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SPOILER The plot leaked?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Mr Hux, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Mr Hux

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    I don’t buy it. The inaccuracy of the TFA script is so bad. Child of Lando? No mention of Kylo Ren and han and leias son (pretty sure that was in the early draft) i mean almost all of that could be picked out of a teaser trailer.

    And this new leak seems even more vague.

    Just read the context part of your post which outlines that these predictions were made before daisy ridley was even cast. If so they are more interesting for sure, that said, if you’ve read a whole 120 page second draft you could give more specifics. This current ‘leak’ for TROS seems so so vague. Like the rey/kylo thing going ‘as you’d imagine.’ Like, thats not the wording of someone who is trying to give out information to an audience and it doesn’t sound like the kind of person who has actually read a script.
     
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    There are some discrepancies but also some similarities and correct claims. Early drafts are early drafts.

    A script can change very quickly and extensively.
     
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    I know. You’d just think that even if it was an early draft it would still have 120 pages (give or take) of information. Some of it is right and accurately so but something feels off about the idea that this guy actually read a script and now that we know so much more about the cast and plot it seems that TROS description is super vague, possibly on purpose. There is no mention of resolution, of how Kylo ren ends of what becomes of Leia or Rey. Its like, it tells us there is a luke message but fail to adress what the threat in the movie is how big the stakes are or how anything is resolved in terms of character and thats the kind of info a script would give.
     
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    Well, maybe the draft doesnt contains much more than Mizzlewump claim it contains.
     
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    Yeah I know, I wasn’t trying to like bash on his theory's but I know a draft of a script is basically full length because otherwise its just a treatment. So it just seems needlessly vague. Also I’m not a big fan of the idea of Luke doing a motivational speech via hologram to the galaxy. That doesn’t feel right to me. Its like watching a speech from martin luther king on youtube might be fantastic and it might change your ideas on certain things but its not going to save the world.
    It just feels wooly this leak. So yeah, while it is nice to think about and I’m glad you shared it I doesn’t cut it for me, I can pretty much guess as much about the film as this guy is telling us just from the teaser. Sounds like wild reckoning to me.
     
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    Sure, it may be BS.
     
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    Its all BS unless it comes from Mike Zeroh
     
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    This is stuff mainly already known and has been stated with mixed in speculation. Then when it all changes and it's not in the movie then he will say again"Well scripts change, it was edited differently" or some other excuse. It's BS.

    Also things that are pretty much easy to guess like. There's a space battle and a show down with Kylo Ren. I mean, no kidding?

    Nothing about Palpatine. Or any other threat, etc
     
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    A rule of thumb: if it's from Reddit, assume it's fake. Also, that's a lot of detail and rather condescending. "There aren't any major twists or canon-breaking canon reveals"? Each movie has had one.
     
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    Well, as soon as I saw the title of the movie, my reaction was that the main thrust of the story might be a quest to restore the Skywalker name and make his legend known again to inspire the rebellion across the galaxy.
    I was initially thinking along the lines of it being more for Kylo Ren's benefit - an attempt by Rey to open his eyes to the truth about Luke and inspire him to turn back from the dark.

    Personally, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if some of this was true, but that's more to do with it jiving with what I was thinking the movie may be about anyway, rather than me vouching for Mizzlewump in any way...
     
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    There is also some stuff that isnt easy to guess. Palpatine and his role in the story is mentioned btw.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 21, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 21, 2019 ---
    Its from 4chan, not Reddit, and the user seemed to have some valid info about TFA in early 2014. The twist, if its a huge one, may have been intentionally left out of the draft we are talking about btw. But sure, it may be fake news, im not denying that.
     
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    Wow just vague enough to be unverifiable whether its true or not (that he has seen the script). If I were a spoiler I'd drop some off the wall detail as proof. This just as well could've been an outline that JJ threw away. Is Mizzkewump the janitor at Lucasfilm?
     
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    Heard about this already. Finding it hard to be excited or disappointed at this stage
     
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    I dont know who he is but he made some statements about TFA in the early 2014 that implies that he actually had read an early version of that films script.
     
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    It's not the same Mizzlewump. The old Mizzlewump predicted fakers would come along later BSing in his name and so used a special unique I.D. code which the new ones - SizzleStump and this new one - don't use the original code.
     
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    Well, I've been following this s**t since the build up to The Phantom Menace.
    If someone says they have "seen the script" they are pretty much guaranteed to be full of crap.
    But then, a lot of people who have been correct about a lot of things regarding upcoming movies have made that claim even the truth has been closer to "I know some people who have seen some things which they have described to me which has enabled me to have a stab a piecing together a rough idea of the basic thrust of the plot."
    So even though I know the actors themselves don't get to see a completed script in a most instances, I know from experience that insiders are able to pieces things together from everything from call sheets and pre-production images to merchandising itineraries.

    This has happened for every Star Wars movie since 1999 to some degree, without fail.

    My point is, no-one is ever going to give some off-the-wall detail as proof they have seen the script - because no-one has seen "the script". Prople are simply bigging themselves up with that ridiculous claim.
    Hell, I recall some of the ROTS leaks gave some of that off-the-wall info (the secret of Jedi ghost trick, details about the formation of the Rebellion) and people still called them out as being inaccurate after the fact. It turns out the source was a transcript of the novelisation, and they had chosen stuff that was coincidentally cut from the finished movie - but such is the nature of SW fans they will ignore the 99% of stuff the leakers got spot on and focus on the stuff that didn't make the finished movie.

    I'd say if the Rise of Skywalker in any way features a plot involving a quest to broadcast Luke's legacy to the greater good, then this leak is completely legit. If it doesn't, then it isn't. Seems specific enough to be more than a lucky guess to me, seeing as how the popular consensus seems to be that the title of the movie refers to either Luke's literal return as a major player, Rey's revealed status as a Skywalker offspring, or Kylo Ren's turn to the light...
     
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    I'll say it's BS. I'm starting to think that these leaks are actually strategic and tactically done because they always seem to lead the reader away from the actual story. When the leaks manage to get something right, it's often some meaningless detail in the grand scheme of things or something that was already generally known, suspected, or hinted at. What are the odds of that?
     
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    The original post was written more than 5 years ago and according to people at 4chan the tripcode generator that was used by Mizzlewump in 2014 has been changed/reset since that year. Im not an expert on tripcodes but i doubt that this kind of things dont change for half a decade.
     
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    The original Mizzlewump posted over a year and half before TFA came out. These new people appear every time there's a trailer or big magazine spread and use that public information to create their 'spoilers'. This happens every time with every big fanboy movie.
     
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