1. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

The Mandalorian S2E6 - Chapter 14: The Tragedy

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Krali Marko Vizla, Dec 4, 2020.

  1. Lock_S_Foils

    Lock_S_Foils Red Leader

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Posts:
    2,988
    Likes Received:
    68,307
    Trophy Points:
    175,157
    Credits:
    49,243
    Ratings:
    +72,684 / 45 / -41
    I like this theory....so basically keeping Yoda’s “there is another” line referring to Leia intact as Ahsoka did not consider herself a “Jedi” at that time? And now she has made some sort of “epiphany” and has changed her mind, maybe for the sake of Grogu?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Krali Marko Vizla

    Krali Marko Vizla Rebel General

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    451
    Likes Received:
    1,133
    Trophy Points:
    4,992
    Credits:
    4,391
    Ratings:
    +1,755 / 4 / -0
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  3. Mando LXXXV

    Mando LXXXV Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2020
    Posts:
    772
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Trophy Points:
    5,792
    Credits:
    1,690
    Ratings:
    +2,139 / 5 / -2
    Has Boba Fett moved higher on people's list as a favorite character now? He's still in my top 10 or or so but I sure like him even more now!
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Great Post Great Post x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
  4. Krali Marko Vizla

    Krali Marko Vizla Rebel General

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    451
    Likes Received:
    1,133
    Trophy Points:
    4,992
    Credits:
    4,391
    Ratings:
    +1,755 / 4 / -0
    I think in the next 2 episodes we will see a lot of action. I don't expect to see new characters as there is no much time left. The main problem now is to save baby yoda, so they will focus on that. There were a lot of new characters introduced this season, now we should see them team up and do the job. As a side thing we may see Din obtaining a new ship, he needs to stay on a run and to continue searching for baby yoda species, so having a ship is a must.
    I don't expect to see this mysterious jedi in this season, if ever, because we don't know the decision of Grogu about his future. As we saw him throwing those troopers I expect he got a "short course jedi training" during the contact and maybe he will continue on his own, after all "he was trained by many jedi masters" :p why does he need a new trainer?
    I don't expect the Moff is completely defeated, it must be a good fight though, but the Moff will probably survive again because it's needed to have a strong villain in the show. The Dark troopers will probably be all destroyed. And we know how much Din hates droids, he will be satisfied :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. Choose Light

    Choose Light Mando Maven and Brown Eyes Backer

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2016
    Posts:
    1,880
    Likes Received:
    35,122
    Trophy Points:
    157,667
    Credits:
    24,545
    Ratings:
    +37,757 / 11 / -2
    I never really cared about Boba Fett one way or the other besides just thinking he was overrated. Keep in mind I never read any of the Legends stuff but only saw what the movies gave us. I thought Boba was extremely annoying in the Clone Wars, but he was just a kid and of course he’d be different as an adult.

    I did not expect him to have “grown” so much, or at least he wasn’t the angry jerk I was expecting him to be if he came back. Yes, obviously there was some rage there in his gaffe stick fight (!!), but he was reasonable and I really dug his code of honor (however it turns out to be structured).

    So while he’s not in my top ten or anything, I like Boba now and if he wants to make me like him more, I’m open to the idea. ;)
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  6. Rogues1138

    Rogues1138 Crazy Old Wizard

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2015
    Posts:
    3,110
    Likes Received:
    31,372
    Trophy Points:
    154,467
    Credits:
    17,666
    Ratings:
    +33,476 / 77 / -39
    Omg, I'm still putting together my art studio section for modeling. I just bought an airbrush booth and mask to paint my Star Wars Bandai model kits and dioramas. I'm also trying to learn digital art since I'm more of a traditional artist, so now everyone is getting 3d printers!!! I know some modelers are getting 3d printers to make their own modeling kits and sculptures. I'll catch up someday but by that time a new tool will emerge. Sounds really cool though!
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 6, 2020, Original Post Date: Dec 6, 2020 ---
    I started watching Lonewolf and Cub again because the Mandalorian is partially inspired by the aforementioned show. I don't believe Grogu and Din will ever part at least not for a few seasons. In Lonewolf and Cub, the father is a master samurai and his son has seen so much death and bloodshed as he travels with his father, something Din has stated at the beginning of season 2 episode 1.

    In the later seasons of Lonewolf and Cub, which I haven't watched yet, the son grows up significantly, so I believe we'll see Grogu grow up to Yoda's height before they part ways (we're getting at least 4 seasons, and some concept art images in the art of the Mandalorian show a bigger/older Grogu).

    Just as Ahsoka did not want to train Grogu for his attachment to his father I believe other Jedi will do the same, if not we might have an Anakin situation on our hands going forward.

    Luke wore Black when he force choked those Gamorrean Guards in Jabba's Palace. Luke was treading the Darkside just like Kylo but Luke chose the light. We also see Grogu force choking Stormtroopers so whoever decides to train Grogu will have to be very careful.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 6, 2020 ---
    I just want to know if the Moff is defeated will we see Grand Admiral Thrawn teased for next season, or will Thrawn be reserved for the much-rumored Ahsoka show?
     
    #166 Rogues1138, Dec 6, 2020
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2020
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  7. Mando LXXXV

    Mando LXXXV Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2020
    Posts:
    772
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Trophy Points:
    5,792
    Credits:
    1,690
    Ratings:
    +2,139 / 5 / -2
    I really hope Cobb Vanth returns to join Din's team but not sure why he would. I mean they're even and why would he leave his town that he cares for so much to take on the empire and help rescue Grogu, who he didn't really interacted much with.

    Boba Fett and Fennec promised to be in Din's debt to help Grogu after getting the armor back, Cara Dune pulled some strings with prison records and may join Din because they're friends and she's now New Republic anyway, Mayfield will have the option to either help Din on a crazy mission and possibly be freed or get time shaved off afterwards or stay in prison to rott, Bo-Katan may return and she's already after Gideon for the dark sabre.

    Cobb would basically just be there to interact with Boba and maybe get some answers on why Boba didn't go after Vanth.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  8. Madmartigan

    Madmartigan Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Posts:
    535
    Likes Received:
    1,449
    Trophy Points:
    7,792
    Credits:
    2,790
    Ratings:
    +2,050 / 14 / -4
    I am interested in the Jedi call.
    If it's Luke answering, it will be curious. I remember one of the last Hamill's interviews (i think 4-6 weeks ago, I can't find the videochat sorry). In there he said his Star Wars days are over.

    Maybe they have not asked him yet for, basically, appear in season 3 or 4 and he doesn't know.
    Or basically he is not who will answer the call.
    But if finally Luke appears, it will be a big surprise and a very well kept secret (at this point it's a fanbase theory, like other Jedi), unless they use a double or the every day more effective deepfake.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  9. delph

    delph Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2020
    Posts:
    160
    Likes Received:
    242
    Trophy Points:
    667
    Credits:
    464
    Ratings:
    +295 / 4 / -0
    Is Boba Fett a true Mandalorian or not? I did not fully understand this. And of course also his father Jango.

    But I thought Luke closed himself to the Force. Am I right? Sorry but I may have forgotten something about The Last Jedi.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  10. Mosley909

    Mosley909 Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Posts:
    683
    Likes Received:
    1,122
    Trophy Points:
    7,367
    Credits:
    2,398
    Ratings:
    +1,601 / 36 / -2
    Boba is a clone of his 'dad' Jango, Jango was a foundling like Din Djarin so had the right to armour. Boba has never committed himself to the way of the mandalorian but has a right to the armor as it was his 'father" or adopted father what ever you want to call him.

    The Mandalorian takes place way before Luke closed himself off from the force, at this point Ben would only be 5 or 6, so its along time before that flash back we see in the Last Jedi were Luke pulls his lightsaber on Ben, at least 24 years, as we know from the book 'Bloodlines' Luke and Ben where still together Jedi training 6 years before force awakens.

    We don't really know where Luke is at this time or what he is doing, but there is nothing in cannon that says he wasn't an active Jedi
     
    #170 Mosley909, Dec 6, 2020
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2020
    • Like Like x 5
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  11. Lock_S_Foils

    Lock_S_Foils Red Leader

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Posts:
    2,988
    Likes Received:
    68,307
    Trophy Points:
    175,157
    Credits:
    49,243
    Ratings:
    +72,684 / 45 / -41
    Start at the 10:01 point of this video, gives a good explanation of Jango's lineage

     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
  12. Jedi MD

    Jedi MD Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2014
    Posts:
    3,569
    Likes Received:
    7,844
    Trophy Points:
    88,637
    Credits:
    19,567
    Ratings:
    +11,134 / 60 / -6
    So far I have been very pleased with Season 2. There has definitely not been a let down From Season 1 which could have happened. Overall I thought this episode was good and confused to move the story to wards the finale in 2 weeks

    As far as the jet pack, Boba telling Mando to put it down is just a plot device so that Mando would not have it on when the Dark troopers appear.

    Mando not having it at the end does not mean he left it. They just did not need to show him picking it back up. This is similar to Luke and his light saber at the end of Return of the Jedi. Also he would not need to be wearing it at the end if he was just going to talk with Cara
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Cool Cool x 1
  13. Mando LXXXV

    Mando LXXXV Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2020
    Posts:
    772
    Likes Received:
    1,490
    Trophy Points:
    5,792
    Credits:
    1,690
    Ratings:
    +2,139 / 5 / -2
    If Din dies at the end of the series, Grogu already has the right to his armor!?

    I guess he needs to learn how to talk by the end so can be like "mine, it is!" as he tries to pick up the helmet
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  14. DarthSnow

    DarthSnow Master of Coin
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2016
    Posts:
    2,904
    Likes Received:
    45,671
    Trophy Points:
    169,977
    Credits:
    14,365
    Ratings:
    +52,051 / 9 / -3
    Does it have to be a living Jedi who answers Grogu's call??

    We know he was being trained at the Jedi Temple before being hid. Was he a padawan already, or was he still in youngling group Jedi school? Maybe a force-ghost of the Jedi who hid him will be the one to answer the call.

    I don't know what would be more impactful -- probably the person you least expect, which alludes to someone we've already met.
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Wise Wise x 1
  15. Krali Marko Vizla

    Krali Marko Vizla Rebel General

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    451
    Likes Received:
    1,133
    Trophy Points:
    4,992
    Credits:
    4,391
    Ratings:
    +1,755 / 4 / -0
    Vanth because he live in the middle of the desert, in a town with total population below 50 :) It must be boring like hell there :) of course he will join, he will die before missing such party. Also Din is even with any of them yet they come to help.
    Cara is as much in the new republic as much is Karga, they have to live with it, but I don't think they really care.

    While I was taking a shower today :) an idea emerged - what about those bored X-Wing pilots, they are patrooling in the outer rim and they must protect the new republic citizens, as far as I can say, Grogu is a citizen of the new republic :) soooo are we going to see X-Wings in action? please!

    He need to eat a lot of frogs until growing for this armor :) No no :) I can imagine the mandalorian helmet for Grogu, with big big ... :D
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 6, 2020, Original Post Date: Dec 6, 2020 ---
    It's not so new, it's being around for some years already. There are plenty of models available. And it's really popular. Since Season 2 rolled out there is a new wave of SW models being released. I was showing some in the other thread, I hope I will find time tomorrow to post a few more. 3D Printing is really nice art for modellers, prop makers, artists, engineers - it can supplement a lot of other disciplines by providing fast and affordable way to prototyping. I am still learning to paint, have airbrush, compressor already, but decided to play with acrylic paints for now, I am not really willing to breath the vapors of enamel paints. It's really cold here and ventilating the workshop will be costly.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  16. Krali Marko Vizla

    Krali Marko Vizla Rebel General

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    451
    Likes Received:
    1,133
    Trophy Points:
    4,992
    Credits:
    4,391
    Ratings:
    +1,755 / 4 / -0
    Ahm ... after TRoS I am done with ghosts. I will be really disappointed if they go this way. I think this was the most stupid moment in TRoS, it wasn't original at all, I felt like cheaply tricked. If there is a Jedi coming he must be live :) , ghosts go back to the force!
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 6, 2020, Original Post Date: Dec 6, 2020 ---
    too bad. I was hoping it still there :) and I can take it, there will be a race though, lot's of guys are heading this way now hoping for the same
     
    • Like Like x 2
  17. Klabauter

    Klabauter Clone Trooper

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2020
    Posts:
    26
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    87
    Credits:
    148
    Ratings:
    +100 / 0 / -0
    Because his old trainer(s) died before he completed his training? Seems pretty obvious. Also I think him having been trained by many masters implies he was still a youngling with only basic training, too, which further proofs the incompleteness of his training.

    Boba Fett is STILL not a Mandalorian. However he is the "son" of a Mandalorian now as they now for the first time ever made Jango Fett a true Mandalorian. Although not a Mandalorian like Bo-Katan and her companions, but one like our titular Mandalorian Din Djarin who became Mandalorian by taing the creed of a splinter group of Mandalorians who follow the old ways of the Mandalore.

    Basically: Jango => True Mandalorian, Boba => Not Mandalorian. Din Djarin lets the Non-Mandalorian Boba Fett keep the Mandalorian armour, because he didn't steal the armour from a Mandalorian but inherited it from a Mandalorian (his father Jango).
     
    • Like Like x 2
  18. Krali Marko Vizla

    Krali Marko Vizla Rebel General

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    451
    Likes Received:
    1,133
    Trophy Points:
    4,992
    Credits:
    4,391
    Ratings:
    +1,755 / 4 / -0
    That assumes he will choose the path of a Jedi. He may choose other path. That's what I mean, if he choose different path, he may not need a trainer or master in this sense.

    By creed, i.e. culture, training, values, etc. he may be considered mandalorian, this is why Din agreed to give the armor back. It belongs to his family, therefore it belongs to Boba.
    Mandalorians are no longer a society, Mandalore is broken. It is hard to say who is true mandalorian and who is not. Din as example is foundling, but he works as a bounty hunter, alone. Is he considered a true mandalorian? I don't know. I think the boundaries are blurred in this period.
     
  19. Klabauter

    Klabauter Clone Trooper

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2020
    Posts:
    26
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    87
    Credits:
    148
    Ratings:
    +100 / 0 / -0
    No. Boba never took the creed. He very clearly is not considered Mandalorian and doesn't consider himself a Mandalorian, too. He probably could join if he wanted to as it is like you said: Mandalorians are no longer simply "Persons born on Mandalore" but it goes beyond that and is more like a "religion" in a way.

    Well, it didn't seem he doesn't want to be a Jedi, did it? After all he uses the force, he was fine with communicating with anouther light side force user in Ahsoka and he utilized a Jedi temple relic. It very much seems like he at least chose the light side. But of course they could change that up. I don't think they will, but it would be possible.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. oldfan

    oldfan Clone

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2020
    Posts:
    14
    Likes Received:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    12
    Credits:
    139
    Ratings:
    +41 / 0 / -0
    Thank you for putting that in perspective. I really don't expect to see Luke. Just guessing but I kind of expect if a Jedi should appear at all it will be one we never heard about. On the other hand I never expected to see Boba F here or CGI Leia in Rogue One. For a longgg time I thought ROTJ was the end of on screen Star Wars. We will have to wait and see. I'd be pleased to even hear Mark's voice as Luke but have doubts that they would want to fork out the kind of money he might get for it. Given how stealthy Jedi can be Luke could be in and out unseen and unheard. Stuff done by an unseen hand. Perhaps we see the Jedi hand and the Jedi cloak.
     
    • Like Like x 3
Loading...

Share This Page