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The Official 2020 NFL Season Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Random Discussion' started by Alamact, Mar 17, 2018.

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    Now just need the Saints to take care of business against Pittsburgh and you guys are in! :D
     
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    You're not kidding, that thing looked like a beauty on replay.



    My favorite play of the night goes to this immaculate pass thrown by Russell Wilson to Tyler Lockett. Peeved I'm once again denied a perfect Pick 'Em week, but honestly I blame myself for trying to be too cute with it and picking against my own instinct. Same thing happened with the Chiefs game versus Los Angeles. If there's two teams I can't pick for to save my life this year, it's Kansas City and Detroit. I'm 0-3 on the Lions.

     
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    Bada bing!

    The Saints send their regards, (and an early Christmas present), @Capt. Andrew Luck and @Alamact!


    Playoff Clinching Scenarios from an article I am currently reading:

    • For the sixth seed in the AFC: Indianapolis at Tennessee, 8:20 p.m. ET on SNF. The winner is the sixth seed in the AFC playoffs. The loser is eliminated.

    • For the AFC North title: Cleveland at Baltimore, and Cincinnati at Pittsburgh, both 1:05 p.m. The Steelers, as crushed as they must be after the weird and slightly unjust loss at New Orleans, will beat the woebegone Bengals. Since only one team from the North can make the playoffs that means the if Ravens beat Cleveland, they win the division.

    • For the final two NFC seeds: Arizona at Seattle, Philadelphia at Washington, Chicago at Minnesota, 4:25 p.m. Seattle clinched a playoff spot Sunday night, and now has to beat the worst team in football, the Cardinals, at home, to clinch the fifth seed. The Vikings (8-6-1) and Eagles (8-7) will battle for one spot. If Minnesota beats the Bears, the Vikings make the playoffs; if they lose and Philadelphia beats Washington, the Eagles are in.

    • For AFC seeding: The Chiefs host Oakland (4:25 p.m. ET), and if the Chiefs beat the 3-11 Raiders, they win first seed and will play at home throughout the playoffs … The Patriots host the Jets (1:05 p.m.), and if the Pats beat New York, they win second seed in the playoffs … Houston has a nightmare scenario: losing to Jacksonville (1:05 p.m.) and falling to the number six seed, with the Colts-Titans winner advancing to first place in AFC South. The 11-4 Chargers are locked at five, unless Oakland beats KC and LA wins at Denver (4:25 p.m.)

    For NFC seeding: New Orleans (13-2) has clinched the top seed … The 12-3 Rams must beat the Niners (4:25 p.m.) to clinch the other first-round bye and will be heavily favored to do so … The 11-4 Bears are likely locked into the three seed; they can only move up with a win over Minnesota and loss by the Rams to San Francisco … Dallas (9-6) is locked in at the four seed, with a Seattle-at-Dallas rematch likely in wild-card weekend. Very attractive TV matchup there.

    And his predictions:
    So … my very imprecise crystal ball shows:

    The AFC
    1. Kansas City
    2. New England
    3. Houston
    4. Baltimore
    5. Chargers
    6. Indianapolis

    The NFC
    1. New Orleans
    2. Rams
    3. Chicago
    4. Dallas
    5. Seattle
    6. Minnesota

    Under that scenario, all four wild-card games would be rematches of 2018 regular-season games, with three played at the same site, and all four games played in Eastern or Central time.
     
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    Andrew Luck's fiery halftime speech lifts Colts from slumber

    INDIANAPOLIS — They were in there forever.

    Ninety seconds until the second-half kickoff, and still no sign of the home team, save the kicker and the holder and the long snapper. Eighty seconds. Nothing. Seventy. Still nothing.

    Here it was, the 30 minutes that would either save or sink this stirring Indianapolis Colts’ season ... and they weren’t even out on the field. Time was running out. Intermission was over. No warmups. No stretching. No nothing. Where were they?

    Huddled inside the locker room, getting an earful from the franchise quarterback.

    “Passionate,” coach Frank Reich called it.

    “Down to business,” Andrew Luck allowed.

    “Man, everybody was geeked up after that,” said wideout Zach Pascal. “Energized. Ready.”

    It was in that locker room, playoff hopes teetering, second-half kick beckoning, where Luck shouted, “It’s all right in front of us!” He told his teammates to play together and to stay together. Told them they’d win this game if they stopped getting in their own way.

    “Screaming and yelling, ‘This has got to be better,’” Reich remembers. “‘That was embarrassing. That was pathetic what we did out there in the first half.’”

    That’s how a 17-7 deficit became a 28-27 win, the Colts’ eighth in nine games, and one they desperately needed to keep this improbable playoff pursuit of theirs alive for at least one more Sunday. They finally did make it out for the second-half kickoff with seconds to spare. “We had guys running straight from the tunnel and onto the field,” kicker Adam Vinatieri joked later.

    Revved by Luck’s midgame message, the Colts washed away a lifeless first half with 30 minutes of football that did far more than avoid the embarrassment that would’ve come if their postseason hopes died with a loss to the lowly Giants in the home finale.

    In this comeback was the Colts’ 2018. Slow start. Sizzling finish. Belief unbowed.

    “Last year, maybe even earlier this year, it would’ve been, ‘Oh (expletive),’ same thing, same old story,” cornerback Quincy Wilson said, a player whose own growth this season mirrors that of his team’s. “Today we went down 14-0 and we said, ‘We’re gonna win this game, but we need to clean this (expletive) up.’”

    So they did.

    Luck shouted. They listened.

    “Passionate’s a good way to describe it,” the QB said. “What are the things we can improve? And I think we did improve. I think we did come out of that tunnel with a better mindset than we started the game.”

    While he usually gathers the offense together during halftime, speaking to his line, backs, tight ends and receivers, Luck rarely speaks in front of the entire team. Sunday was different. He was fed up with how they were playing – himself included – so he took the floor and fumed.

    And his teammates loved it.

    “After that, everyone was yelling, ‘Let’s go! Let’s go!’” Pascal said.

    “This team is very accountable, and there were mistakes made,” safety Malik Hooker added. “We just had to look ourselves in the mirror, you know? ‘Am I doing my job at the highest intensity as I can?’ And we felt like we weren’t.”

    An offense that was sputtering in the first half found life in the second. T.Y. Hilton exploded. Chester Rogers caught everything. Dontrelle Inman. Pascal. Nyheim Hines. Marlon Mack. The Colts ripped off 21 points in the final two quarters to win at the buzzer, an outcome by that point that felt more like a when than an if.

    Because that much had changed.

    And because that’s the Luck effect – what was so sorely missing from this team a year ago.

    Give me your eyes, the QB kept telling his receivers in the huddle. Give me your eyes. Down his top two tight ends, down his starting center, down his starting right guard. No matter. Luck drove the Colts 53 yards in eight plays to win it, checking from a called run into a pass on the 1-yard touchdown throw to Chester Rogers that delivered him the 21st game-winning drive of his career.

    “This felt like a 2012 game,” said left tackle Anthony Castonzo, referring Luck’s rookie season and the NFL-record seven come-from-behind-wins he orchestrated. “Like, how did we win that?

    “There’s just a feeling in this locker room and on this team,” Castonzo continues. “I can’t put my finger on it. But everybody believes in each other, and that matters so much every time we take the field.”

    So much of it is Reich, the coach that never blinked at 1-5. The Colts were buried at the bottom of the AFC, tied with the lowly Arizona Cardinals for the worst record in football. He forced his team to block out the noise.

    All they’ve done since is become one of the hottest teams in football, one no one in the AFC wants to see come the postseason.

    One win became two, and two became five. A hiccup in Jacksonville? They answered that with three straight wins. The Colts are winning in different ways, winning with offense one week and defense the next, by building big leads and by coming from behind. They’ve come together, and they’ve come to believe.

    “It’s crazy, it’s crazy,” Reich said. “But the only way that happens is believing in the process and believing in one another. I firmly believe that with every fiber of my being.”

    Want some more crazy? The Colts are 60 minutes from the playoffs.

    From the depths of 1-5 to one win from the tournament.

    Win that one? The Colts will be the most dangerous kind of team entering the postseason: They’ll be a team with nothing to lose.
    There's also a scenario where if: the Texans lose, Patriots lose, Baltimore wins and Indianapolis wins, the Ravens get a first week bye as the #2 seed. The Titans can also get it if all those 4 teams lose but I'm not gonna consider that because Luck is undefeated against the Titans 10-0. They also smell. Terribly.

    I can see this 'got nothing to lose' Jets team beating New England which would pit us against Baltimore in the WC round but I don't want that scenario. Give me old man Brady over the new hotness Lamar. Our defense is terrible against the run. See: this week's game.

    Most likely as you said we're gonna get a rematch with Houston.
     
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    @DarthSnow Now that’s a great post.
    With that set of final game I think the Eagles can get that 6th spot as they have a much easier game against Washington then the Vikings facing the Bears..
    As for actually guessing who is actually going to win those game I don’t have the foggiest :D.
     
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    Chicago has the #3 seed all but locked in, so if they lose it doesn't really matter. Will they rest a few starters? Possibly... but not at the risk of losing. You do not want to pass up a chance to potentially eliminate a division rival from the playoffs.

    An interesting "what if" though... if the Vikings do beat the Bears, they are likely looking at an immediate re-match the following week in the Wild Card round. Would be crazy to play each other 2 weeks in a row. Again, I don't think Chicago wants to put themselves in that position. They'll take care of business on Sunday.

    I'm really excited for the way the AFC playoffs are shaking out. If Baltimore and Indy both make it, as I expect they will, I will be ecstatic!
     
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    I didn't watch the game outside looking at the scoreboard but the Lions held the Vikings just fine for most of the first half. I'm betting Chicago holds them to at least 10-14pts.
     
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    For their first.. 5 drives, I think it was? The Lions held the Vikings to negative yardage. After that, mistakes were made.

    OH! I almost forgot, another Browns-Bengals game brought another Baker Mayfield versus Hue Jackson moment. And it was glorious.

    As time was waning in the 4th, Mayfield nailed Njoku for a pass that went 60+ yards and almost scored, sealing the Browns victory. Immediately after the play, Mayfield trotted past the Bengals sideline, and stared down Hue for an eternity:
     
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    Baker is like the perfect personification of Cleveland.

    Couldn't think of a better place he could have gone to.
     
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    Is that a compliment

    A total clueless BRIT would like to know before commenting further on the subject.
     
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    Nope! Definitely a compliment. He GETS the city and the fanbase. He's the perfect man for the job to turn their misfortune around.
     
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    Ok then
    & it’s about time there fan base hard something to cheer about & also perhaps making a start on becoming more competitive in there division.
     
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    Unpopular opinion: I though the staredown was unnecessarily petty and immature. Sure... you do it in the first game after parting ways on such cold terms and leave Cincinnati with a win. But continuing this playground animosity? I don't know...

    At this point Hue should be beneath them.
     
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    Baker Mayfield: "If you don't like it, I don't care."
     
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    Honestly, I'm with the Captain on this one. It's fun to see Baker being cheeky from time to time, but it feels like he's taking it a tad too far for my taste. There's nothing witty about it anymore, so you're left with just this needless hostility that feels out of place in a professional environment.
     
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    Are you sure it's not because he's playing against your team this week?

     
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    This is what I'm talking about. Disregard the fact that it's aimed against the Ravens - the double standard is what disturbs me. If Cam Newton even dares of saying something along these lines, he's labeled a thug - but when Baker does it, he's a fierce leader? Come on, that's bollocks.
     
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    I'm pretty sure Baker Mayfield is just one of those guys that you're not going to love unless he is on your team.

    I used to have one of those in Ndamukong Suh. Now, I'm back to hating the guy.
     
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    Since 2010, no more than 4 teams have not played in the Wild Card playoff round: Browns, Buccaneers, Bears and Patriots.
     
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    I guess @DarthSnow is being entertained by the Lions @ Green Bay game :D.
    Although he is probably regretting not picking that game as one of this weeks Pick Em choices.
     
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