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RUMOR The Max von Sydow is Boba Fett Theory

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Snazel, Jul 5, 2015.

  1. Snazel

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    Is anyone buying the fan theory that Max is an aging Boba Fett? He could have been able to retrieve's Luke's blue light saber after all, he was there.

    Also Wikipedia's entry on the word vicar says:

    A vicar (/ˈvɪkər/; Latin: vicarius) is a representative, deputy or substitute; anyone acting "in the person of" or agent for a superior (compare "vicarious" in the sense of "at second hand"). Linguistically, vicar is cognate with the English prefix "vice," similarly meaning "deputy."

    Is Boba Fett not a deputy for most of the OT? Either for the Hutt or for Vader.

    Also Fett seems to grumble about the reward, perhaps Vader gives him the saber as part of his compensation, he doesn't need it and he's probably keen to see if Luke can construct his own.

    Wild speculation, but fun, a lot more fun than the initial theories that he was Chancellor Valorum.

    I'm still holding out for Lobot, and the silence of Lobot and his deputy status seems to suggest "vicar" a little. But Lobot seems a waste because Sydow has such a great voice.
     
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    I don't want to bring race into this, but canonically Boba Fett is Maori (like his dad), so suddenly showing him as a white Swedish guy would make people go "huhh?"

    Lobot is a more probable option, especially considering that MVS bears a resemblance to the former. Whoever he is though, his role will be a minor one.
    I'm betting he'll be Kylo's lightsaber-fodder at the start of the film.

    EDIT: People are saying that MVS shouldn't be killed off quickly because he "has an awesome voice" and I suppose I'd agree. But he's still going to be a minor character. He'll maybe have a monologue to one of the good guys (maybe Poe) and then confront Kylo Ren heroically, but will soon be cut down.
     
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    I thought it had been confirmed that MvS is Lobot? No?
     
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    I'm really pulling for him to be Boba Fett; you don't cast someone like Max von Sydow and give him a throw-away part like MSW suggests. Plus, there's the rumors suggesting Disney is planning on "rebooting" Boba's backstory, so Max playing him in TFA would really throw fuel on that mystery-fire.

    Also, Harry Knowles from Ain't It Cool News suggested that he saw footage of Mvs's character and was so awe-inspired by it that he seemed to think it would be the single coolest moment of the film; that says Boba Fett to me :).
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    That's exactly why him playing Boba Fett would be so epic; a lot of people (myself included) were extremely underwhelmed at Boba's "backstory" in the prequels, and from the sounds of it Disney means to reboot that story in the second Anthology flick. Seeing him now would be like free marketing for a flick over 2 years away.

    Also, I reiterate: Max von Sydow is a cinematic legend, ala Alec Guinness in ANH. He won't just just be lightsaber-bait.
     
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    I do believe that there's been some suggestion that the foreshadow in Episode II after Jango Fett's murder is *not* the Boba Fett of the OT. I think one of the anthology films might rewrite some of Fett's canon. I'll try to find that article and post it here.
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    No, although it happens to me my favorite theory, Cholobot's too. But Lobot doesn't talk, hiring Max von Sydow to play a character that doesn't talk seems like hiring a gorilla to manufacture lace doilies. His voice is epic and his talent grand.
     

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    Lobot hasn't learned to talk in 30 years? See, I think MvS would be PERFECT. Imagine hearing Lobot's voice for the first time, and it's MvS's. Powerful blast.
     
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    He is actually just a really tiny gundam operated by 40 hamsters.
     
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    Never bought into the MvS/Fett theory....I just don't feel it. ALTHOUGH, I have heard that he's playing a character that had a minor but pivotal role in the past that we've seen before.
     
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    But, Boba Fett is dead..ok, ok, sorry--let's not start another drinking game, lol!

    The only problem I have with MvS being Boba Fett is that the last time we saw Boba Fett he was dead. He 'could' come back (I for one would welcome that), but his surviving the Sarlacc and where he's been all these years would definitely have to be explained. Like, more explaination than if MvS was not Boba Fett because Fett is a fan favourite and, for everyone else, Fett is dead.

    So for me, the same arguments against this theory apply that have been put forward as arguments against Plagueis making an appearance: 1. he is dead, and 2. if it's him, where has he been all this time.

    I appreciate there may be a Fett Anthology film on it's way, but that will be later down the line. Will Fett be an important enough character in TFA to warrant his own prequel? And if Fett dies in TFA (which MvS's character probably will do), will movie goers want a Fett prequel if they know he's already dead? Especially if, as rumour suggests, MvS's Fett isn't the original Fett anyway?

    No, I don't buy it. It's just too messy imho. But we'll see....
     
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    What? The Sarlacc doesnt kill people though, it keeps them alive while slowly digesting them over the course of 1000 years.

    Why does it need to be explained how he survived, it had no intention of immediatly killing him.
     
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    The idea that a creature could preserve a body long enough for it to provide nourishment over a long period of time and keeping them alive for that time are not the same. If leaping into a Sarlacc meant you would be "kept alive" for 1000 years, perhaps that's where Plagueis has been hiding all this time? What you're really presenting here is a secondary argument about what that line from RotJ means, not an argument for MvS playing Fett in TFA. You can be dead and be digested slowly, is what I'm saying.

    Secondary argument against Fett in TFA--OT cast so far: Luke, Leia, Han, Chewbacca, C3PO, R2D2, Admiral Akbar, Nien Numb, Storm Troopers, a rumoured Tarkin clone..do we need more, how many batons are being passed?....
     
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    Why should Boba Fett retrieve Lukes lightsaber? (with the OT in mind, it does not make sense to me)
    I will try to explain it.
    Why should he come back with the carbon freezed Han Solo in Slave 1 on his way to Jabba and search for it, he even didn't know that Luke lost his saber.
    It would not matter to him either, because It's just a weapon, sure a special one, but outdated.
    I agree a wild speculation is fun, my wild guess is, he plays Obi Wans Ghost. (a Yoda/Obi Wan Ghost scene with old Luke would be nice)
    Valorum would be over 100 years old in TFA, if Sydow would play Valorum.
    I suppose that not a single PT character will be present in TFA and Max von Sydow will play a new character.
    It's only a problem with the PT in mind. (I don't see a problem to retcon it)
    In the OT Boba Fett was played by Jeremy Bulloch.
    I think a old Boba Fett could work, just look at the picture folks. (still lookig handsome)
    JeremyBullochBobaFett.png
     
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    Actually, the dialogue from Jabba (as translated by 3PO) intimated that the Sarlaac's victims would be alive enough to feel torture for those 1000 years; it's one of the reasons he loved using the PIt of Carkoon so much.

    Also, Boba Fett escaped the Sarlaac twice in the old EU, and it's been heavily suggested that he survives in the new canon. Where has he been for the last 30 years? Well, where has anyone been? We'll find out in the books, comics, and possible tv shows/Anthology films that will eventually cover that time period.
     
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    Several behind the scenes people have said Boba got out, but while word of god is valuable... ultimately what is published has the final say.
     
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    We have to remember that at the end of the day, Disney bought this franchise because it is iconic; they have to know that Boba Fett has a great number of fans, they're not going to sacrifice the chance to gouge those fans' wallets just to tell a "more realistic" space fantasy story. Whether it's in TFA or not, Boba will be back.
     
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    George himself said that Boba survived, I believe. So even though he's no longer there, that's essentially the word.

    I, for one, would rather dear old Boba didn't follow us into the new movies.
     
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    A old Boba Fett could be bad ass.
    JeremyBullochBobaFett.png
     

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    I doubt that MvS will play Boba Fett, but it would be interesting. Personally, I would prefer Jeremy Bulloch to play the aging bounty hunter. Also, retconing the Fett story would, IMHO, be a stroke of genious, and I REALLY hope they do that. Not because I'm a fanboy who will throw fits if my favorite character isn't ruling the film, but because the end of Fett was a dropped ball in RotJ (just like Maul's end was in TPM).

    As for MvS, I have no idea what he will be playing, but it bether be a character with, well, a lot of character :)
     
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    "hi Max, can you play boba fett? you'll have to do a kiwi accent and change skin colour though please"
     
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    NO MORE FETT please
    he was a cool character (albeit a horrible ending, george adding humor again)
    please dont retcon him please dont waste a great actor like MVS on him
    have MVS be another bad ass bounty hunter he havnt seen that even has mandalor armor
    LOVE that whatever has been seen could be the greatest moment he is fantastic

    IF you want me dream roll.....Lets have him be SOLO sr

    and have a Han dad moment :)
     
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