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HUMOR The ReyLo theory is dead!! Long live the Renporer!!

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Jedihopper, Dec 16, 2017.

  1. master_shaitan

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    Ha! So true!
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    I’d hope for better writing than that!
    I don’t even mean it would result in Rey declaring her undying love for Ben! Just that she can’t live a normal life whilst he lives and remains Kylo Ren.
     
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    No pls. Don't.

    If anyone's redeeming Kylo, it's himself. That's the whole point.

    Anakin could help him out, maybe. But it's on him to do the heavy lifting.
     
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    For them it's anything but Rey and Kylo. Heck even Rey and Chewey!
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    I'm making fun of Chris Terio's terrible writing. And how he'd probably do it if it happens. He wrote BvS.
     
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    Because in their heads it would be incest. Though they're not related by blood at all.

    BUT THEY COULD BE KYLO COULD BE LYING EVEN THOUGH IT WAS REY WHO OWNED UP TO HER PAST NOT KYLO BUT SHHH DON'T RAIN ON MY PARADE.
     
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    Chris Terio says Hi! Your wish for better writing has been denied. Please hold...
     
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    Kylo and Rey will fight and then Kylo will whisper...

    m A r T H a

    and then they'll stop fighting eachother and fight the deus ex machina 2.0 instead.
     
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    Kylo wasn't in any healthy position to face his past, he thought killing it was the right way for him to get over it. He does think his mother is dead during TLJ, remember.
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    And then Kylo will turn into superman and die retrieving a maguffin from a pool of shallow water, obviously still being alive. Only to return in weird circumstances in SW Justice League.
     
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    Kylo literally got out of Snoke's mind fudgery five minutes before facing down the dude he thinks tried to kill him. My boy ain't doin so hot.
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    With someone else's jaw and lips.

    [​IMG]
     
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    LOL, the door on that possible romance was absolutely slammed shut. She sorta hinted like it could be a thing, but he was only after one thing and it wasn't gud'luvin. He chose the darkside and to be Supreme Leader over her lol.

    Count them out.
     
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    You're right. This is after all the last movie in the trilogy, there's simply no time for any character growth/ change to happen anymore.

    Nah.

    The Force Bond lives beyond Snoke's death. Luke specifically tells Leia that "no one is truly gone" when she feels like her son is lost

    Ben Solo will be back. He;ll redeem his own damn self.
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    They told us that they were siblings first and then that they were cousins. Next, they told us that they would be enemies forever. We didn't believe them then, we ain't gonna start now. :p
     
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    Yeah. Hoping that with the Snoke satellite system down, Kylo can finally pull his head outta his ass.

    With superman, if you look closely, you can see the moment his soul left his body.
     
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    I still fully believe that Ben will redeem himself. I also still fully believe that the door slamming shut as we saw her do was literally the door shutting on any possible romance. Not only did he reject her, but he doubled down and ordered the Falcon destroyed with her on it, then threatened to kill Luke and destroy here, followed by an attempt to follow through with at least killing Luke.

    He's not interested in love.
     
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    The old Reylo is dead...LONG LIVE THE NEW REYLO...ISH!

    People were saying before TLJ (even me at times) that Reylo "wouldn't happen, or be acknowledged, or even have a hope of being hinted at-Kylo and Rey will have no relationship".

    Well TLJ came out and steamrolled them. We got a force bond, them developing a rapport of genuine emotion (whether romantic or not) and a hint at the end that they still have an arc to pursue in which all their development will play a part (whether as enemies or rivals, it's hinted the bond is still there and Kylo still has his pesky anti dark side compassion for her.)

    So yes I agree that the scenes at the end and Rey's refusal of him doesn't bode well for a romance or connection or anything happening bwteeen them, but JJ may still surprise us, Reylo isn't "dead" until IX has come out and disproven it. Those chanting its death now (not naming any names) were probably the same people who said it'd never happen before TLJ and called it an "abusive relationship", they were wrong with TLJ and they may be wrong again with IX. Let's see.

    Pasted from earlier. Imma paste it when anyone says this.
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    Considering Kylo's emotional state (thinking his mother is dead, latching on to the bond and Rey as a substitute), him lashing out like a child is within his character.

    But oh the horror, Kylo Ren has some HUMANITY!
     
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    a) She rejected him as well.

    b) There's no way he could have known that she was on it. The Falcon comes in long after the fight begins. Besides, it was supposed to represent his hate for his past, not her.

    c) He still thinks Luke tried to kill him.

    d) You should look at his face when he says that he'd destroy her. Zero conviction whatsoever. He goes from spitting mad to unsure in seconds.

    [​IMG]

    Do these look like the faces of enemies to you?
     
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    Great post!

    Kylo is really the only person Kylo gives a damn about by the end of IX. And I think his duel with Luke takes some of the wind out of his sails.

    "Destroy her", really Kylo? More like make a pouty face after her, with a look of "I darn f*cked up and I know it, but I must kill the past and be dark side and stuff because my mother is dead and I have nothing " it makes sense!
     
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    I honestly give a 50% chances.

    It's not something I'm looking for, as you all may now.
    On the contrary, that's why I won't buy a ticket for IX before having read all the plot once the movie is out.

    But I always try to be objective as much as I can.

    And the point is TLJ finale is vague enough in regards of Rey and Kylo.
    But not only that.

    The sequences are those:

    - She closes the Falcon's door and turns her back to Kylo.
    - Inside the Falcon, she looks at Finn taking care of Rose.
    - Only then there's the Poe/Rey meeting.

    The sequence to me sugggests a Finn-Rose romance but it may suggest a
    Poe-Rey romance too.
    The latter is something I would have loved but I think it's too late.
    Even if they'll do that, it will be uncompelling.
    Worst, Rey will be like the puppet of at least 3 guys attentions. One per movie.

    So, it's not that I'm saying that is how is going to be.
    I'm saying it may be, but if so the uncompelling set up it's another missing opportunity of TLJ.

    On the other hand, sure there's enough set up for a Kylo/Rey romance.

    But the problem is, that's hard to foresee how it may go, for one simple reason:
    they don't care about consistency.

    The first two movies of this trilogy works more as stand alone movies that follow one another.
    Consistency is not something they clearly care about.
    This is not a trilogy as we were used to...

    So they'll do whatever they want to.
     
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    He feels just as betrayed by her choice as she does.
     
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    Hey, I know how you feel. I held on to "Rey Skywalker" till I got smacked with the truth. All of the evidence points to reylo lovers seeing the same sort of letdown, but dream on friend. The only thing that Kylo is interested in is justification. She offered the acceptance that it looks like he was seeking and he wanted nothing to do with it.

    I honestly don't know how folks would still want it. Folks joked about it being an abusive relationship before, now there is no doubt that folks are seeking to ship an abusive relationship. "You're nobody. You're nothing." "BLOW THAT PIECE OF JUNK OUT OF THE SKY!" "I'll destroy her, and you, and all of it.". The only way that can be spun into potential for a relationship is for you to be OK with Rey and someone who is 75 levels of violently (murderously violent) unstable and psychotic.

    I don't buy for a second that he didn't know she was on that ship. They have a bond, remember? She showed up in an escape pod from the Falcon. In your image there Kylo looks regretful. Not in a "That was bad, I shouldn't have done that." way, but in a "I can't believe what a failure that I am.". But hey, I know you have your spin regardless of how many rejections and other heavy-handed moments that they show you.

    After TFA it was argued that he was just confused. Well, in TLJ he doubled down on all of it. All for power. He killed his own father because he thought that it would make him stronger and make Snoke happy. He then killed Snoke so that he could BE Snoke, all while rejecting Rey's offer to return. Now at the end, we see her reject him again.

    And it goes without saying that Kylo Ren is murderously psychotic. He's nowhere near fit to be off medication and out of a psych ward, let alone running around with Disney's newest Princess. He can be redeemed and do some good, but there is no way anyone in the galaxy would find that to be any level of safe or healthy relationship after all that has happened.

    You can hope, but you can't honestly claim anything that happened as any kind of evidence for it. That takes a CNN/FOX News level of twisting.
     
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    J J Abrams is the same guy who called Kylo a prince and Rey a princess and suggested that they were going to share something very special in the future. I have hope.
     
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    Rey closing the falcon door was the end of anyone hoping for "reylo". That moment is when we are told "no, Blast you kylo, your evil and i will take you down".

    Rey tried to swing him back to the light, she couldn't, kylo is lost.
     
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