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SPOILER The Mandalorian S1E7

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Anubis78, Dec 17, 2019.

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    Well he has to pick up that jetpack that he has in one of the trailers which he uses to jump onto the TIE...aaaaand now that won't be a surprise in the last episode.....whoops.

    More importantly, is Galaxy's Edge gonna have that blue shrimp ale?
     
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    I will be surprised as I expect they left from Nevarro. Let's see. I want to have more from the mandalorians in the show too.
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    It's a must have :D
     
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    I’m wondering if Mando, Cara, and Greef escape from their current pinned-down position into the former Mando covert and pick up one of the left-behind Chekhov’s guns jet packs there.
     
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    Spoiler for The Rise of Skywalker.

    Doesn’t seem like a coincidence that baby Yoda heals someone in the episode immediately before TRoS. Makes me really wonder more what they want baby Yoda for. Maybe to bring back Palpatine?
     
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    I hope the baby choke him instead of healing him :D
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    Upon closer look at the trailer it is visible that Mando is hanging on his tethered rope ( the one from the gauntlet ). At this point I doubt that he has the jet pack. Of course everything is possible and the trailer is not the final cut.
     
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    Oh, bummer. But someday Mando’s got to get one of those. ;)
     
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    There are ~50 storm troopers and 6 death troopers in front of the cantina. This will be an epic fight! I hope it will be well shown.
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    I think so ... because you know - it's so much fun to fly one of those!
     
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    I wonder if we are going to see any parallels between Babyoda and IG-11 as the series goes on. They took careful time to show us the new IG-11 as a child that will follow what/whoever imprints on him. We see Babyoda has this “blank slate” too when he tries to kill Cara, yet also heals Greef...
     
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    To be fair to Yoda, he thought Cara was harming Mando. Who has seen nothing but violence.
     
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    Right, Babyoda just hasn't reached the stage where he can discern how to act yet without moral guidance from Mando. Like IG-11 needed help with his "programming" from Kuiil.
     
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    I have watched this episode a couple of times now. Other things I've noticed:
    -Kuiil seems to think Baby yoda should have gotten bigger already which leads me to believe that we are not being shown some time periods in between episodes.
    -The Client may have been nobility(one the Houses), his polite manners point me in that direction.
     
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    I'm not so sure if the Mandalorian series will ever sync with the sequel trilogy. I don't think it has to and I'm not sure it even wants to...per Favreau's own words...

    I'm putting a lot of effort working with Dave Filoni to figure out what the overarching story is and the storyline for all these characters and what the world is like. We want to make sure that we have a road map, because we're also a puzzle piece that fits into a larger Star Wars universe that has a lot of other movies and a lot of other projects, and we want to make sure we're consistent with them. We have a good 25-year patch of road [in the Star Wars canon] that nobody is exploring right now, and it's the most interesting time for me as a storyteller to explore — the time after the fall of the empire and before the resurgence of the darker forces. --Jon Favreau

    But love, love, love the effort to create a strategic (rather than tactical) plan for the stories they are crafting and how they can all connect to one another.
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    Interesting thought!

    My feeling was that this was mentioned by Kuiil to support the idea that BY is not a strand cast, as the clones in AOTC were accelerated to grow/develop quickly. Given the lack of accelerated growth and the fact the kid seems "evolved", (rather than recreated from stagnant DNA) this suggested to Kuiil that it was not manufactured.

    One thing to note though, if it IS manufactured AND it has growth acceleration, it's possible that BY is physically 50-years of age, but literally MUCH YOUNGER than that. He could have been created during the original trilogy maybe (in secret), accelerated and then lost once the Empire collapsed. A timeline that MIGHT actually make more sense.

    My guess is this is an entirely new creature from Yoda's species, naturally born and probably not even physically related to Yoda or Yaddle at all. This gives the most artistic license to Favreau to define the character as he sees fit.

    Also given Favreau has specifically mentioned that having Yoda's race be a mystery, one largely unexplored and unknown is a STRENGTH, he may never expand upon it.

    I think what's great about what George created is that Yoda proper, the character that we grew up watching, was always shrouded in mystery, and that was what made him so archetypal and so mythic. We know who he is based on his behavior and what he stands for, but we don't know a lot of details about where he comes from or his species. I think that's why people are so curious about this little one of the same species. -Jon Favreau

    Just a thought of course, I could be way wrong, but there is no need for the plot to expand on BY's origin at all, which means, I don't think we'll ever get it. At least not this season, for darn sure.
     
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    Hi Snazel, interesting thoughts. I am really curious for what purpose they need the baby. There is a moff involved and so much resources, it must be really important. Also why Moff Gideon killed the Client? They were both ex imperials, the Client still wearing his imperial pendant. There was never mentioned an imperial base on Nevarro, so where did the moff came from? A star destroyer orbiting the planet? I guess we have to wait until this Friday to get some answers :)
     
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    Speculation: What if BabyY was "born" way back there, in Yoda's early years, but he was snatched up, shoved off somewhere else, put into suspended animation(frozen) to get him out of the way, as a way to have a "sure" backup to some long long range plan. Palpt was good at long range as well as the Trade Federation. I think Yoda had fingers in as many pies as Palpt. What other "bad guy" organizations are around? I don't get around to all the books and printed cannon. It's all well and good to use the Empire to annoy and harass areas on the fringes, but the New Republic can get to them there as fast as any place heavily populated.

    I thought the Empire was dead. What I see are Imperial elements as prosperous and well armed as when Palpt was still alive. Have they shifted gears and now have heavy garrisons spotted around the galaxy and further, spread them around so the New Republic can't find them all?
    Palpt would have known survivors of his Imperial Officers would take over, or try to. Long long long range plans, to cover every eventuality on his part. Palpt is/was power mad. As insane as he was, as much power as he had physically as well as politically, no way is he going to give up. The pie he's controling is gonna be a whopper.
     
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    I think sometimes Star Wars makes things happen in the plot for shock value. In this particular case, they killed off a meme-worthy character and I wager Jon Favreau might be regretting the decision to kill the client. That said, the actor playing the moff is superb, he links Star Wars to "Do the Right Thing" now, a film that had a very large effect on me when it came out in 89, not unlike Star Wars itself!

    The "child" is likely the only remaining truly force sensitive creature the former Empire knows about now, other than Luke (and maybe Leia, although I'm not sure how widely known it is that Leia is force sensitive +5 years after ROTJ).

    So I can see the child's worth, his military and political value, my question is why was the client okay with killing the child? Was the DNA strand that was captured by the former-Kamino technician really all they wanted? And why was it just that technician that managed to stop the child from being killed in Episode 2? That to me makes no sense, if the Empire's only interest was a DNA strand, why go through all this fuss, even after you captured it?

    So a similar question to yours @Krali Marko Viza - and sadly I think many questions will remain after this episode, perhaps even a major, major cliffhanger of sorts to set up season 2.
     
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    Yes Palpatine was full of plans. If you remember the closure of clone wars season 6, Yoda was saying that perhaps there is a path unseen by Sith and so there is a hope. I can't say this in Yoda words :D without looking at the movie. So to say Palpatine long term plans turned to be too short when it come to realization. I don't want even to mention the short lived death stars and the rest of his super projects ( super weapons, does this reminds you of someone from our own history? ).

    I wanted to post a replay about the new republic and former imperial troops across the galaxy - Palpatine was crazy resourceful, most of the galaxy was in his control to seize whatever resources he think he needs. In fact most of the galaxy was working for him. There were garrisons on hundreds of worlds ( maybe even thousands ) and thousands of ships, I read somewhere 25000 star destroyers! It's no wonder that there are a lot of them still remaining active and doing some business. The only difference now is that they are acting more like criminal organization than an army. The new republic is slow, undisciplined, bureaucratic and inefficient as the previous republic, they luck resources, organization and motive to fight for every world still occupied. There will be many planets which are too small, or too insignificant to be liberated. As you can guess those on the outer rim are such planets. Probably Nevarro has nothing valuable to fight for.

    The show of power in episode 7 is to strengthen the importance of baby Yoda. We don't know yet why, but the baby is highly valued by the new Moff.
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    Snazel, good ideas! I think they killed a lot of good characters too fast. We could not see them playing.

    The baby has no military or political meaning at all, it can't be a leader and it can't fight, virtually no one knows for it. What good it can do for the empire?

    We were speculating already in the other threads about the possible reason. To put a few of the discussions here in short:

    1. If it was about the DNA, they could extract DNA from many other jedi or dark users, or sith. There were a lot of jedi killed during the order 66, their graves scattered across the galaxy. It will be much easier to extract material from dead body than chasing this one. On top of that Yoda DNA might not be compatible with human DNA, so no practical value except maybe direct cloning. So I don't think that the only thing they need is DNA from force sensitive.

    2. Yoda species is probably the worst candidate for new Sith lord, they are green, small and talk in strange language :D If they need new Sith to rule them they can find some force sensitive child from the humanoid races. This will not be so difficult - force sensitive children are born all the time.

    3. The yoda race is very long living, we speculated that maybe they need the genes for longevity. But than there are other races also long living. Wookies as example.

    4. DNA from baby Yoda was already extracted by dr. Purshing, so if it was about the DNA there is no need to chase the baby anymore.

    I think they want to have the baby alive. That will be very interesting why. Is it possible that they know about his healing skills? Is it possible that they want to keep someone alive for very long time by force healing? Pure speculations from my side of course.

    So to say - we have no idea whatsoever why the former imperials want the baby :D classical star wars mystery :D
     
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    When thinking of the Empire, I was visualizing the Senate with all the hundreds of worlds represented. It's more like ten thousand times that many Imperial units scattered across all the known Star Wars galaxies to vast galaxies beyond that Palpy has grabbed up in his greedy hands. It would behoove any freedom thinking group of people to present so low a profile as to be none existant. The only thing that has been able to stand up against the Empire was actually the Jedi and it seems they became complacent after their couple of thousand years and brought their own downfall.

    BabyY is the Empire's way to study The Force, to maybe pull out a way to gain Jedi abilities, perhaps learn how to control the Force without being a Jedi. Seeing the way BabyY was snatched up roughly from the ground by the Stormtroopers, they were not concerned about BabyY's well being. If the Empire really wanted him, he'd have been picked up, not snatched on the fly, and packed safely for transport back to the Moff. The Empire is playing "keep-away."
     
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    I find this video interesting describing the situation in the galaxy a bit after the Mandalorian show period. Still I believe it is very adequate description of the chaos and political situation in the outer rim territories after the fall of the empire. So I decided to share it with you guys.

     
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    I'm rewatching ch. 7 and I see that Greef still has the blaster shot hole in his jacket where Mando shot him in ch. 3. No stitches, no patch, no nothing. Poor guy must have been too busy for mending on Nevarro, what with burying all his Guild people the other Mandos killed and then trying to fend off the Imp reinforcements. It's rough out there. :D
     
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    Yes, I also saw it. Maybe he keep it to remind him that he lives a second live, it's not that common in star wars to survive a direct shot from heavy blaster pistol :D those are so powerful they penetrate the storm trooper armor and kill the person inside. Beskar must be very though material.
     
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