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SPECULATION The Official Rey's Parents in Ep. IX Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by master_shaitan, Jan 3, 2018.

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Who are Rey's parents?

  1. A couple of drunkards lying dead in a Jakku grave.

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  2. Nobodies...but not dead drunkards.

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  3. People with/from a Force sensitive background.

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  4. The Kenobi's...duh!

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  5. Luke Skywalker and his child bride Aya.

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  6. Mr & Mrs Sheev Palpatine.

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  7. The Force!

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  8. The So...the Sol...I can't say it..ok ok...The Solo's! *scoffs*

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  9. Plagueis/The Prime Jedi/Snoke

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  10. Other

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  1. KeithF1138

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    Oh you really want so weird blast. Sorry about the language. By the way the war in the Clone Wars was not over Clones.

    I still would love to hear how you think that Rey would find this out in Ep9.
     
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    It would be weaponized and used to make her strike out in anger and murder the person who said it. Previously, that would have been Snokeā€¦ but either you bring him back, or use someone like Hux(who is already a bit batshit nuts) to do it. She would get to that point because her mother(Qi`Ra?) sets her up. You need the person who does it, to be a highly personal betrayel.

    And in doing so, it would free Sideous to go from that person into Kylo Ren, taking him over. The ST is now the story of how the Emperor, over 30 years, went from 'dying' and losing his body at Death Star Deuce, to finally getting back into a strong, young powerful body while exacting his revenge on the man who killed him, by killing the last of his progeny and presumably changing his fate in the process(of a child of the one he got The Force to create, ultimately killing him), and taking over the galaxy once more.

    And it was all because Rey lost her cool and unwittingly did the one thing he needed her to do.

    He'd then tear her apart and steal the majority of her Super Powers using Ren and her almost-dead corpse would fall off something high and be saved by the Super Friends and get a white Vader-style prosthetic body. They then take off for the Unknown Regions and the Outer Rim as they become the most hunted people in the Galaxy, now back under control of The Emperor. There would also be an interesting side effect at play here in that both Skywalkers in one swoop become unable to procreate. As such, she really does become The Last Skywalker.

    End of Trilogy.

    Either way... two ways this ends. Either it ends the series and they give them a happy ending to leave on a high note. Or Darkness completely wins and takes over the galaxy once more, and you get one last Trilogy sometime in the future for them to undo the damage Rey caused and for Light to finally win for good
     
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    Whoa!
     
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    Her parents are nobodies just as Kylo said. Not everyone needs to be someone in this universe. It helps to expand it.
     
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    Lol.. you asked!

    And fretting over whether everybody is connected to everybody is inconsequential to me. Rey has to be connected with the Skywalkers for the simple reason that she's a main character in The Skywalker Saga. If she's not a Skywalker, you're not writing The Skywalker Family Saga. You're writing X-Men or something. Disney just bought the film side of Fox, go write for those stories if random girls getting super powers is your thing. Those stories sell, they just aren't Star Wars.

    The single most important thing is making sure everything ties together with what has come before, along with the rise and fall of empires in a galaxy far, far away juxtaposed with a story about family and how it ultimately provides the catalyst. Thats Star Wars. My ideas at least do that.

    Reylo? Just lol. #PregnancyVessel. Interesting term that one. I like it.
     
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    You find it awful because you have already decided that, in this scenario, the man has the power instead of the woman. You have decided that this "random" ( I'd rather say "non-Skywalker" or "with unknown parents") "girl" (I'd rather say "young woman") would play second fiddle to this "member of the Skywalker Bloodline" if there was going to be love (or offspring) between these two characters in the Saga.You're emphasizing this imbalance with the very language you use. The words "pregnancy vessel" are solely used to dismiss Rey if she dared to become a mother... as if motherhood was incompatible with her kick ass heroine status...

    But if instead of falling into this semantic trap you have set, you saw Rey as a young woman with strength and agency, ready to save the galaxy and her friends, and you saw Kylo as a modern version of the "damsel in distress", as the young man who needs, rather than be rescued, be given a strong push in the right direction, this Reylo scenario would sound much less awful, less like the 1950's housewife nightmare you have construed, and more like a modern tale, or so I think.

    I don't know if Rey will become a mother in 9 or at a later stage in another trilogy, or end up being a Skywalker, a Solo, or an Agbar for all I care. All I know is that empowered characters like Rey are more about courageous actions than bloodlines.
     
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    I'm not sure what you're trying to say. You want me to see the roles reversed? The Reylo scenario is bad to me, because of what has happened in the last two movies. The interaction between them, the things he has done and said to her, etc. Again, I'm basing this on what has happened onscreen, not on a bunch of "what ifs" that probably won't happen, or fanfiction or theories. No, motherhood wouldn't make Rey any less kick ass, please don't assume that I think that. My point is after the powers that be at Disney have presented and pushed Rey as our strong female jedi, to make her (and here's more what ifs) only be in this trilogy to save the bad guy and pop out more force sensitive kids then that would diminish her as a character. I want to see a strong Rey fighting for the galaxy right along with the men, and if she gets a romance I would hope it would be a respectful relationship with someone who cares and protects here. Not someone who emotionally manipulates her and brings suffering to her and everyone she cares about. That is what I want for Rey. Relevant parents or not, I want her to stand on her own after all is said and done. Not just be for the redeemed bad guy to procreate with.
     
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    Honestly, I want the same. But the only way you'll ever get there is by tearing her down first. She's simply coming from too advantageous a position to be taken seriously. Its not a problem that she is in that position, so long as she is driven low in order to really resonate with the fans and garner sympathy. Its in her comeback and overcoming that adversity, that she becomes that hero everybody wants, and is fully accepted. But don't break her down, and you might as well just pack it in. You'll never get there.

    And this is a story structure that is literally as old as dirt and goes back to Aristotle.
     
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    I want the same too.

    I will also let the writers decide how Kylo is going to evolve and whatā€™s Rey going to do about it. The last time I looked there was an evolution in their relationship and there was room to manoeuvre in the Reylo direction, but what do I know...

    I was just pointing at an imbalance of power you proposed and I had not seen on screen yet.

    And I did not propose what if theories, they were more what if perceptions of or attitudes towards a character or a story that has not happened yet.
     
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    Oh noooooo! Not again!
     
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    Its sure worked out great so far #sarcasm.

    Well.. JJ has stated he has a script.. so something has been decided. And all signs from the leaky-front point to Reylo.

    I look at it as, you can have her become the big hero, or run off and start a new generation of Jedi, from the womb. They're really mutually exclusive.

    If the end of the Saga is Rey, a solitary figure, teaching randoms that are very weak with the Force how to be right and good and be Jedi, having brought Balance to the Force(through the final removal of the excess ability exhibited by herself in her younger years and then Ren) and peace to the galaxy... i'm cool with that.

    This is part of the reason I've always advocated her losing the majority of her Force Ability to Ren at the end of 9. Because when Ren(and Sideous inside of him) dies to end the Saga at the end of 12... That Stuff Goes Away and returns to the Galaxy, such that it can't be used by Sith or Jedi to destabilize the Galaxy ever again. That, in turn, gives the story its meaning.

    And part of that is neither she or Ren, as the last of the Skywalkers, will ever have children. Either separately or together.

    If the Skywalker Saga is to end, then the Skywalkers themselves have to end, saving the Galaxy in the process. Otherwise, you just don't know how to write a story.
     
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    Yeah, getting her to that point may be tricky with only one movie to go. Maybe JJ has a trick up his sleeve? I never called Rey a Mary Sue or anything like that after TFA because I figured that there was a perfectly reasonable explanation coming in the next movie. So much for that! At this point, I don't find her all that relatable or someone to root for.
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    To be fair, this entire thread, and pretty much this whole sub forum is a big "what if" at this point. Nobody really knows what will happen in Ep. IX so it's all speculation.
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    What leaks are you referring to? The only thing I've read so far is the supposed Rey got pregnant by hand touching nonsense. I'm thinking that's fanfiction. I wouldn't trust any "leaks" yet. They haven't even started filming yet. Most rumors are imaginations running wild right now.
     
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    Not really. I illustrated how it can be done, but I don't think they're going to do it. It would take a big set of brass ones to end this with the Dark Side winning out. After TLJ, Disney may be looking for a happy ending to the trilogy, and that isn't conducive to really continuing the story. And pretty much the only happy ending to be had would be those two crazy kids gettin' together to knock boots and make the next generation of Jedi. I'm sure it would please someone.

    Exactly why such a character tends to get torn down to the rivets.

    So they can become relatable and someone to root for, before finally overcoming their adversity and winning out to become the Big Hero.

    True that. But people in production do know...

    Production leaks. True or not? No idea... but the clear indication is they're going with Reylo, which at this point is the easiest(and laziest) way to end the story.

    But the script has been completed and read, by multiple people who have to sign off on it and start putting the things in place needed to make it. And it only takes one.
     
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    TLJ offered a lot of surprises, I will not deny that, but I'm on board with most of the decisions made. JJ planted the seed of Reylo and I must admit I was pleasantly surprised RJ had the sensitivity to spot the potential in the interrogation scene in TFA and make something interesting with it. The treatment of Luke as a fallen hero was excellent and the reveal of Rey's parents as unknown was particularly elegant.

    I don't think the Skywalkers have to end in episode ix or in future trilogies, or the conflict between dark and light. The connection to Luke, Vader and Dath Vader will always give these stories a sense of history. The sense of dynasty and the force are important in SW. It's a point of reference. That doesn't mean, however, that all heroes, force users or main parts need to be Skywalkers. It is nice that the PT is introducing new people with a say on the destiny of the galaxy.
     
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    A lot of fuss being made over a pair of dice recently. That's all I have to say about it.
     
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    There aren't any credible production leaks that I'm aware of so far. I don't expect there to much much leaked this time around. TFA turned into a leakfest because of the Ford injury. I suspect JJ will be on major lockdown after that.

    I got the sense from TLJ and that final show of Rey/Kylo that Rey was "closing the door" on Ben.

    Really the perfect way to end this would to introduce a new villain. Ben Solo could be redeemed attempting to save Rey. Ben Solo leaving toward the unknown regions unable to rejoin the Jedi order and leaving Rey to rebuild it would be kind of cool and leave room for future films.
     
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    Oh, those dice. Whodathunk that one insignificant line of continuity between the ST and Anthology would be in a prop acknowledged exactly zero times during the OT (unless I'm mistaken??). The Kasdans and Johnson have really placed emphasis on it, and I wouldn't be shocked if JJ did something with them. When you think about it, it's kind of crazy how a pair of dice has managed to slip within our collective unconscious, to the point that when they became a symbolic thing, we just kind of shrugged and bought it and said, "oh yeah, I guess those have been there this whole time." I mean they only dangled there during Episode IV, and given that Kasdan rhetconned the EU origins, there's no reason for them to matter at all for the audience. But since they've become important, my brain has gone into full Mandela Effect mode and cannot unsee them not being there. Power of suggestion, much?
     
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    They really don't need to introduce a new character by the ending of 9, like some sorta Thanos setup (refer to ending of Avengers and 2).
     
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    The dice are her parents is what i am hearing.
     
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    Lando makes the most sense with Leia kind of out of the picture.
     
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