The New Jedi Order. What will it look like?

You're very close to being spot on IMO

 

I don't think you are wrong. I actually believe Luke was wrong. He tells Rey that the Jedi, at the height of their power, allowed a Sith Lord to take over the galaxy. A Jedi trained Darth Vader. Okay, Mace Windu, in II (I think it was II) told Yoda that perhaps they needed to alert the senate to the fact that their ability to use the force had diminished. Doesn't sound to me like they were at the height of their power.

The second part, about training Darth Vader... It wasn't as if Obi-Wan KNEW he was going to turn to the dark side. "Always in motion is the future" a wise Jedi Master once told Luke.

To me the lesson to be learned was to divorce the religion from the state, the Jedi Order should not be the enforcement tool of the Republic. They were prosecuting the war, not exactly what an order of religious monks should be doing. The force is always for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

Having said that, I do think the order will, and should, look different than it did. And yes, failure is the greatest teacher. There is nothing wrong with Jedi temples and rules for the order, the problem was it became entangled with the state. Or that's what I took from the PT.

 

Hot take

We will never see the new Jedi order in canon. Or at least, not in a show or movie.

 

I would say that is a very lukewarm and very plausible take...only thing I'd object to is "never"
I think 5 years is possible. 10? More likely.
But essentially an eternity in the modern media age

 

I don’t think we are going to see a new Jedi Order in IX. The time gap between TLJ and IX is not going to be long enough for there to be a new Jedi Order established. I think it is safe to say that Rey may be the only Jedi we see in IX. I agree with @Jaxxon some. I think it will be a while before we see a new Jedi Order. Especially, if the Benioff and Weiss movies take place in the past instead of in the future, we will not be seeing a new Jedi Order on screen anytime soon.

 

In IX, with anywhere between a 1 to 5 year jump, we may see Rey with at most an apprentice.

The NJO will need places to store artifacts. They can call them storage sheds if they want, but those storage sheds will need guards, who will be Jedi trained. For all intent and purposes, those will be temples.

I can see the writers will be challenged mightily on this from real world events. As North America and the western world is moving away from religion, it makes sense that the Jedi will move away from obvious resemblances to religion. The problem is how do they replace that? It's like when people complain with government, that's fine, but usually the alternative is non-existent or provides its own problems, equal or greater than what we have. Even with no established hierarchy, there will still be a hierarchy. Some Jedi will be more proficient with the force and it's many aspects, wiser, better duelists ect... they may not have titles, but that doesn't do away with a hierarchy. Some will be the first apprentices, some will be new, some slating somewhere in between. That too will have an effect on hierarchy. Even if in theory, no one word will carry more weight than another's, some will. A new student with great insight into one particular field, who's unknown to the established fully trained Jedi will likely need support of one or more of them to have that insight validated.

Then there's the question, if there is no established hierarchy, how do they deal with major threats. If they don't band together, the dark force users won't necessarily follow suit. Will every Jedi battle against armies of dark force users in groups of one or two? Doesn't seem like a good plan for their survival. The logistics just doesn't work.

I think revamped rules is what's needed, like what @DarthWardog said. Although I guess it's possible they do first become roving bands or duo's (master and apprentice) of nomadic Jedi's, but at some point a threat will emerge that will have to consolidate them under one flag, so to speak. In such an event, some may even go to the other side. I guess they can disband after the threat is dealt with, but we've seen in the CW how that can be difficult. The galaxy is a large place and dark force users tend to hide well in the shadows. Not to mention, those Jedi who are not as gifted as others may find comfort in numbers. Not all Jedi are suited to go gallivanting around the galaxy fighting injustice. There is individuality even among Jedi. Some are better suited sitting back and doing research and acting in a supporting role.

I guess they can do like the Avengers in the MCU, be independent until there's a call to assemble. That works for them because Earth is relatively small. In a galaxy, it could take weeks to get everyone in one place, at which time it could be too late. Without a hierarchy they'd have to discuss the course of action in committee, which is more time. Some may not even agree that the threat exists, while others may be at different points in their development, or feel that the problem is beyond their skillset and not want to get involved. That in itself could make for an interesting story, different stories, but it doesn't seem very efficient to me.

Edit: I just want to add, nice post Adam. I could see this being an interesting discussion.

 

I think they need to do something where the "new" Jedi order gets back to its origins: in the comics from dark Horse about the "dawn of the Jedi" the Je'daii (If I spelled it right?) contained BOTH the dark and the light. They acknowledged that: yin and yang. The light, the dark and the balance. I think they are going to bring that in to all of this. I notice that Rey gives in to her emotions quite often. Personally I think it's a bit problematic for the overall story if they don't try and explain that she is either a "grey" Jedi or that she is in balance because she isn't focused on simply using the light, but in using both and thus she is in balance.

Personally, for me at least, that would go a bit of a ways towards making this ST worth it. I think we shall have Rey and maybe one other in this film? Maybe she starts training Poe or Finn? Or they bring in Asoka? I don't know. I would love to have seen a new Jedi order on film.

Assuming that we don't get much more than all of this, I would, were I in charge, want to see them start to build this, and do some of the building in film. Maybe a trilogy of films? Star Wars: New Jedi Order 1; Star Wars: New Jedi Order 2 and 3?

Now that I think about it, maybe what they ought to have the GOT duo work on. A trilogy of films that sets about to tell the story of the Je'daii from what, 25000 years prior to events of TPM. They could change some stuff around if they don't feel comfortable taking all of the information in the comic series "Dawn of the Jedi", although I like what I've read so far (I've read a few issues and will finish the series this weekend).

 

I don't think you will see anything resembling a Jedi Order in IX. They have to finish this story and plant the seeds for the next chapters in IX. Who's to say Rey is even equipped to re-build the Jedi?

I think the new Jedi Order will be similar to The Avengers or Justice League. Separate people living their lives in their worlds but come together for a common cause when they need to.

 

I like this idea. Introduce us to more interesting characters, make it a mix of Avengers and Xmen with different Force users who bring different perspectives within the SW universe. I mean, this is SW, the possibilities really are endless. Have the GoT guys introduce us to some more force users, then the same with RJ and his trilogy. Have an ensemble start to build an academy, then have Ezra or Ahsoka show up to turn everything on it's head. I wouldn't introduce those two until much later, as they're already established. They need to create that ensemble, it would help with the world building, showing them interacting with different parts of the galaxy. I would at least keep one of those 2 for much further down the road to throw everything on its head.

I think an interesting thing about this, is that maybe this is cyclic. I mean, even if they have grey jedi, individuals will have different ideas on how things should be done. This is SW after all, so I can't see things being all peaceful for very long. Maybe it'll be more x-men like, with Xaver and Magneto, but I think we may get a balance, only for one to go to one extreme and have to be countered again by the other extreme, with some trying to stay in the middle and maintain an equilibrium.

I don't know what their plans are or if they've even thought this far ahead. I'll certainly be curious to see how they go about things moving forward. The one thing we learned from the old EU now legends, is that you can't keep things to close to the original 6 movies because that's how it gets horribly repetitive.

 

Like this

 

All new Jedi will be called "Skywalkers". Rey will take the last name Skywalker and start a tradition. Anyone that followed the teachings of Luke Skywalker and the Jedi shall be named a SKYWALKER. Rey will be the first. Rey Skywalker, Jedi Master. Her first student will be Finn Skywalker, Jedi Apprentice.

Rather than end the Skywalker Saga, this is just the beginning!

 

I remember after TFA when we were speculating about TLJ, I mentioned on a few occasions that the end result of this trilogy would be the Gray Jedi. The reaction was almost unanimously "I was crazy and/or stupid".

Now, with the way TLJ left off, and what has been said - along with what has been speculated - about IX, it seems like that's an even stronger possibility now. Honestly, I don't see how it could end any other way without the end of the saga making little sense. I don't expect them to call it the Gray Jedi, but essentially - IMO - that's what we're going to get.

 

I am not sure that we are going to see the central philosophy change. I think that Jedi/light will always be good and the dark will always be bad. That doesn't mean the storytelling has to only be binary and that the heroes can't be complex but if they break the philosophy apart it looses some of the special sauce that makes Star Wars really Star Wars.

 

Rear is the path to the dark side.

 

That is a little cheeky haaa

 

You are not the first person online I've seen put forward this idea, and I think it's awesome! The Skywalkers! I love it.

 

I might be in the minority, but I hope if a new 'Jedi Order' is ever established in the timeline beyond episode IX it follows the Rebels path more. The idea of balance. I really enjoyed how the Rebels series dealt with those questions.