion a distaint for each other turn into a mutual understanding and fondness that the mission they've chosen to accept was one where trust and loyalty was needed between each other. Because of this while it may appear as "flirting or romantic in nature at times" - they were also comforting eachother in the fact that they would never make it off Scarif. Rogue One showed us, the Rebellion at it's finest, dirtest, and most undiplomatic. It to the undying willingness of Jyn to turn the tide. The symertic balance was perfect.
     
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    I get that it's two humans comforting each other but depending on how long the timespan is for the movie, it doesnt make sense they'd be THAT close.
     
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    Agreed.

    My response was not to imply they were close; just that Jyn and Cassian knew what was happening and understood the consequences; I believe there was nothing romantic involved. I hope I didn't imply I did in my previous post


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    Yeah, idk whos next to me but i'd at least hug jar jar for comfort if i was there.
     
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    I thought a major strength of the movie was that their relationship was NOT forced, and was not romantic. It would be so easy and cheesy to do what so many other blockbusters do and make them kiss at some point. Here, I felt their relationship didn't need that at all. They were proud of each other and at peace when they died together, embracing yes, but more as deeply bonded warriors than lovers.
     
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    I don't think there was more attraction there than the basic physical attraction a woman of Jyn Erso's hottness and Cassian Andor's hottness would feel towards each other. Otherwise I just thought it was good chemistry. I know it's been awhile since a SW had that but it is what it is.
     
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    There was no love relationship. There was only human connection between two people who achieved the impossible and accepted their ending and everything that it entails, including the fact that they would never know if what they achieved would actually help the Rebellion. They comforted each other and possibly understood each better there at the end.

    I appreciated that the filmmakers didn't force the relationship, but hinted at the unfulfilled potential. If they survived, maybe it is possible that their joint experience would have led them that way. Then again, maybe it wouldn't have as they were both complicated people.

    It's natural that our minds go there, they are both easy on the eyes and their chemistry was great, but there was no love relationship.
     
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    I think by the time they are at the top of the tower, Jyn and Cassian had overcome their antagonism and come to a place of mutual trust and formed a bond not unlike that between Chirrut and Jyn (clasping her hand at various times) and between Baze and Jyn (calling her "little sister"). I think that can happen quickly and solidly in life-and-death situations.

    However, I think you could argue from the looks they give each other in the elevator coming down that there's chemistry there, and there's a feeling of "what might have been" if, you know, they had more than ten minutes to live. Their embrace at the end is, I think, just basic "human" comfort in the face of death. (Like @AstromechRecords, I'd have even hugged Jar-Jar in that moment. :p)

    There wasn't time in the movie to develop a romance between them, but I think there is room to interpret either "there was no romantic feeling between them" or "they were attracted to each other but there was no opportunity for it to become anything more."
     
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    I guess it would have developed over time, had they survived.
     
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    That was a suicide mission not a romance. Respect and trust grew during the whole movie. Not love.

    They hugged before dying ... Who won't ?
     
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    There wasn't enough time really to build anything. There at the last, it reminded me of a Canadian movie called "Last Night" about the end of the world and the scene where the father and the daughter are on the beach in "Deep Impact". In Last Night, it isn't a romantic relationship, but a friendship that is built on the hours they spend together, she loves her husband very much, but when you have a situation like that, you grab what you can. Hell, Jyn and Cassian could have kissed and it wouldn't have necessarily been romantic, just well, it's an overwhelming thing when the end comes.
     
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    There is no love relationship between the characters, and that was great. They just left the question open, we don't see them kissing, even in the last scene than both died the don't kiss each other. Liked that way.
     
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    And believe me, the way they set it up was perfect to feed a lot of the fanfictions being posted out there LOL.

    I guess the beauty of it was exactly that, both had chemistry and went from being antagonists to become part of a team in a suicide mission. Of course the might-have-been scenarios would appear in the eyes of the spectators naturally. And them being complicated people it's not a big deal if you think of the other two having the great love story of Star Wars - the Princess and the Scoundrel - are not the easiest people to deal with either LOL.

    Agree.

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    It was only a matter of time before tribute videos got involved.
     
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