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The Mandalorian S2E6 - Chapter 14: The Tragedy

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Krali Marko Vizla, Dec 4, 2020.

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    TIL that Temuera Morrison is a Master Maori taiaha spear wielder, which explains why his action scenes with the Gaderffii stick look so effortless.
     
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    I don't know :) He is a baby, he just play with things. The Jedi temple relic you mention is probably the stone he used? Well it might be that the portal was activated by him or it was just activated. Those items are sometimes activating by themselves when there is force user who can use them.
    I will be very careful to interpret the episode on that part related to Grogu. It was not clear to me what happened there on the stone.
    I wrote already I don't expect new characters to appear, there are just 2 episodes left. We understood Din has a plan to get to Mayfeld, so perhaps one episode will be dedicated to this. Then he has to attempt a rescue. Good thing is that we have a lot of characters already in the show.
     
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    Anakin took a long time to go over to the dark side. I don't think we really know yet what happened with the Jedi temple event. It came across like Grogu got a mini lesson. I speculate Grogu gets saved before they drain all the blood out of him but he does not get full training. Grogu is gold for this series but he will have to be back with Din and not off getting trained.
     
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    This was my thought too - Ashoka immediately set about trials/ tasks, it may well be a test in itself.

    If not, I wouldn’t want Luke, I’d want someone else to expand the characters/ universe.

    Still waiting to see my boy Quinlan Vos, maybe it’s his ‘old man version’ time?
     
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    So why are you so negative on TROS's force ghosts? Did you have an issue when force ghosts were used in many previous SW movies?
     
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    That's true, but we see Grogu touching the stone before it activates and him sitting there in a meditation pose. If he went into some sort of coma I would agree that we don't know if the stone was influencing him putting him in this force field or if he put up that force field. Him assuming a new position shows him to be active and at least partly in control imho.

    Grogu is 50 years old. He was trained as a youngling for years and just recently chose the light side once more using the Jedi temple, talking to Ahsoka etc. Why would he switch sides within the blink of an eye just now? There is no reason whatsoever for him to do so, or am I missing something? So will he can go to the dark side I don't see why someone who was on the light side for 50 years would not choose that side (again) if you now ask him to rather spontaneously.

    He will get saved eventually, but why are so many people assuming they would drain out all his blood? As I said before here doing so would be a pretty dumb idea as it will cut off their way of getting blood with that high of an M-count completely. It is the much more logical way to extract small blood samples from Grogu from time to time (like they already did before) and have him regenerate and re-producing bloodcells instead of taking all his blood at once thereby killing him. Basically make him a blood donor rather than a can of blood you empty at once.

    While I do agree that Grogu is gold for this series I also feel like he at some point has to leave Din and the series for it to grow further and expand on Din Djarins story. And my guess is they would rather give Grogu a proper send off in having a Jedi come a train him (which leaves the possibility of him coming back) than killing him off sometime kater. Because that seem to be the only two options for Grogu leaving. Din Djarin completing his mission or Grogu dying.
     
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    Don't be hating force ghosts!..well in TROS , voices
     
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    I don't think one knows who will switch before they are severely tested. Ahsoka talked about fear as did Yoda.
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    Well it does not appear that he becomes a significant figure in the resistance. Perhaps he is killed eventually. Perhaps his force abilities are never fully developed.
     
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    Perhaps Grogu ends up preferring the mandalorian ways than jedi and Din embraces having an alien force sensitive foundling son and during the ST, Grogu is taking care of Old Man Din on Nevarro
     
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    So, if I understood correctly: Jango Fett was NOT supposed to be a true Mandalorian like stated in Clone Wars and from George Lucas and Dave Filoni's interviews in 2010. But then thanks to this episode and the comic Star Wars Jango Fett, which from Legends became Canon, he turned out to be a true Mandalorian. Boba is not Mandalorian because he is a clone but he is Jango's son and therefore can be considered like a true Mandalorian because he receive the armor from his father. Correct? Or I missed something?
     
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    In 1:21 he comments something i noticed too: the blue part of the little sphere. Didn't see it before either.
    I missed something?
    Why it has blue when never had it?
    Yes, it's a little detail and probably means nothing but it bothers me a little bit.
     
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    No, with previous movies not an issue. It was considered something very special. After all Yoda made a journey to discover the secret and to develop the skill. In TRoS it felt cheap when at the end all become force ghost. It felt not right. We didn't saw any of them taking a training on it yet they all got descended. I guess it was done to create a connection with previous movies and kind of "if it goes well once, do more of it and it will be even better". Felt like a cheap imitation. IMHO Disney does not understand Star Wars and they just jump from one thing to the next trying to guess what will be appreciated by audience. My feeling about the movie is strange. It's like Star Wars but not really. I don't know how to explain it.
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    I have a 3D model of the ball, it's been released after Season 1, long time ago. There was always a circle on top. I didn't notice before that it is blue, but yes the circle was there and the modeller noticed it and put it there, I was wandering should I paint it :) and then decided just to leave it as it is.
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    Not hating, just thing the idea is already made klishe.
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    What makes the mandalorian, we know that it is not blood because they adapt children from different planets and train them as mandalorians, it was also written that they accept also aliens. With the helmet on they all look the same, they are all mandalorians. Mandalorians are made by culture not by race, color, blood, heritage.
    I am not sure that the armor belongs to Boba because his father was mandalorian. That's not a strong reason, and remember blood doesn't make him mandalorian. I think the armor was given to him because Din thinks he share the same culture, values, training. It;s not about stealing that Mando is fighting, it's about keeping the heritage of the mandalorian culture. As his father before him Boba is trained as mandalorian, he bring the mandalorian culture and therefore can have the armor to use it.
    I would not consider Jango and Boba less mandalorian then Bo Katan. They have different goals and different ways, but they come from the same root. There are different types of mandalorians. It will be interesting to see Bo Katan working together with Boba, I think it will be hard in the beginning. Something like Han and Leia :) but Boba is wiser than Han.
     
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    This came when I searched for the lever knob, i.e. baby yoda ball - link. And it's on sale here.
    ( I am not involved in this in any way, just thought it's an interesting item and we spoke about the ball already here )

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    I hear you but no episode can be all things. Earlier in the season people complained that the episodes were all filler and didn’t move the story along. Heck, even the Bo Katan episode didn’t really move the story along.

    In this one, we know Grogu reached out to the force, presumably making contact with another Jedi suggesting he will be trained more, Grogu is taken back by Gideon and Mando added to his crew for the mission to get Grogu back. We got all that plus some of the best action of the series and giving Boba Fett back his reputation as a total bad ass (which was kind of deprived since he down kind of embarrassingly in ROTJ).

    That’s a solid amount of things for a 30 min episode to accomplish.
     
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    The dark troopers look very similar to imperial sentry droids. And are more or less related to that period. Did they reused the design from Rebels for The Mandalorian show?

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    Yep (maybe at Mimban, not sure I remember that or not).

    But I'm a sucker for some artillery, so it was a joy seeing the mortar in this episode. The E-WEB in action again was great, too. Fennec Shand was incredible in this one!
     
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    “Left 10.....down 10.....FIRE FOR EFFECT!!!”
     
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    @Lock_S_Foils , @cawatrooper , in the clone wars they used the mortar.

    Here is a screenshot for you, and thanks for the tip for the title!

    Season 4 episode 10

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    Thanks @Krali Marko Vizla !! I have not watched the Clone Wars (yet).... I know , I know, I need to GET AFTER IT!! (As Cobb Vanth would say)
     
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    Right, all those things are good! But I felt like it was missing the meat somehow and all I was getting was some nice tasty bread--which is disappointing when you're expecting a whole sandwich. :p I still can't really explain why I felt that way exactly. It's fine, we just move on and accept that some episodes hit the spot and others don't. ;)
     
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