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The Mandalorian General Discussion

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Choose Light, Feb 16, 2020.

  1. Darth Derringer

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    That was one hell of a comeback, @eeprom !!!
     
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    It wasn't. My original message was literally me just sharing that the show has another fan in the form of my friend and saying "you've got another one!", and that my recommended wasn't heeded and he's thankful it wasn't heeded. That's it. No more authorial intent investigation needed. It was exactly as it said on the tin and was supposed to be a positive thing.
     
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    Well then, back to the fun discussions about the Mandalorian in general :)
     
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    I think the main focus of Star Wars now is going to be building Grogu’s character he will most likely be the new face of Star Wars. The Skywalker lineage will continue whoever they are will be a main character. We are most likely going to see Grogu later down the line and a reboot of Jedi versus Sith.

    Here’s my prediction,

    A new Jedi order is reformed. Peace throughout the galaxy. A threat lurking in the unknown. A reboot of Sith and Jedi war. It will all start from the point after Rise Of Skywalker. And will take place maybe 100 to 200 years in the future when Grugu is much older.

    As of now they will build up his character along with Din and all the others, but sooner or later he will be the face.
     
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    You are right, good Sir, Grogu is the new face of Star Wars. Since Luke, Han, and Leia in ANH, no SW character has immediately captured the fans attention like ‘Baby Yoda’ did. And if Episode 6 of TBoBF told us anything, it’s that the fans’ fascination with Grogu isn’t going away anytime soon.

    Regarding the Skywalker lineage, I suspect an effort will be made to resurrect Rey —and it would have worked if she was been shown to be Luke’s long lost daughter.

    But Palpatine’s granddaughter? Really?
    They can try calling her Skywalker, but IMHO most SW fans aren’t going to buy it. Lucasfilm had their chance to establish her lineage but they blew it.
     
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    I think it's weird for anyone to treat a piece of fiction made for their entertainment that way. There are a lot of things that can be said to define parts of the fandom. Not all of them are good and their acceptance and practice by some doesn't make them any less weird to me.

    Star Wars is definitely not a religion and you can't excuse or normalise certain behaviour on that basis.
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    I know that Rey isn't strictly adopted but it is symbolic of a discovered kinship and belonging. To say that it is invalid because of lack of blood relation is a fairly bleak message to anyone who has adoptive parents or to adoptive parents themselves.
     
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    I got the distinct impression from @Meister Yoda that it would be best if we kept this thread on topic, so I’ll do my best to tie this back in to the The Mandalorian :)
    I absolutely agree with that statement. There’s certainly no shortage of normal human behavior that I personally find to be outright baffling. ‘Misplaced aggression’, for one. Someone being angry about one thing and then projecting that hostility on to someone else. I don’t get it. Makes no sense to me.

    But it’s very natural. Just about everyone is guilty of having done that at some point or other in their lives. So while I might find the behavior ‘odd’, it isn’t. It’s so common in fact that what would actually be odd is if there was someone who didn’t do that.
    Anything with a passionate following behind it will organically build a culture around that thing. That culture will inevitably spawn subcultures. Those subcultures will most often not agree with another and present their relation in terms of ‘us versus them’. That’s not an “excuse”. It just is. Community is a double-edged sword. It has its benefits and its drawbacks.

    It’s something we see at play in The Mandalorian (see, on topic). There’s a Mandalorian culture. Within that culture, distinct subcultures have emerged. Those subcultures don’t agree with the other’s perspective and what it means to be a “real” Mandalorian. Both are convinced their own perspective is correct and the other’s perspective is wrong. Instead of their similarities bringing them together, their differences are pulling them apart.

    That’s not to say that the behavior is something to be accepted as immutable and unchanging. That’s the principle behind growth and betterment: recognizing these inherent, natural flaws within us, and around us, and striving to evolve beyond them. That, at its core, is what George’s story is all about.
     
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    Remember midway through s1 of Mando when some people were complaining that Filoni, Chow and Famuyiwa were making cameos as the X Wing pilots? :rolleyes:
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    I'm talking about people who's priorities regarding any new SW material is being able to identify a line of division. Even when they have no strong feelings about the material or the supposed line of division itself. I don't mean people who become protective of their own opinions or opposed to others. I mean people that thrive on the idea that there are losers and winners each time a new film, show or episode comes out. And will spend their time trying to identify those winners and losers, even if they don't exist.
     
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    Book of Boba Fett came and just ended. It had it's moments but now we are finally on the road to Mandalorian S3!
     
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    Thinking of which way it’s going in the future, In my opinion, I don’t see why Mando should be returning to Mandalore to be redeemed by the living waters. If the next time Grogu wants to see his face, Mando is going to show it. What does he do then? Well; it’s off to get dunked again. That’s going to get old fast.
    I think a better adventure is for Mando to take Grogu back to his home world. Mando can visit Luke and talk him into calling up force-ghost Yoda. It would be fun to see Yoda and Grogu interacting with one another. Yoda should be able to tell them where he and Grogu come from, or, at least, get them in the ballpark. The trip to Grogu’s home world could be a cool adventure and the climax would be to actually see his home world.
     
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    Unpopular opinion here, I imagine.

    Does anyone else always get the sense of being slightly pulled out of the reality in any scene involving Peli Motto? Don't get me wrong I love Amy Sedaris and I think she's definitely a plus to both show so far. But it always feels like she's a cast member at disneyland Galaxy's Edge, or an actor at some theme park attraction. Mando is like a cos playing customer who has payed for the authentic GFFA experience and Amy is one of this people who come out and bark their spontaneous scripted "characterisation" to enhance the illusion. It still works so well since Amy is effortlessly irreverent and so clearly having a ball that it almost seems sometimes like that's what her character is in universe. Creating a reality where she runs a respectable, totally legitimate body shop. But in the hands of someone else playing the role, the Peli Motto scenes had the potential to be a real "fan-splitter*".

    (* by fan splitter I mean one of the many things that the fans will either like/ don't like so much but keep it in proportion, or fans will declare it an omen for the end of Star Wars and how they quickly need to identify whoever is responsible for this casting/writing/exec producing choice and fire her :p)
     
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    The character definitely gives me Matt the Radar Tech SNL parody vibes. I wouldn’t say I’m necessarily taken out of the story. But whenever she shows up I know I have to buckle in for some “hilarious” shtick that’s brief and tolerable enough.
     
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    I obviously can't speak for anyone else but I have grown to love any scene that involves Peli Motto.

    Amy Sedaris took a minor, presumably one-shot appearance and by the sheer force of her personality and comedic talents, turned Peli into a 'fan favorite' who appears to have become a semi-regular character.

    Her appearance in TBoBF Episode 5 was an exceptional 5-Star performance in my opinion. The whole "let's rebuild an old hot rod" scenario would have been fun for all the automobile & airplane enthusiasts and spacecraft hobbiests watching the show. But IMHO, Amy's dynamite performance gave it a lively, funny and playful vibe that everybody could enjoy -- even the non-techie type fans who could have cared less about refurbishing a Naboo fighter.
     
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    Absolutely, 100% agreed. Peli Motto has fast become one of my probably top 5 all-time favorite SW characters. And personally, I have no interest in motors and machines, so the scene, for me, is so glorious because of Motto's precense in it alone. I love that woman! :D
     
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    I can understand what you are saying here. Every time she comes on the screen, I'm about 90% sure she's ad-libbing her lines from her schtick repertoire and Jon F. is standing offscreen convulsed in laughter, just letting the cameras roll. She's often just a shade OTT.

    Also, I do not need to know that she knows that Jawas are furry.

    That said, I can't help but like her.

    First of all, she's a rare SW character--an average-Jane middle-aged woman in the GFFA doing an average middle-class job. She's not a Jedi or a bounty hunter or a Twi'lek dancer or a politician or a warrior or a mother (of a known child) who will therefore likely get offed. (Being an average-Jane middle-aged woman doing an average middle-class job myself, I identify.) Second, she gives us great comic relief, especially because she's such a feisty and lively foil for grumpy, silent Din, and she gets away with teasing him ("Stop crying, you'll rust!"). Third, she genuinely cares about Din and Grogu in her brusque way.

    This last category is where TBOBF ch. 5 really cemented her on my Like List. Yes, she is a bit of a trickster, and clearly she wasn't entirely honest with Din about having a replacement ship for him. She's going to make a profit out of the restoration of this starfighter. But the way she draws him into repairing it... Yes, it's for her benefit too, but she seems to understand that somehow (though she knows only that the kid is gone and that he needs a new ship) doing the work of restoring it and even flying it will go a long way toward healing some of the ragged places in Din's soul in this very dark place. You have only to see her coaxing him into helping with his own hands. Look at her watching him once they've rolled it out into the open bay of the garage. Listen how gently (at first ;)) she encourages him to try flying again.

    So yeah, anyone who does my favorite character Din such a solid gets a pass from me. :cool:
     
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    My gut tells me you nailed it, @Choose Light.There is a scene from the Star Wars Gallery "making of" Season 2 where Favreau is outlining the Mos Espa hanger scene for the crew in Episode 1 where he warns them tongue-in-cheek, "As you know with Amy, things might get off road a little bit so be prepared..."
     
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    Personally, it's never affected my viewing - but that could be because (being UK based) I've never seen SNL and hadn't encountered Sedaris anywhere else prior to her appearance in Mando. I'd imagine it must be stranger for those of you Stateside who know these faces from other media - a bit like how I felt about Adrian Edmondson and Richard E Grant's appearances in TLJ and TROS.
     
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    I'm from the UK too. I had seen some of Sedaris work before. It's really the way she enters every scene she's on. She's like a cast member at Disney World and welcomes Mando like he's a tourist. and she's just pretending that he's a bounty hunter, "Well hey there, traveller. Have ya ever been to Pelli's ole docking bay before?!!"
     
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    I'd not really thought about it like that... I bet i'll remember and wish I'd not got into this thread by the next time I see her though! :D
     
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    How about a 'used car' salesman?

    In The Mandalorian, Peli is the owner of a body shop repair place who gets her spaceship parts from...um, dubious sources. She is surrounded by a rag-tag assortment of less-than-faithful, droid assistants. On paper, this character was written to have all the 'charm' and 'ethics' of a stereotypical (at least in the States) used-car salesman.

    But, thanks to Amy, this sweet-talking shyster has become a 'lovable' rogue. Others here may feel differently, but Amy's portrayal is, to me, the epitomy of what makes a great supporting character in Star Wars. I suspect Jon Favreau feels the same way and that's why we are continuing to see more and more of her.
     
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