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The Love Relationship Between Jyn & Cassian

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Kylo Solo, Jan 13, 2017.

  1. cawatrooper

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    I think that's the tragedy of it, though. If they had survived the mission, it's very possible they would have fallen love. But they simply did not have enough time.

    Look at two relationships (not necessarily of the romantic variety) Jyn has in Rogue One- one with Cassian, the other with Baze. Cassian and Jyn have good chemistry, and could potentially get together if they'd survive. But, you know, they don't.

    Her and Baze, on the other hand, barely interact, and in a kind of awkward moment he ends up calling her "little sister". Obviously he's not to be taken literally, but that still seems pretty intimate given how they've barely shared any lines in the film.

    So, yeah, I prefer the way she was handled with Cassian rather than Baze. I don't think Cassian and Jyn were forced at all.
     
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    I'm glad that they avoided a kiss between the two of them in the last few minutes. I liked both characters and I liked their relationship but I don't think they developed them together well enough to pull off a romance.

    It would've taken the film down a notch if they threw that in there.
     
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    I just read something that makes a lot of sense: Jyn in some way is quite similar to Han Solo. She is not committed to the Rebellion as Cassian, who has basically lived the Rebellion since he was a little boy - though she ends up fighting to accomplish what her father started when he developed the Death Star with a flaw inside, so it could be destroyed by the Rebel Alliance. Han Solo is this smuggler not committed to anything - or to anyone - but his heart ends up doing the right choice so he helps to save the day. That is why I think that, if they have had the time and they'd survived Scarif, there could be a potential towards a relationship between them.

    And I have been wondering that this is not exclusive for these two couples - well, one confirmed couple and another potential one. For example, we see the same dynamic between Hera and Kanan, or Padme and Anakin. Hera has been living most of her life as part of a fight, first as part of his father struggle against the Separatists and afterwards as part of the nascent Rebel Alliance; Padme has been working in politics since a very young age, fighting for her people as their queen and later committed to justice as part of the Galactic Senate. Their counterparts are not as devoted to duty as them: Kanan is running first from his old self and his past that is no more, but then becoming a Rebel; Anakin is becoming a Jedi - a great one - but he's always struggling in one way or another, and we do know the end of it.
     
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    I thought there was certaily some chemistry in the end. But a kiss would've been too much. How they looked at each other on the eleavator was powerful though, they really got the moment. There were at least 4 couples in the front of me in the cinema, and they all shared a kiss at that moment and at the beach scene.
    I could really see them become a couple if they'd survived. And that is way more than what I can say about Padme and Anakin.
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    I thought it was deliberate. They kind of set up their romance at that scene imo.
     
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    Indeed.

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    This is the most tragic part of the movie for me, after everything that happened there was no guarantee any of it would be of use or lead to anything. Had Vader retrieved the plans before the Tantive shot away, had Luke missed his shot etc...

    Also, it's a shame their heroics were never mentioned again (yes I know time travel isn't available to change the 1977 version, or George Lucas for that matter) but the medal ceremony at the end of ANH now seems a bit...insensitive, or maybe, just odd - no mention of the scoundrels that did the heroic and dirty work that set everything up

    Obviously this is unavoidable, but still irks me in the tiniest way

    Back to topic!
     
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    Tragic, and yet all too real, in and beyond Star Wars, because the aftereffects of belief and consequences of words and actions can take years to play out and reveal their results.

    For Rogue One, it was very much about sending hope into the future, kind of like that Sting song: "Send your love into the future."


    History pivots on the slightest detail. So many what-if questions linger in Star Wars and our own world. Had Luke not raced from Dagobah against the wishes of Yoda and Obi-Wan, who knows what would have happened?

    Much of this also reflects the active yet subtle role of the Will of the Force playing out across the saga -- and the sense of fate and karma in our own world.


    I think the in-saga reference will always come down to the opening crawl of Episode IV.

    That "first victory" surely was hard-fought and contains a world of meaning thanks to what we learned in Rogue One.

    This reminds me a bit of that exchange from Episode II between Obi-Wan and Yoda, where the sense of "victory" was not as positive as one might presume given what was lost or what further stands to be impacted:

    Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the clones, it would have not been a victory.

    Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen.​



    Perhaps we can come to regard that as a symbolic celebration commemorating all those who fought and sacrificed for the greater cause of the Rebellion.

    Certainly, entirely within Episode IV, we witness many, during the Death Star battle, sacrificing all to spare the galaxy of the Empire's relentless tyrranny.

    The manifestation of hope -- Luke's and the Rebellion's -- requires nothing less than the convergence of all contributing factors, Obi-Wan, the Force, and Han Solo included.

    The Empire was that dangerous, and overcoming it's darkness at that point demanded such a synergy of sacrifice.

    It was a truly shared endeavor which enabled Luke Skywalker to complete the first major part of his hero's journey.

    So too is it with our world, and the unity we must work to achieve and sustain to repel the forces of darkness wherever they threaten to emerge and take root.
     
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    There didn't need to be any romance necessarily...what I loved was the chemistry throughout leading to their dismiss. I don't see it as a love relationship...more like companionship...they were each others companion throughout the mission and as they were putting aside their differences at best, the more they grew to trust each other going into the third act.

    I really like the elevator scene...during that moment, you can definitely feel the chemistry radiating between them as they gaze into the others eyes in the darkness that eventually consumes them both at the end.
     
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    I honestly did not see nor expect anything more than a plutonic relationship between Jyn and Cassian. At most, I would agree with most of you, that there were obvious flirtatious periods between them, yet the priority mission seemed to always be the main focus for both of them, disabling most opportunity for any romance. Besides, Jyn and Cassian have great partnership chemistry, but some of their individual views on some small details clash at times. Given the fact that the both of them had a pretty well-rounded estimate that the battle on Scariff would be a one-way mission, it's easy to accept their hug during their demise. I was exceptionally satisfied at the fact that there was no kiss.

    (boba fett)
     
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    I was totally shipping Director Krennic and K2-SO but it did not happen....

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Really?! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    I was so sure K2S0 and C3P0 would end up together!!!

    #DroidRomanceMatters
     
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