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The Mandalorian S2E3 - Chapter 11: The Heiress

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Angelman, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. Mando LXXXV

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    We know Din goes back to Nevarro this season. Perhaps he finds The Armorer and confronts her about what Bo-Katan told him and it sets up The Armorer or The Watch as the main story villains for season 3!? Din could start the new season doing missions on Mandalore and in the end he along with Bo Katan and Sabine can take on The Watch in a two part live action season finale inspired by the Death Watch episodes on Clone Wars
     
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    Yeah, a direct confrontation would be anti climatic. (unless Gideon is trained in the force, which may explain the imperials preference for death ??) I tend to think she will be involved in a more supporting type role which will be cool see.
     
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    We got Ahsoka's name here, but I think anyone expecting her to show up in next week's episode is going to be disappointed, because the episode that she's most likely to be in is the episode in two weeks, which was both written and directed by Dave.
     
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    Why would he be force sensitive? He is an ex ISB officer. Honestly, there is less than 1% chance that they'll make him force sensitive, I heard many people stating so and it makes 0 sense to me.
     
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    End of season 1 was quite intense, so I think it is normal that people didn't pay attention or tend to forget some details, so I just want to point out that the toddler is quite capable in the force, being even not trained. Here listing the abilities:

    Telekinesis - i.e. lifting the mudhorn, manipulating the eggs
    force healing - was trying to heal Mando and did healed Karga, actually saved his life
    flame manipulation, I think this is different than telekinesis - in the chapter 8 it contained the flame from the flame thrower and pushed it back killing the trooper in the process
    was trying to do something on the droid, had no time or it didn't work because Mando came
    maybe is able to mind control simple creatures, remember that frog on the forest planet, the frog was very calm and ready to be eaten :)

    Imagine he can lift a Mudhorn before being able to walk properly. Actually if you remember Yoda he was also walking quite strange and slow until he ignites his lightsaber and than was just flying around.
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    I also think the chances are low. Why would he became an officer instead of ending up being apprentice to either Palpatine or Vader?
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    btw guys do you know how to force the forum gui to not merge my posts? I want to have my posts separated, if I replay to one guy I want one post not several merged.
     
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    Only a possible story idea for why the Imps would choose suicide, not saying that is 100% certain, the story can go in many directions at this point.
     
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    Mondo learns the way he's been taught, is not the ONLY way. Season 2, chapters 1, 2 and 3 are fast moving, whips all characters around, no time for taking a breath before being jerked forward and forever onward; through bones, rocks, sand, and jagged teeth. When, oh when, do we see Mando being able to slow down a bit, interact with The Child and others? To be a parent for a minute or two.
     
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    To be honest, I think this scenario is possible, but really pushed too much. We know that The Watch is in hiding, they deliberately decided to hide in the Outer Rim. I don't see any reason for them to come out of hiding.

    We know Mando very well, he is not striving for power or titles. Why would he change his way and go into politics? I mean taking a lead position in the Mandalorian government, i.e. taking over Mandalore, is politics at the end, not bounty hunting.

    On top of that - fighting for Mandalore is a lost cause, the planet is worth nothing, it is a wasteland. As Mando said there is only death there. Mandalore is cursed after all those wars. And after the empire used it for mining beskar. I doubt there is mu left fro it. Concordia is a bit better, but the empire was mining there too, who knows what is the current condition. If they go back there and continue fighting that would mean they didn't learned anything the past 100 years.
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    Now I am really curious :) how do you know this? Is it just a guess or your know it from somewhere?
     
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    Yes he did learned that there is another way. This seems to shaken him a bit, but he was able to stand up, team up and continue. Must be very strong to continue on his way after all this.
    Probably we will never see him slowing down and being a real parent. life of the bounty hunter is never easy and peaceful, and life in the Outer rim is specifically hard. It attracts a lot of scum and villainy :) remember?
     
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    I know, seriously, Mando's exhaustion seems palpable. I just want him to snuggle in with that kid and take a really long nap in a safe place...
     
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    OOH, also meant to ask: general consensus, is "The Watch" just another name for "Deathwatch"? Or at least somehow related, like a splinter group?


    I feel like maybe both these can be addressed by the same thing: as far as I know, those eggs were unfertilized.

    Not gonna lie, Baby Yoda eating them was pretty messed up, but I don't think it was necessarily "murder".

    Anyway, with my limited understanding of biology, the frog people probably would have fertilized all of the eggs at the same time, but maybe this group is different (and what a weird trip these discussions take us on :p )
     
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    My thoughts are "The Watch" is the same as as "Death Watch". The changes we see came after Siege of Mandalore and their eviction from the planet, and then again after the Purge during the Empire era.

    I thought about this. When he does take off his helmet, it will be an emotional event for him, some serious head-shrinking will be happening within him. It would probably make sense if it happened with a confrontation with the Armorer, an act of defiance. But, I wouldn't put it past Ahsoka knock some sense into him and whoopsie-daisy, the helmet gets knocked off. ;)
     
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    I see what you're saying with Ahsoka, but I still couldn't get behind "accidental" removal of clothing without that person's consent. It crosses too many lines. If it was someone who didn't care about showing their face like most people, it would be entirely different than it would be for Din.

    Like you said, if he takes it off himself as a gesture of defiance or independence, that would be the best way IMO.
     
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    Yeah, the only way I see Ahsoka being around is if Rex and other clones (Wolffe and Gregor) are there, and somehow their individualism despite being clones inspired Djin.

    But agreed that the better story is probably in defiance, likely with the Armorer. Or maybe somehow Gideon.
     
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    We still don't know!

    But of course we can theorize, being Star Wars fans. ;)

    I think the Watch has to be a splinter group, because Deathwatch split between Maul's commandos (and if Din was part of this, he'd know about Force users, right?) and Bo-Katan's group. And clearly Din wasn't part of her group. But...is the Children of the Watch that Bo-Katan mentioned separate even from the Watch? Where does the Fighting Corps that Din says he joined fit in with all this?

    So what can we make of the dudes who appeared to rescue Baby!Din with the Death Watch sigil? Were they a precursor of the Death Watch? Were they a third group that splintered off Death Watch? Were they actual Death Watch that passed Lil Baby!Din on to the Watch/Children of the Watch?

    The issue for me is the timing of all this. Din says he hasn't taken off his helmet since he swore the Creed when he came of age. He seems to have been a little nipper (8ish?) during the Clone Wars when his parents died in that attack, when he swore the Creed would have been around 14-9 BBY. And every Mandalorian sect we know of, including Death Watch and their offshoots, were still taking off their helmets at the time.

    So...yeah. We don't know. :p
     
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    My only real nitpick(s) are "MUH WATCH" in place of DEATHWATCH.... Maul was running DEATHWATCH first, before ruling Mandalore.
    And the Armorer's nonsensical season one comment about eons past and sorcerers.



    I expect top of the line continuity AND storytelling from Filoni and Fav's.

    I'll wait to see how this plays out before I start readying the napalm payload.

    And, damn this episode was nice.
    Best of this season. 9/10.
     
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    The fact that Filoni & Fav are behind this gives me a lot of hope that we will get a explication for this.
    Personally I’m sure that they are strong links between Death Watch & this Children of the Watch group it could be simply that Din hasn’t advanced far enough up the chain of command to be told all the groups history the same goes for the Armourer she may be high up in that cell but I’m sure she has some one above her that she takes orders from.
    T use a Warhammer 49K analogue they could be very similar to the Dark Angels where the groups very Secret history is only slowly revealed as you move up the chain of command & only most senior officers in the inner circle know the entire history of the chapter.
     
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    I keep saying this: I feel Mando is like any sleep-deprived parent of a baby, that you feel like giving them a hug, a huge glass of wine and let them take a nap.

    I think it's going to take a little while for him to take his helmet off, but I'm thinking he would do it either in front of The Child, or even in front of Bo-Katan if they meet again.
     
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    Yes, it will definitely take a while for Din to get to the point where he'd take his helmet off. I think he's got a ways to go before he trusts Bo that much after she changed the terms of their deal.

    And I've got a bad feeling about what's going to happen when he goes to find Ahsoka... If things go sideways, I hope it's not Bo's fault and he doesn't blame her unjustly.
     
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