SPECULATION The Official Rey's Parents in Ep. IX Thread

What does it do for the story? This theory gives explanation to some stuff in the past. If Sideous basically ended up creating Anakin by influencing The Force with Darth Plagueis to create life, then what can be the downside to that? The downside being that the progeny of that Life would ultimately kill him. Hence, why he was so paranoid and being able to 'foresee' that Luke had the power to destroy him and had backup plans. Yadda Yadda Yadda.

In this setup? Sideous ain't dead...

Why would we need to know that? We're talking Rey, not Sideous. Sideous experimented on Anakin/Vader. One of those experiments ultimately ended up becoming Rey. That makes her the sister of Luke and Leia and the final progeny of The Chosen One.

Either way... likelihood they went this way? Almost nil. They'll probably just handwave a Reylo ending and be done with it, because they aren't really interested in continuing the story of the Star Wars Saga, just making green milk and lasersword movies.

 

She's not just a MS (god I hate that term) in TLJ but she's also just portrayed as a complete man chasing bimbo. That's Rey only journey and character arc thanks to a certain Mr Johnson. She's worthless and not worthy of any linneage after that. Kylo's is right and are an extension of what Rian's vision.

 

Who tells Rey? How does the audience find out? Seems like some fan fiction. Did Patton Oswalt pitch this on Parks and Recreation.

 

LOL.. Reylo is fan fiction and i'm the first to say they'll probably go that way. But you're clearly trolling here with no actual interest in the answers, so moving on.

 

Honestly I am neither trolling or even know what the Reylo fan fiction is. Just have always assumed people thought they would get together romantically. Maybe I am wrong. Just so used to people thinking strong female characters need a man to complete them. Just think this whole Sideous is somehow father/creator of Rey is sort of silly and doesnt do anything for the story and long term plan for continued stories. Been a fan for 42 years and never hung up on every movie must be about the Skywalkers. Not to mention would she really be a Skywalker if her mother or father was created by the force.

 

Nope... not everybody.

… and that's not trolling? #rollseyes.

Sideous isn't her father or her 'creator', any more than a Doctor is.

You're saying Luke wasn't Anakin's son? That Leia wasn't his daughter?

 

IF (and that's a big if because nobody knows what Rey will do in Ep. IX) Rey's only purpose is to be Kylo's prize for miraculously being redeemed and then to breed super force babies like champion race horses, then yes, she will indeed turn out to be the most useless character ever. And so much for that strong independent female we've all heard about.

 

As for Reylo and romantically. I am saying that when I see the term Reylo I assume it is just about a romantic story between them. Is it more then that? I dont know.

As for the comment about strong women needing a man. That isnt a Star Wars comment that is a comment about fiction (of all sorts) in general. People just feel the need to get the strong female characters paired off.

I said I have never been hung up about every story must be about the Skywalkers. I mean I like many fans want an Old Republic series. Does it need to be about Shmi ancestors? Not for me it doesnt. Does a film series way in the future need to be about the Skywalkers some how. Not for me it doesnt. I was also saying that if Sideous actions caused the Force to create Luke and Rey, but they have no biological linkage are they really related.

 

Ya... it seems quite weird that people want the two of them to get together to have super-babies, but are totally against making her a Skywalker super-baby, even though dramatic births(twins! While she's dying!) and immaculate conception are a thing with the Skywalkers.

I can't think of anything more boring than Rey having a normal birth and getting abandoned and growing up to suddenly find The Force, just so she can save The Skywalkers. That's not really a rip-roaring yarn to me. And remember, Star Wars, at its core... is supposed to be a rip-roaring yarn of good vs evil.

Me either. But I would hope the Skywalker Family Saga would be well... about The Skywalker Family.

I have no problem with that, so long as its clearly something separate from The Saga.

Why would they not have biological linkage? They both came from Anakin. Different mothers. 'The Force creating life' can be seen as a euphemism. We know Luke's mother. The thread was started as a means of postulating who could feasibly be Rey's mother using information in Solo.

For the mother, The Emperor would need the other half, preferably from a fairly strong-willed person, maybe sensitive to The Force but not actively using it. Maybe he could even have his people test criminals that enter the system to see what could be found...​

 

No, that's not exciting at all to me and I hope that isn't how it turns out. I keep thinking that there's got to be more with Rey than what we've gotten so far and they are saving it for the last installment of the trilogy. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws and hoping for a miracle!​

 

Well JJ is back. Am not sure he can do any emergency surgery on Rey's arc because Rian just dumped on it. But I do think that JJ has a little more respect for both the saga and the characters. But she's not going to be related. I pray that she's not just a pregnancy vessel for Darth Tacky.

 

Pretty much the description for why I created this thread. Grasping at straws and hoping for a miracle. None of this I expect to actually happen, although it would be cool if it did because it would at least continue the story setup in the first six films.

I expect Reylo, with an end to The Saga, and a transition to standalones, whether they be movies or trilogies.

We know he provided outlines for his proposed 7-9 before making and delivering 7. The one for 8 simply got discarded by Rainy, who went his own way. Whether JJ tries to graft on his 9 outline(whatever that was), is an open question. What we do know is he was one of the first proponents for Rey Random, so I don't expect him to move away from that concept.

 

Rey just being a pregnancy vessel would be the worst thing ever to me. That would mean that the whole point of the trilogy is that a random no name girl with super force powers only existed to have babies for last member of the Skywalker bloodline. That sounds absolutely awful, among other things! The possibility of it turning out that way is the number one reason that I'll be watching the internet like a hawk for Ep IX spoilers. If THAT ends up being the entire point of ST then I'm done. In the meantime, I will continue to hope for that miracle...

 

I thought at the beginning of your post that you were headed with a Kira/Solo kid, or Kira someone else kid. I can't say I buy into the whole Palpatine genetics idea. It's neat, but seems pretty comic booky for a movie (even when we live in a time where comic book movies rule, they're extensively re-worked).

I seem to be somewhat unique, or at least rare, that I'm indifferent if Rey is a Skywalker or a random. I think either or can send an interesting message. Personally I think this trilogy was meant to convey that families are not just made by blood, which would resonate with many varying family structures in the real world. Which is kind of why I find the whole Reylo thing repugnant, among other reasons that Buckeye's (and others) have gone over.

Honestly, I'd like to know who Rey's parents are, but I think it would be awesome if they made a movie or trilogy about them, without advertising it as such. Maybe that's what RJ's working on and that could be the final twist... the whole story making up an extremely laid out detailed plan. Depending what they do with Rey in IX, the stakes of that little baby girl could be as big as any DS, based on her power displayed so far.

 

Still confused is this Force conception basically this. While Anakin was still alive Sideous used the force to impregnate some woman. She was preferably strong willed and tested to be force sensitive, ok that means we are using Midichlorians again by the way. Then the offspring is either mother or father of Rey. That person apparently never became Jedi or Sith. Sometime later for some reason that person and partner abandons Rey on Jakku. This would be about 10 years before TFA. They never come back. Then the events of TFA take place and she is discovered. That is the whole new story for Rey.

So to do that in addition to the rest of Ep9 story that story needs to be told. It needs to be told in such a way that the audience doesnt go "Why are they telling me this? Who are these people? What emotional attachment do I have to their story?". Then the rest of Ep9 can continue. This has to fit into the narrative of Ep9 as well. So scene must trigger a rather lengthy flashback sequence. Some event.

Now as for RJ throwing all away that JJ setup. That isnt the case. Daisy said a month before TLJ release who her parents were never change from what she knew from JJ in TFA. Maz says that her parents are never coming back. Oh ok we need that reason in the flash back as well, oh also need to know why they would trust Unkar Plutt. Finally JJ said after TFA opened that her parent are not in TFA. I still feel that the random nobodies story is the best for Rey. It makes it so she doesnt need to rely on someone. She is her own entity. Not some princess of a king/queen. It is her hero's journey to complete.

 

But think actual medical science, not Sith or Jedi mumbo jumbo. You have a major burn victim whose had his legs cut off, who likely would have problems naturally reproducing for painful and practical reasons by normal means. Does this mean he can't reproduce? Or maybe science via Doc Sideous can give him a little help getting something to where it needs to go?

Sure... why not.. its at least canon. Strictly to test the sensitivity though. They mean nothing to anything else.

Nope. Its just Rey.

What makes you think the mother even gave birth to Rey? Remember, Rey isn't born until 10 years after the fall of the Empire. That implies such experiments were not working.

What if falling to the Dark Side means that you can't have kids? That any attempt to have kids will result in the death of the mother(but Luke and Leia only survived because they were well in the 3rd trimester when Anakin fell?) Hence, the need for experiments by Sideous to try to figure out how to make that happen.

What if the only reason Rey did actually come to term, is because Anakin was redeemed and had died? At that point, the Dark Side would no longer kill her or the birth mother. This also allows you to explain how she's the only one and there aren't a lot of other lil Anakin's running around out there. You have to be able to constrain that narratively, or the story gets out of control.
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In fact, what if the biological mother finds all this highly objectionable, and is doing everything she can to get high enough to figure out where her stuff got taken, so she can destroy it such that it never gets used?

Not really.. no. You're looking for a complete breakdown in a series that doesn't give complete breakdowns. Was it explained in Episode 5 how Vader was Luke's father? Was it explained in Solo

Spoiler

how Darth Maul lives

? Certain things would need to be said, but a lot fewer than you think and they wouldn't need to climb Exposition Mountain.

There is also a reason Sideous is doing this to begin with. Ever ask yourself what happens when Vader grows old and dies? What about when Palpatine grows old and dies? What then? If Sideous is to continue to live, he needs to find replacement bodies in a galaxy where he's killed almost all the Jedi. Hence, the shenanigans in trying to get Luke to turn in RoTJ. Hence... experiments.

 

Huh. How can Rey father be Anakin 10 years after his death. Are you saying that a fertilized egg was saved or semen was saved so a woman could get impregnated 10 years later.

In Episode 5 and 6 (back then we didnt know if it was true until ROTJ came out). The difference was we had another film and the character that we were just told was Luke's father was still around and key part of the story.

So your saying it would go something like this "
Rey need to tell you something. Sure what? Well your real parents are Anakin Skywalker and Suzy Smith. Oh ok thanks for letting me know. Now we have to take down that Super Star Destroyer.

Thats would not go over well.

 

You know medical science. I'm proud!

Also factor in that weird reproductive means permeate the series all the way back to the first mention of cloning in 1977. They've had entire wars over stuff like Cloning(which is far harder than anything i'm suggesting). Boba Fett even turned out to be a Clone.

And i'm suggesting the embryo was stored and on file(you can freeze that stuff np), probably for decades while they tried to figure out ways to successfully bring a child of someone who has fallen to the Dark Side to term, and lost with the fall of the Empire. 10 years later, someone came across it... almost like it was buried in a secret underground medical facility beneath the Goazan Badlands on a distant desert planet where the final battle of the Empire occurred... and ended up bringing Rey to term. It only worked because Anakin was now dead and the Dark Side could no longer kill the birth mother before the 3rd trimester. It would be a hell of an origin story, fitting of someone with crazy Force power, while making her The Last Skywalker.

In fact, blast... that's what they should name 9.

Episode IX: The Last Skywalker.

Nope. A writer you are not.