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RUMOR The Max von Sydow is Boba Fett Theory

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Snazel, Jul 5, 2015.

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    Here is some more Fett :p

     
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    Oh, the over acting! Everybody's doing at least two roles worth of work in this one; I wonder if they got double pay? :p
     
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    We re about to see what 30 years has done to this great bounty hunter.
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    No, just... no. (Been there, done that with IJ and the Last Crusade.)
     
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    come on it is better than Fett Fetish
     
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    I always thought the best part about BF was that he was mysterious. The way he was written in the OT was done in a way that you had to imagine all the backstory that made him a badass. I'd prefer to leave it that way with ST ;)
     
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    He's Dengar. You heard it here first.
     
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    He don't have to change anything, because Jeremy Bulloch is a white guy and the real Boba Fett and not this wannabe Bounty Hunter called Jango Fett from EP. II.
    I don't see a problem here, sorry. :D
     
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    Exactly. I sound like a broken record, but if Disney is rebooting Boba Fett's backstory as rumored (and I surely hope they do), then there's no need to adhere to his "ethnicity" from the PT. (quotes used because in-universe, there is no such thing as race)

    Furthermore, re-introducing him in the ST would make audiences go "Wait, what??" and fuel interest in a Boba-centric Anthology film to explain the switcheroo.
     
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    They're not rebooting his story, just adding a new chapter

    Hes jangos clone and always will be. Sorry
     
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    Id much rather they continue to develop Boba's backstory as teen to early adult (basically where they left off in TCW.)

    The only problem with that you would HAVE to cast Temura Morrusib again and by the time they attempt a Fett movie, it will be at least 15 years since he appeared as Fett. That means the film would need to take place after ROTJ. Which I wouldn't be opposed to.
     
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    Lobot?
     
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    Nope, definitely not feeling that one either! :)
     
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    If that were the case, it would make AOTC a complete letdown for fans of Fett (as AOTC was used to give the OT character a backstory). Furthermore, they wouldn't have gone to the trouble of having Temuera Morrison rerecord Boba's lines in ESB, if Boba wasn't a clone. And we can't forget that TCW shows Boba starting to follow in his father's footsteps as a bounty hunter... There is nothing to suggest that Boba in the OT is a different character than the Boba of the PT. That would make the OT Fett little more than a poser. Much less cool.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 8, 2015, Original Post Date: Jul 8, 2015 ---
    Do you forget that the PT is just as much canon as the OT is? Why would you not have the PT in mind? Furthermore, in the OT it is irrelevant that Bulloch was in the suit, as we never see his face. However, Temuera Morrison's voice confirms that he is in fact a clone of Jango Fett (which as I've said, ties the PT and OT together). This is something they went to great lengths to make cohesive between the trilogies; to retcon it would be unlikely and a mistake.
     
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    A plausible character for a actor of MVS's stature could be a Imperial admiral or maybe a fleet general who gets shot down in the huge Battle of Jakku & knowing the Empire is going down decides to go AWOL as a barfly-junk dealer.
    He might have a mentor-protector type relationship to Rey then be killed off by Ren or Phasma when they come searching for Poe & Finn(with BB8).
    MVS might explain to Rey who she really is and why she must re join the Resistance.
     
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    Because the PT right now is big no go and is avoided from Disney and other company's.
    PC and Videogames releases feature OT stuff in the future/Pinball games OT based/Comics OT based/canceling of Clone Wars and so on, the list is long.
    I just wanted to mention a few things.
    The PT is canon, but I think Disney would like to erase it if they could. (or brave enough some day to do so)
    Just look at the upcoming movies and the merchandising, no PT related stuff is planned right now, it's dead, nobody wants to touch it even with pincers.
    I know that they never showed his face. (It's not irrelevant to me because I know who is under the helmet)
    Maybe it's a missed oportunity, but in not showing his face they played the character inadvertently in the cards.
    He became the mysterious character with a great presence/looks that became later a fan favourite.
    George Lucas must have been angry with himself.
    He wasted the character in RotJ, because he don't recognized or even considered how popular Boba Fett would become.
    Then he came up with the weird PT origin/backstory for him, to Marketing the Boba Fett character for a easy cash grab.
    Nontheless the first guy under the helmet was a white guy called Jeremy Bulloch and not Temura Morrison.
    The PT doesn't matter, sooner or later Disney and Lucasfilm will retcon his PT origin. (I'am serious and I would bet my money on it)
     
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    I think you'll see that the man under the mask took the name Boba Fett, but is no longer the kid foreshadowed in II.

    You mean it's just a rip off of Dread Pirate Roberts and how the mask just transfers because the name instills such respect?

    Yup.

    They won't say Jango Fett's arc never happened, only that the Boba Fett in the films is not Jango.

    Also I'll say something even more radical. If the films aren't well received, in about 10 years after their release, Disney will claim the anthologies aren't canon either and try all over again to rewrite the history of the OT characters.

    This is the company that produced SIX Herbie the Love Bug films folks, the most utterly WASPY and milquetoast franchise of all time. A Polynesian actor at the head of a Disney multi-billion dollar franchise? Disney endorsing that?

    It could happen, but I wager my cynicism is right. After all, this is the company that STILL hasn't let a female actress lead a Marvel film yet and push one of the best African-American directors away from Black Panther, because she wanted just a little creative control over her film.

    This is the company that went SILENT on #GamerGate for fear of reprisal.

    This is a company with a DEEP HISTORY of homophobia and racism and still panders to socially-conservative Americans with their marketing.

    This is a company that turns any director away who won't follow their precise plan.

    It could still be a very fun film, but it will be very generic fun, that won't take risks, only repeat patterns that worked before. That appears to me how they have managed Star Wars since they took it over.

    I hope I am dead wrong.

    I also concede I've hated Boba Fett since they day I had to donate blood, shave my eyebrows and send in a gazillion proofs of purchase just get his action figure, under the promise he was a "prominent" character in the new "Star Wars 2" film. :)

    Let's hope I am wrong, good news is, I often am.
     
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    LEGO still produces PT sets.

    During TCW, almost no OT stuff was planned. Does this mean everyone hated the OT and was scared of it? No, it just means that Star Wars goes through different phases of focusing on certain eras.

    Yes, but this no longer matters, as Fett was confirmed via AOTC and the inclusion of Morrison's voice in ESB to be a Jango Fett clone. This isn't an issue of overwriting the PT; in this case, the OT has been overwritten, and it's been that way since 2004. If you think they're randomly going to go back to an earlier edition of ESB that doesn't have Morrison's voice—after 10 years of it being this way—I think you're wrong. The first guy under the helmet of Vader was a Scottish guy. Does Vader really look like David Prowse?

    The PT matters; otherwise new comics wouldn't keep referencing it... Do you not read the Darth Vader comics? TONS of PT references. Battle droids, Geonosis, dead Geonosians, Vader slaughtering Tuskens as further revenge for his mother's death, etc. There's a lot in there that directly and unmistakably draws on PT material to further connect the PT with the OT. Read the comics; you will see that Disney is not shying away from the PT. To retcon something as big as Boba Fett's origin would be ridiculous. How would they edit that out? How would they remove Boba in all the scenes he appears in? Would they just remove that whole chunk of the movie? This is a tad ridiculous. I'd bet money that they will NOT retcon his PT origin. If you need any more proof, they just released the novel Dark Disciple, which features Boba (as in, the kid from AOTC and TCW) using his armor for the first chronological time, in canon...
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 9, 2015, Original Post Date: Jul 9, 2015 ---
    "Foreshadowed"? TCW (which is just as much canon as the movies are) confirms that Boba the kid becomes a bounty hunter. Dark Disciple, the newly released novel (also canon) features young Boba bounty-hunting, wearing his classic OT armor... There is simply no indication whatsoever that Boba Fett is someone else. I honestly don't understand why anyone would think that.

    Boba was never Jango...?
     
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    You can please some of the people some of the time, not all the people all the time.

    How can you not like bobas back story. A clone.. during the clone wars, whose father was beheaded by possibly the strongest jedi ever.

    Its like some people don't want star wars to be star wars
     
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    Repeat after me: Canon is fan concept. Canon is fan concept. Canon will always change and is constantly changing. I must always remember that any study of every toy and game company proves this. :)

    In all seriousness, none of that precludes the idea that the identity of Boba Fett changed in between the cartoon and the Boba Fett of the OT. You're clinging to things that nobody in charge of the brand is going to consider when they make a decision on who they will cast.

    None of that means MvS is Boba Fett of course, but it's a whole new world. Besides the cartoon you reference turned Darth Maul into a spider. If Maul can become a spider, it's not that improbable that the identity of Fett is not the kid in Episode II by the time we get to the OT.
     
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