RUMOR The Max von Sydow is Boba Fett Theory

Then why does it only count when Lucasfilm officially dictates what it is?

Really? Nobody would consider that Boba is a clone when they cast someone as him? Then why did they consider that he was a clone back when his voice in ESB was changed to reflect that? Why did it matter back then? Why is he still being shown to be a clone in new canon material, and furthermore, why is that clone being shown to wear the classic Boba Fett armor? These new stories are under Disney's direction.

If you think that directors (who want more than anything to get new Star Wars right, and not disappoint fans) wouldn't take Fett's previous canon representations into consideration when casting him, you either assume them to be stupid, or to deep down not actually have any respect for Star Wars or the canon.

If Disney's wish is for him to be someone else entirely, they would not keep putting out material that shows classic OT Boba is the clone from AOTC... So yes, it does preclude the idea that his identity changed between TCW and ESB, as well; the voice in ESB confirms that the Boba of the OT is still a clone. I don't know how much clearer I or anyone here can make this for you. Disney has already demonstrated and proven the route they're taking, with regards to Boba Fett. I'm not sure what sort of odd wishful thinking you have, or why on Earth you would ever want Boba to be someone else? What's the matter with his current portrayal in canon?

Except that the same show that showed Maul as a spider also showed young AOTC Boba as a bounty hunter. And the new novel Dark Disciple shows that the direction they are sticking with, 13 years after it was first confirmed as being so, is that Boba is one and the same between the PT and the OT.

 

Nobody ever said that Boba Fett is Jango Fett. Nor is Jango Fett a "wannabe bounty hunter"; he was said to be the galaxy's most notorious bounty hunter during his lifetime. Also, what do you mean by "the real Boba Fett"? Maybe back before 2004 or so. But since AOTC and ESB confirmed Boba's clone heritage, Bulloch's appearance under the mask (who nobody but big fans would even know about, let alone care about) is as irrelevant as David Prowse's face is to Vader.

 

1. It would be important to most fans who are pleased with the canon reboot, as well as most fans who hold the movies as canon. It has always been understood to be this way.

2. What would someone have against a Kiwi accent?

3. No, you take heed when you're writing stories in a new canon that is more regulated than Star Wars canon has ever been, before. You take heed when your bosses are making it clear—via other new canon materials—that Boba Fett in the OT is the same as Boba Fett in the PT and TCW. And you take heed especially when this younger generation of Star Wars fans, those who grew up knowing Boba Fett to be a clone, is counting on you to not screw up their childhood's idea of who Boba Fett is. The people who even know the name Jeremy Bulloch, or that Boba was EVER cast as a white man under the mask, is swiftly dwindling. There is no reason for them to alter the new canon. It'd be one thing if Boba being a clone was previously an EU thing that was now being rewritten. But you're talking about changing something that the movies have proven to be canon. That's the last thing that would ever be changed; it certainly wouldn't be changed without George's blessing.

That's exactly what I believe, and with good reason. Check out my further explanation, below.

You may be right about other franchises and even Star Wars in the past. But the whole point of this new EU-wipe and reboot of canon was to assure fans that these sorts of changes and continuity errors would not occur again. The difference here is that the previous EU was never considered "canon" on the same level as the movies, or even TCW. This reboot now makes all things equal. The comics are now as canon as the films. The books are now as canon as the films. The TV shows are now as canon as the films. The reason being that they don't want to have a repeat of the past 30 years, which is a lot of conflicting material being created that messes up the story. This reboot isn't an actual "reboot" in the classic terminology, per se; it's more like wiping away all the gunk that was never meant to be 100% canon to begin with. That does not include rewriting the movies, or TCW. I direct you to this article as a refresher.

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Nowhere in this quote does he say that he condones the EU writers trying to keep Boba alive. Because officially speaking, Boba did die. And thank God that the new canon currently holds that to be true, at least for now. I wouldn't mind them having him survive in canon at some point, but this quote really does nothing for the argument that his identity changes. Saying a character survived what appeared to be an onscreen death is much different from his ethnicity changing...

I have now proven 2-3 times that there IS indeed something that says the identity doesn't change. Still honoring canon. In AOTC, Boba Fett is a clone. In TCW, Boba Fett is a clone. In Dark Disciple, Boba Fett is a clone (who also wears his OT armor). In ESB, Boba Fett is a clone. I think you're trolling, at this point.

 

Okay, here's two possibilities I have for Boba being a different person:

1. There's about a year between ESB and ROTJ and we never hear Boba actually speak in the latter. Maybe after taking Han to Jabba, someone on Tatooine managed to kill Fett and take his armor; I doubt that a notorious gangster like Jabba would much care if someone new showed up in the same armor and asked for the old guy's job (especially after killing him for it).

2. This is a long shot, but what if clone-Boba died in the Sarlaac? Maybe someone winds up down there and finds the armor still sitting there and uses it it escape? They'd have to explain how clone-Boba died (massive trauma to the ego?) and new-Boba lived, but I could see something like this playing out.

Both of those scenarios would allow clone-Boba to fulfill his arc within canon and have someone new take up the mantle. After all, if you're trying to get a career in bounty hunting, what better way to establish your credit than to take it from the reigning champ?

Edit: @Fartkraum : a Troll rating, really? For responding to the thread topic? Who's the troll, the one who responds or the one who trolls him?

 

See, this is actually plausible. The 2nd one actually more than the first, IMO. Either way, props to you for coming up with something legitimate.

 

You cited an opinion; I cited a fact. The EU was never considered canon; I always knew that the second Lucasfilm wanted to alter the canon in regards to the EU, they would not hesitate to do so. This is why the new canon announcement is so important. It voids all of the EU, and brings everything newly created up to the par of the movies.

Lied to? How so?

Canon sells a dime when the business succeeds the best if canon is followed. Do you really think even casual Star Wars fans won't notice Boba Fett being a different race/different person? This isn't some minutiae like changing the amount of antennae a battle droid has, or adding an extra shield generator to a ship. This is something extremely obvious.

It's pretty sad that so many people don't seem to understand; the 30 years of canon was never canon. I never considered ANY of it to be canon. A fair amount of people didn't. This is why I was so puzzled that anyone would revolt to the decision to do the new canon reboot; none of the stuff they ever held dear was actually canon to begin with! Again, in that GL quote you provided, nowhere does he say he agrees that Boba is in fact alive. And GL's version of Star Wars was always taken as the highest level of canon.

Saying a character didn't die is not the same as saying a character changed race in between two movies.

 

So far as I know is Lego the only company that uses the PT material and I think it depends on a old deal with Lucasfilm.
With the TFA release around the corner and the next movies at the horizon, they will start to make money out of the new trilogy and the spin off's.
The PT is outdated and I suppose the merchandising demand is not very high. (maybe at a new low point at the TFA release)

No, just bad decisions from George Lucas & Co. in my modest opinion.

That is what I meant, Disney it at the helm and they can do whatever they want with the franchise and as example they can cancel Boba Fett's origin.
No way in hell that they will cast Temura Morrison as Boba Fett, if they plan a movie with Boba Fett in it.

I have nothing personally against you @Snoke, but you're try to quibble/outsmart me and other members.
We are all fans and know our stuff, but most of us see it in a different light.
Every person is different, to each his own, be tolerant and accept other peoples opinion.
By the way don't give me a trolling rate if you disagree with me, give me a disagree instead, this would be fair.

Edit: thanks for changing the rates @Snoke this is fairplay!

 

Sure, they legally could do anything. They could have Winnie the Pooh and Iron Man join the SW universe if they wanted. My point is that just after announcing the new canon and that they will work hard to make sure that everything lines up and doesn't contradict, it would not make sense for them to randomly change up Boba (thus undoing the movies, which is the last thing they would touch).

I don't think they would either. But we wouldn't have to see him helmet-less, so it wouldn't be a problem to get Temuera or someone else to provide his voice.

Sorry; I fixed that.

 

I agree on this with 100%

Thanks.

 

Lobot actually got his first lines in the new Lando comic. He talks throughout the entire issue. :0

 

It just came out July 8th. Just in time for this thread lol

 

I have to disagree. You make a great point and I get it but. Why if the Canon is irrelevant why not keep the status quo. Prior to the Disney deal the entire EU was not canon. Only the movies and the TCW was said to be actually Canon. Lucas said many times that the stories in the EU were separate from the core stories of the movies and later the cartoon. He pointed out numerous times where the stories in the books were different than what he would have done. When Disney took over they made it clear they wanted 1 to write their own stories, and 2 make things easier to follow. Everything they are doing is Canon. They want weight behind what they are doing. They want the comics and the cartoons to be seen as important to the fans who want the whole story.

 

But as you pointed out they change the canon any time they want just to make more action figures. My point is if they care less about the continuity why make their first step to establish a hard continuity line and declare a more rigid structure than before.

 

Exactly what I've been trying to tell him... Disney is making a bigger deal than anyone EVER has about keeping the canon consistent. It wouldn't make sense for them to suddenly disregard it. And Disney hasn't forgotten about the PT. Loads of new canon comics, novels and the Rebels show are referencing PT stuff... They're actually doing a better job now than ever before at cohesively tying the whole saga together.