The Official Teaser trailer thread.

I'm going with when Luke died, the Jedi died with him! Now If there was a prophecy that the chosen one would bring balance to the force, and it was a Skywalker, then calling the new line of force defenders Skywalkers works. They bring balance to the force by embracing not all but some of each aspects of the light and darkside. Furthermore, That was a Plagueis/Sidious plan right? He told Anakin such in ep.III. about learning all aspects of the force not just the dogmatic aspects. So hearing Sidious' laugh at the end of the trailer might point to that this was his ultimate plan or a plan stolen from his master Plagueis? Hard to believe Sidious wanted anything short of galactic control, so the struggle to me is when having a forced balanced army ,who do they serve? What agenda do they have in a non jedi vs sith environment. So many questions? Can't wait to wrap this saga up! Bals out!

 

SWNN just wrote a fantastic article about this subject that covers everything. Yes, there's a plan of some kind. It's completely consistent with all the quotes.

The TLJ script basically finished when TFA was released. Heck they filmed the Skellig Michael stuff a few months before TFA was released. That's not speculation.

Here's the timeline:

• January 9, 2013 - The first visual meeting about new Star Wars movies
• May 16, 2014 - The Force Awakens begins filming
• May 27, 2014 - Rogue One director Gareth Edwards’ first day at Lucasfilm
• July 2, 2014 - Rian Johnson’s first day at Lucasfilm
• August 2014 - The basic story for The Last Jedi is in place
• November 12, 2014 - A production office for The Last Jedi opens in Burbank, CA
• March 4, 2015 - The first draft of The Last Jedi is completed.
• April 20, 2015 - Rian Johnson and his team present the film and early work to Disney executives.
• July 29, 2015 - The second draft of The Last Jedi is submitted.
• August 3, 2015 - Rogue One starts filming.
• September 15-17, 2015 - Johnson and his crew capture the first footage for The Last Jedi on Skellig Michael in Ireland. This “preshoot” was to get outdoor shots before the weather changed.
  
• December 11, 2015 - A third draft of The Last Jedi is complete.
• December 18, 2015 - The Force Awakens opens in theaters.
• February 1, 2016 - The first draft of the shooting script for The Last Jedi is completed.
• February 11, 2016 - The Last Jedi begins principal photography.
• July 29, 2016 - The Last Jedi finishes filming.

 

A whitewash-article in my opinion.

 

I'm not arguing about the general plan thing...I'm sure they had a general plan. The didn't end up filming Days of Thunder II. What I'm commenting on is this idea that TLJ was written before they knew what was happening in TFA....BS. Who cares if they FILMED before the theatrical release? What is the relevance? RJ, new JJ's story and severly limited what JJ can do in TRoS.

PLUS....how the hell is it a good argument for anything positive for RJ that he wrote it before he knew what was happening before his movie? It's a stupid argument.

ULTIMATELY, as it has been said NUMEROUS times. May the Force be with JJ on writing an EPIC finish to this saga. There is a reason why he was brought back and why they didn't just hire RJ to do EpIX.

 

There is absolutely nothing in that article which is consistent with the half dozen or so Rian Johnson quotes I have provided elsewhere (and not a single one of my quotes appears in the editorial you linked). You can choose to believe whatever you want but to call an article stating there was a plan is "consistent" with quotes directly stating there was no plan is a logical fallacy. For my part, I choose to believe the words of Rian Johnson himself over some anonymous internet writer.

I am done speaking on this matter in this thread because I am extremely happy that the dark days are behind us. E9 is quite clearly going to be consistent with E7. The shattered pieces of the sequel trilogy are being reforged.

 

Maybe DailyPlunge, who consider TLJ to be the best SW-movie ever, is claiming that Rian Johnson is a liar?

 

I don't think anyone is saying that happened. When RJ started writing TLJ the script for TFA was done. He knew the story.

Rian Johnson pitched a story to Disney and that story was approved. It was approved because it fit their vision of the story. It was approved because he discussed things with JJ. He had freedom to do what he wanted. Lucasfilm has fired or removed several directors already so this idea that RJ was doing his own thing without any input from Lucasfilm is comical. He's a good company man. That's why they're bringing him back.

 

So explain to me the relevance of TLJ being written before the theatrical release of TFA and this confusing timeline that includes Rogue One info just to confuse the matter and defend TLJ?

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We will see....I bet he vaporizes into obscurity, going off to "focus on his other projects." you are welcome to save that somewhere and throw it in my face if I'm wrong. Is he at Celebration?

 

We're way off topic here, but if you go back and read the last two pages it might help with your confusion. @Dark Toilet stated the TLJ "script was already done when they were finishing up filming for TFA." This is true. @Mr Hux said "it wasn't." I posted the timeline for those who are curious.

The overall point is there's a general plan which @LadyMusashi mentioned and the SWNN so eloquently explained.

Like I've stated his quotes are consistent with what we know about the entire process that started over six years ago.

Funny you mention this because Kennedy brought up Johnson today.

This early into production a lot of things can change. If they weren't happy with Johnson he wouldn't be involved at all.

 

That is Kylo fighting the KoR after he is redeemed.

 

If you are complaining about TLJ and RJ on a day like this:



This is a great day for our fandom. Let's be thankful that we get another adventure in the galaxy far, far away and leave the negativity behind.

May the Force be with us.

 

My point is that "script was already done when they were finishing up filming for TFA." is thrown out to argue that RJ didn't screw up JJ's vision. It's an illusion. It's smoke and mirrors. It doesn't mean anything. The statement, to the casual viewer, implies that he somehow didn't know what JJ was making and therefore not intentionally screwing with it, but it doesn't mean anything.

 

Actually, I do believe they asked RJ but he declined.

 

That is the popular opinion right now. But I don't think it is a KoR or that Kylo is redeemed in this sequence (there is a ST advancing and firing in front of him, it looks like regular First Order stuff).

 

right.....people often turn down the option to write and direct STAR WARS.

 

Here's a wild thought. I initially assumed that Palpatine coming back was simply as a Hologram, because - I mean Palpatine really being back... would be huge. Plus it's a teaser and we know they mislead (a lot).

But what if Palpatine is really back. And what if Kylo rebuilds the mask because Palpatine (the Master of his Grandfather) tells him to because he is going to take him under his wing as his apprentice?

It could happen

 

Can we try to get along here. @Fearghas_Ajax is correct. Rian Johnson was approached to finish the trilogy and declined.

It's such a short clip it's difficult to tell, but it looks a little like the character struck down in the Rey's TFA forceback.

 

Seriously, I would like to stop talking about RJ/TLJ and move on to tRoS and how FRIGGIN' AWESOME it's going to be!!

 

What about the desert planet seeing in the teaser?

Jakku
Tatooine
Jeddha

Or a new one?