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The Men in Rey's Life featuring Reylo & Luke and Han, Finn

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by starwarsforever, Aug 18, 2019.

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Which male left the best impression on Rey

  1. Kylo Ren

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  2. Finn

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  3. Han

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    37.5%
  4. Luke

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  5. Chewie

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    These are clips from all the men in Rey's life from The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi.

    Purpose of this video is to show how the men in Disney Star Wars trilogy makes Rey who she will be in The Rise of Skywalker . Her friendships, romance, teachers and love and lost .

    With her friendships we see with Finn, Han, and Luke their interactions in the two movies. Her teachers, Han, Kylo Ren and Luke. Some might ask how Kylo Ren was one of Rey's teachers its very easy to see in TLJ that Kylo was Rey's second teacher explaining to her her weakness from his point of view and he used it for his own benefit. While Luke was not the teacher Rey thought he would be in the beginning, he reject her many times due to his inner personal troubles, this is how Kylo became her teacher. Then later Luke became the teacher that she needed.

    Romance: Rey in the Force Awakens develops some feelings for Finn that turn to a lost by the end of the Last Jedi the ending scene in this video shows it clearly. Ben Solo takes her attention away from Finn. You can see in The Force Awaken the Friendships is clear by the end of the movie Rey accepts the Force once she seen Finn is hurt or thinking he was dead because he stood up to protect her. This was the start of their romance and bounded their friendship. This we see in the beginning of the Last Jedi when Rey asked Chewi about Finn status a number of times worried to see if he pulls through. But her feelings for Finn becomes clouded once Snoke made a force bond between her and Kylo. The Monster she seen in TFA now becomes her main purpose to save. This shows also Rey is also not perfect with making decisions. Rey loses some her attachments and concerns for Finn after Rey and Kylo Force touched, we see this in the clip when Rey is on the Falcon getting in the pod to go see Kylo to save him, she tells Chewi "if you see Finn tell him...." the lost of words, her feelings for Finn are now clouded and she can't find the words to say to him. This is a the nature of women their hearts leads to one man. Chewi finds the words to say to Rey because her Feelings for Finn are clouded. Once she meets Kylo and see who he really is, she is forced to reject his offer due to her agreement to Luke that she would not fail him and become like Kylo. Her heart is broken its torn the reason why she cries. Another scene shows also that her feelings for Finn that was becoming a romance was lost, the scene where Rey in the elevator with Kylo we can see the outside of it going up while Finn and Rose and DJ is passing by it on the plat form. This shows that Rey can't sense Finn is there. Some might say she should not but Maz sense Han in TFA as soon he walked through the door she knew it was him. Rey did not sense Finn because her feeling for him at this point are clouded. She say to Kylo she help him turn to the light in a in-loved way of speaking " I help you turn" standing close to him.

    Lost:the ending scene in this video was classic for me Rey see's Finn for the first time after rejecting Kylo's offer. Seeing Finn was seeing a sincere man who has feelings for her and seeing him saved and safe brought her happiness but not romantically . Then Kylo sensing Rey and her closing the door to Kylo Ren because he reject her offer, she failed to save Ben Solo and her heart is romantically broken, and Kylo is like his grandfather Annakin at this point. On the Falcon another classic scene that many of the fans miss is Rey looking at Finn caring for Rose. There a feeling of concern who is Finn with caring for another woman, appears to spark something in Rey. Some Reylos said this is Rey wishing she had Ben Solo who she felt for so she was looking at Finn and Rose in this way wishing it was her and Ben. I say no, I looked at this scene for two years now and its Rey regretting letting Finn go to chase Ben Solo its her gut feeling knowing she does not deserve Finn because he been 100% truthful for her. It was a lost opportunity for her to lose someone who in all two films was focused on saving and being with her. Or Rey's feelings for Finn are stronger than before and she jealous to see him with another woman, he is not by her side who is emotional and physically hurt with Luke's broken saber in her hand. Lesson for Finn is the fight not just for Rey, but for a bigger cause that is beyond Rey.

    Lost: Rey loses Luke to the Force, Luke was the teacher Rey did not wanted but was the teacher that Rey needs. Many fans dislike how Luke was portrayed in TLJ I also hated it, but Luke was the teacher Rey needed we see how our role models are in real life not what we though he would be. Also Luke can be Rey's father and for that to happen Luke needed to turn from some of the ways of the Jedi. If Luke was the Luke we seen in TROJ he would never father a child, because it goes against the Jedi ways. There's clear signs even when Luke took a dozen of students he turn from some of the Jedi ways because the Jedi only have one student to a Jedi, he had a dozen. So at this point Luke might be Rey's father or father a child with someone.

    Father figures: Han and Luke, from TFA Han have an interest in Rey, and we see a compassion Han when he asked Rey if she wants to take a job working with him and Chewi. He tells Rey indirectly in Hans way he took a liking to her this is why he mention Chewi really likes her because Han really likes her. He shows his father image with Rey on the screen when he gives her a blaster to protect her self showing he cares for her safety. This is why there are many fans speculation that Han is Rey's father. Rey looks up to this legend Han Solo the rebel general . Han also knows Finn wants to save Rey once his son Kylo takes her. Han looks at Kylo walk off with Rey. His trouble son he loves with Han's newly founded friend he is drawn to.

    Luke: we see that Luke pushes Rey away many times as Luke struggles with him inner fight, many times Luke reference to Rey 'the Jedi is a lost cause' and Rey does not agree with him we see this in the Last Jedi. Luke is not the teacher Rey wants but he is the teacher that she needs at the end of the movie. Rey was looking for compassion something she did not have growing up. We see the clip when Rey getting the lesson on the rock that Luke is the father figure as he teaches Rey what is the force, we see this when he softly grabs her hand and planted it on her side speaking to her as a father speaks to his daughter giving her a lesson in life.
     
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    It would be much better and much more readable if you format your post. It's exhausting to read and makes your point look unserious and amateurish.

    They have no romance. Rey friendzoned Finn. ;D

    Kylo left the most (not necessarily the best, but that doesn't matter) impression on Rey. He's the darkness to her light. Yin and Yang.
     
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    No one said they was romantically involved
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    Love: rather yet heart broken, Rey heart was broken a few times in the Last Jedi by Skywalkers Kylo Ren and Luke Skywalker.

    Rey was very naive and it shows that she not 100 percent a Mary Sue she have flaws as Snoke said when he set the trap for her that she was not wise enough to evade it . That which she was looking from Luke and he rejected her she founded it in the wrong place in Kylo Ren. Its the classic story on how some women find love all in the wrong places with men who uses and abuse them, and that what she found in Kylo Ren ( Hey Reylos). Even when Kylo asked Rey to join him he was speaking down to her " you come from nothing"..." you have not part in this story" that not how lovers speak but Kylo loves Rey and this you can tell when she reject his offer and takes the Skywalker saber from him Kylo prevents her from taking it. This is true that Kylo loves Rey or he is related to her deep down and another reason for wanting him to join her. If Kylo had no feelings for Rey he would let Rey take the light saber and draw his that was right on his left side. Rather yet he prevent a fight between them, because this he did not want either because he loves her or either because he was lying when he said her parents sold her off for drinking money.

    In the clip in this video you can see that Kylo Ren has feelings for Rey when she closed the door on him on the Falcon closing the Force bond, he is sadden this is how mad men love ( plot hole of the movie Rey had the power to close the force bond). Kylo loves her and because of the rejection maybe want to kill her? No, Kylo has bigger plans for her related to ruling over weaker ones. Maybe Kylo and Luke are the same, Luke turning from the Jedi ways and turning his self off from the Force and Kylo Ren not wanting part of the Jedi or Sith when he invites Rey for them to make a new order and leaving the way of the Jedi and Sith. Kylo nature her to a point where he can use her to help kill Snoke and his guards, his master plan. The clip in this video shows this clearly when Kylo has his first Force connection with Rey he asked to her and his self how is she doing this, " this will kill her" so he knew this was not Rey's doing but someone one stronger that's why he said " the effort would kill her" also foreshadowing Luke at Crate fighting him but really is not there, very brilliant from RJ only thing I give him credit for. Kylo knew it had to be Snoke who made the bond and used Rey to help defeat him. Rey felt for the sad Ben Solo and felt in love with Ben Solo hearing how Luke who rejected her and was trolling her on Achto showed her why Ben Solo became Kylo Ren because how Luke treated him. Kylo used this to turn her to assist him he used her and she felt for it.
     
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    Explaining the clips from The Men in Rey's Life... Han Solo the surrogate father.

    Father figure Han Solo: there is a scene in the clip where Han tells Finn " Women always find out" this is a reference between Han and Leia we can see this in Star Wars comic books when Han with a woman who assisting Han, Luke and Leia that she is Han's fake wife in a scam to steal money and Leia looks at Han as he covers his face with shame caught lying.
    Screenshot 2019-08-19 at 11.20.15 AM.png

    So when Han tells Finn that women always find out the truth, this shows that Han can see that Rey has feelings for Finn, and Han giving Finn advice about it shows that Han has an attachment to Rey. Han sees Rey's love for the Falcon it appears so much that Rey is just like him as a pilot and the love he had for the Falcon as we see in Canon material such as Solo the Star Wars story and comic books and older Star Wars movies. Rey treats the Falcon just as Han treats and love it.

    Rey watched Han being killed by his son:
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    Rey's reaction to Han being killed by his son shows that Rey is watching another family member being killed. Ben Solo took Han away from Rey, in The Last Jedi we see the dialogue between Rey and Kylo when she asked did he love his father and why did he kill him, when his father cared for him. This shows Rey deep attachment to Han and wanting to belong to a family, Kylo reminds Rey she is looking for love all in the wrong places, which is her weakness. This is so untrue because Han meeting Rey brought Han back to the fight, Rey dealing with Luke brought Luke back to the fight. Rey also had a positive impact on these to legacy characters and also another reason there is a lot of fans speculating that Rey is either a Solo or a Skywalker. But in all honesty Rey's character and the remaining new characters, Finn and Poe all have parts of these characters taking from Han, Luke, and Leia to give these new characters a resemblance to the original characters. Putting Rey's character with Han and Luke took the old fans and connect them to the new Disney Star Wars' characters. So Rey's interactions with Han is such as father and daughter and teacher.

    The best scene that shows Han as a father figure for Rey is when he wants to recruit her this is a classic scene that connects Han and Rey. Han reached out to the female lead, or reaching out to a long lost family member or become her surrogate father. Screenshot 2019-08-19 at 12.01.18 PM.png

    I think in The Rise of Skywalker we might see Leia be Rey's surrogate mother or connecting with her true family Screenshot 2019-08-19 at 11.58.42 AM.png Screenshot 2019-08-19 at 11.58.11 AM.png .

    Han the teacher: Han's teaches Rey about the Force and the history of Luke's Jedi order and Ben Solo destroying that.


    Another connection between Rey and Han, and Finn as two positive men in Rey's life and Finn starting on the same level as her.
     
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    Finn and Rey were supposed to be together, it’s just a couple of guys who never had girlfriends are insecure, and begged Disney to fulfill their wishes, thus the unoriginal “friendzone” argument that somehow became widespread among the so called fandom
     
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    This next topic is how Rey & Rose mirror each other in the Last Jedi, meeting their heroes and they're not what they expected or are they?

     
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    I'm saying it now : D

    This. Like Daisy said in one of her latest interviews- their relationship is complicated.

    That's a cool observation @starwarsforever, and that makes me think - I would love to find out how Ben Solo was like as a pilot before he became Kylo Ren.
     
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    This video will cover the men in Rey's life how Rey and Rose mirrored each other when meeting their heroes for the first time and got something else.


    Please if you like the video, please like and share it.

    In this video, you will see Rey meeting her hero Luke and he's not the Legend she had learned about. Also Rose meeting Finn for the first time after hearing stories about him from her sister and other resistance fighters how he left the First Order and help destroy Star Killer Base. You also will see how Luke and Finn mirrored each other in The Last Jedi by both of them running from the fight and how they came back to support the cause.
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    my vote goes to Finn.

    she had spent her life looking after herself.. trusting nobody.

    and then a complete stranger surprises her
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    and then puts everything on the line to rescue her
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    everything changed for Rey when she met Finn. an honest guy with a huge heart
     
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    Nicely put! I wanted to add that the Finn Rey has met on Jakku wouldn't have been the same if Finn hadn't met Poe. Imo Poe gave Finn so much.
     
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    agreed. Finn had already found the courage to want to break free from the tyranny of that awful... awful.. awful ! General (hehe.. soz :D), but in Poe he found someone with an abundance of spirit and confidence oozing out of him. an infectious guy who clearly made a massive impact on Finn
     
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    Without Poe, Finn would have just stick to himself. Poe taught him the lesson of trusting in each other. I hope we see more of that in TROS.

    I don't know why you're bringing this up - instead of being a part of the discussion - but this is old news. :p The OP already fixed it a long time ago.
     
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    Finn in my view left the best impression on Rey, then followed by Han Solo from the Force Awakens.

    Finn who was fleeing for his fears returns back just for her. If we look at Rey what caused her to have a force vision is when Finn who she bonded a friendship, told her he is leaving (due to his fears) when he walked away from her, you can see it in Rey's face being abandon. This is when the Force calls out to Rey with hearing her self as a child being left behind and she follows these screams of her self as a child. The Force uses this abandonment experience of Rey's to draw her in.

    It's very odd because Finn once he saw his close fellow stormtrooper being killed something inside of him snaps, and the mind control of the first order no longer works, after the lost of his fellow friend. Rey and Finn both have trama and lost. This is the main reason after Finn leaves Rey, and noticed something harmful has happened to her he returns to save her. It also shows the Force joined Rey and Finn in this friendship. Finn as Rey both does not know their family' names, or who they belong to. They both were taken as children.


    Kylo Ren also left an impression on Rey and its very complicated one ( it makes me think they are related) someone comments its the Yin and Yang, Yin and Yang is not a love circle most Westerns confuse about this concept. But I say on screen they are not Yin and Yang because Yin and Yang are opposites that work together with one another, not better than the other, so do we find Rey and Kylo as Yin and Yang or not? Let us look at what it means:


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    Rey has beat Kylo in the force awakens. So we have to take a deeper look. Did Rey beat Kylo or he dropped his guard because he told her she needed a teacher.
    When Rey used the mind control and escape and Kylo tells other stormtroopers about capturing her " that she just began to tap into her powers". This means Kylo know why she is powerful and said she just began to tap into her power. Know she is the lightside of his darkside. RJ answers this when Snokes tells Rey and Kylo when Dark raise the Light to meet it.

    So we can say Kylo knows what he is doing with Rey, in the Throne Room after Kylo defeated Snoke and his guards with the help of Rey. Kylo masterfully deceived Rey as if he will be the next in line to be a Jedi. This is when Kylo tells Rey to let the Jedi, Sith, rebellion die and make a new order. Rey refused his offer and try to retrieve her saber from him and Kylo prevents her from taking it. Someone will notice Kylo has his saber on his side so this means the reason why he prevents her from taking her saber back is that he chose not to fight her.

    So the impression Kylo left on Rey is a complicated one that is still evolving and Rey was very naive to be lored in by him. So she learned a valuable lesson from Kylo Ren who been her best teacher this far!

    I really hope Kylo Ren in 9 will be the new face for Star Wars.







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    Absolutely. I was a good decision of JJ Abrams to not kill him off in TFA, can't wait to see Rey and Poe onscreen together in TROS. She seemed to be a bit annoyed by him in the comic, it's going to be interesting if we'll get a similar dynamic in the movie.
     
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    I'd have to say Finn. Because Finn drives the story, or rather gets the story going. He gets Rey to do something out of her ordinary life and find her gift, on her path, and so on...
     
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    Do you think he will drive her story for 9? Or his arch for this purpose finished in 7?
     
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    I don't think his arc is finished but Finn won't need to get Rey on her way. I think it will be more Rey and Kylo.
     
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    I think the same thing.
     
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    My gut feeling is that Poe will end up being Rey's boss, meaning in command of the Resistance at some point in the movie.
     
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